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Gabriel777

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Being a gay pastor is ok? Being born of the Spirit and loving the same sex is ok?
 
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Tri-sexual is slang so it doesn't have any properly defined meaning. It's essentially a buzz word heres a few "definitions"

Trisexual - Attracted to male female and third gender (third gender being transexuals etc...)
Trisexual - Will try anything sexual
Trisexual - Sexually attracted to men, woman and animals.
 
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wolfywolfs

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Tri-sexual is slang so it doesn't have any properly defined meaning. It's essentially a buzz word heres a few "definitions"

Trisexual - Attracted to male female and third gender (third gender being transexuals etc...)
Trisexual - Will try anything sexual
Trisexual - Sexually attracted to men, woman and animals.
and when you mix every single sexual word into a bowl you give birth to ultrasexual and unlock an xbox achievment of 30 gamerscore
 
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hybrexs

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I believe that when god makes people he does chose whether or not he wants them to be gay (scientists have proved it when your born, i dont believe they know everything not saying they dont know anything) , yes it is very sad for some but god choses it as a test for them if they chose god first or there own desires because he loves them so much he really wants to see what they'd do, but people can choice whether or not they want to carry out with there sexual desires, if you are as a gay couple theres no way you'll make it to heaven its like constantly sinning, but if you ask god for help it will go a long way. But yes i think people treat gay people way to bad but you have to be there friend but you cannot support the in anyway, but being with someone isnt everything in the end everything will point to the father, hell is much worse then being treated badly by anyone on earth, Yes it may seem very unfair to gay people but heaven is allworth it to be with the father. the fathers ways mey seem sometimes strange at times but being with Jesus is all worth it in the end. just like has asked these people to pick up rocks thatll turn into diamonds in the end yay.

Sryy for the typos

And god bless you all :)
 

WordGaurdian

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Hi there
I am not going to tell you homosexualism is correct.
I am not even going to tell you that it is the easy way out.

Every person has some sort of sin which is harder for them to let go off. For some it is pornography, for other swearing, for others lieing, for others being homosexual. And just as you wouldn't normally condemn your friends if they told a lie(not that you agree with them or even accept the lie) but you do accept them as people and friends. Just so, you cannot condemn a homosexual. He/She must understand that their sin is wrong and that it is sin. But that does not make them, suddenly Holy and now they are no longer going to go into that sin. For some people. They have a thought about it at there teenage years. Knew it was wrong and simply rejected the notion. Others don't get tempted by that at all, but don't worry we get tempted.

So first thing you will learn in phsychology is you cannot change a mistake if you do not acknowledge its existence. Which is exactly what the devil is playing at. He wants everybody to accept that homosexuality is not a sin. You must not accept it. However, Jesus went and sat between what you would call today the hustlers and prostitutes and tax collectors and murderers and of course common folk. When asked by the phasisees why, He simply replied: Those that are not sick don't need a doctor, but those that are sick does. Jesus didn't reject the people because of their sin. He didn't agree with sin, in fact I do believe God hates sin. However, He never broke the bended reed.

I had a friend in one of my cell groups that was gay. He never told me, because he knew me. Or thought he did. You see the devil will tell you all kinds of nonsense. He was afraid what I might do (he thought I wouldn't be his friend no more and kick him out of the group). When he finally got the courage to tell me a few years later. I didn't kick him away. But I clearly stated to him that he knows that if he told me that, it means he is actually asking for help to overcome it. He agreed. That doesn't mean he didn't like what he was doing. He was a Christian and went out and told people about Christ and brought a lot of people to Christ while he was gay. However, in his heart he knew the truth. So when he came to me, I knew he asked for help. You see, he didn't know how to beat it. He didn't know how to get cleansed. He did not know how at that time to rid himself of his desire. However, because we were in agreement before God, God's Holy Spirit led us and showed us how to clean him, and to make a long story short. Today he has a wife to two beautiful children and is a happily married man.

And just like smoking - being gay is addictive. So you are not going to just stop it. But you must ask God for the will and the courage and desire and pray the God opens your eyes to the truth.

I do not think of him today as less because he was gay. I think of him as a conqueror of a very dangerous spirit.

If you know who you are in Christ, you know you have nothing to fear to go sit and talk to them and being their friend. But stay in prayer. For the light will always conquer the darkness and the truth will always reveal itself.

All the best
 

Scotty

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Okay, I'm not going to beat around the bush. One CANNOT be gay and be a Christian. God tells us this in His word:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Also in the same chapter, God tells us in his word to flee from such perverted acts:

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. (19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

One is brainwashed by the world when they say one can be gay and also be a Christian. One cannot live in sin and live under grace. God despises homosexuality.
 
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Okay, I'm not going to beat around the bush. One CANNOT be gay and be a Christian.
No, this is completely wrong. You don't get to say who is and who is not a Christian.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Definition of effeminate
–adjective | (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.

So are you saying that men who have soft or delicate traits cannot be Christians? See how ridiculous this is? People can be Christians regardless of whatever sins you believe they've committed. The only requirement to be a Christian is in Jesus, no one is disqualified. Please start showing the love and acceptance of Jesus instead of telling people they cannot be a Christian for whatever reason. :(
 

Scotty

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No, this is completely wrong. You don't get to say who is and who is not a Christian.

Definition of effeminate
–adjective | (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.

So are you saying that men who have soft or delicate traits cannot be Christians? See how ridiculous this is? People can be Christians regardless of whatever sins you believe they've committed. The only requirement to be a Christian is in Jesus, no one is disqualified. Please start showing the love and acceptance of Jesus instead of telling people they cannot be a Christian for whatever reason. :(
Sorry if I offended you but it's the truth.

Please don't make it about me. I'm not saying anything. It's all in God's word.
 

Scotty

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I'm adding this in another post since it's already past the edit time limit.
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Also, they can call themselves Christians all they want, but beware:
Matthew 7:21-23 - (21) "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. (22) Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' (23) And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Those who does the will of the Father will enter the kingdom of heaven. Not those who call themselves Christians.
 
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peris1989

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Being gay is not justifiable but wrong. This happened when God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19: 1-29. This should be an example because everyone was engaging with each other.
It shows that God created human beings and supported the relationship between man and woman
Gayism can be attributed to certain factors such as the television, influence from peers and also personal experiences. Jesus died for us for a reason and that is why we repent all our sins through Jesus. We should pray so that people can change and rely on the word of God and not themselves since they are doing what seems right to them and not right to God. People should stop believing in what feel right to them but should believe in God for guidance.
 

Crypto

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I think many Christians lack compassion to the homosexual community. Even though homosexuality isn't right, the people need love. Love without truth is too soft and truth without love is too hard.
 
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tif

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No, this is completely wrong. You don't get to say who is and who is not a Christian.

Definition of effeminate
–adjective | (of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.

So are you saying that men who have soft or delicate traits cannot be Christians? See how ridiculous this is? People can be Christians regardless of whatever sins you believe they've committed. The only requirement to be a Christian is in Jesus, no one is disqualified. Please start showing the love and acceptance of Jesus instead of telling people they cannot be a Christian for whatever reason. :(

First, no, we don't get to say who's a Christian and who is. God does. And in His word, He's laid out guidelines. We are supposed to (within the body of Christ) be accountable one to another. (Matthew 18:15-17, 1 Corinthians 6:1-8, Ephesians 4:25, Ephesians 4:1-32, 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, James 5:16, Colossians 3:16, etc)


At least if you are going to cite definitions, Laylie, it should be in the original language. You know, there's this funny story about a pepsi slogan... snopes.com: Pepsi Brings Back Ancestors

At any rate:

effeminate, μαλακός malakos

1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaph. in a bad sense
a) effeminate​
1) of a catamite
2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
4) of a male prostitute​


abusers of themselves with mankind, ἀρσενοκοίτης arsenokoitēs

1) one who lies with a male as with a female, sodomite, homosexual



And, as for saying belief in Jesus Christ is the only requirement for salvation, you are flat-out wrong, according to the bible. (I'm going to cite the NLT, because it's easier to understand in some cases)

James 2:19: New Living Translation (©2007)
"You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror."


There are many, many resources on faith vs. works, requirements for salvation, etc. I won't beat the horse again.
 
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christileigh

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If what you want to know is if it is against God's will to act on homosexual feelings, then yes it is. The Bible clearly states this. We see some of this in Romans 1:27. However, to BE a homosexual and to HAVE homosexual urges is not a sin. The sin is whether or not you choose to give in to your desires.

I am not gay, but I do struggle with my own temptations. I am tested, and sometimes (okay.. almost often..) I fail. If you believe that God's word is perfect, then you cannot ignore the fact that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman. Therefore, it is the decision of the homosexual whether or not they will put action to their desires.

I hate when people look at homosexuality and blow it up above anything else. Everyone is a sinner and we all struggle with our own temptations. It is for the homosexual and their personal relationship with God to work through how to overcome temptation and to live serving Him instead of themselves.

I'm no expert but I've also put some thought to this, so I hope I've helped :)
 
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But what about someone who sincerely repents of homosexuality andsubmits to and does the will of God, then they would be a "gay christian" which gay also means happy.
 
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beckyz

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It's such a difficult subject, especially in today's world. First of all, I do believe that there are gay Christians. They struggle with a sin. Who are you to judge whether or not they are saved or not. You can judge they are in sin. Second, I believe that people can be born gay (though I think most gays are not born that way). But then again, people are born with bad tempers, a propensity towards addiction, overeating. Being born does not make something right. That's like saying someone with a bad temper can just say, "Oh sorry I threw that plate at you, I was born with a bad temper so it's okay." No, it's not okay.

It's complicated, but I'm not the one who decides who is saved or not, that's God's job. But I can say emphatically that it is a sin.
 
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Lad

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wow theres alot of hate on here. My opinion is this: I try my hardest not to judge people, I leave it up to God. But i think its very clear from the various verses throughout the Bible that homosexuality is a sin, and is one of the most hated sins by God. However God can heal people of it, and even if not healed, if you dont act on it but lead a holy life then I believe you are saved.
 
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tif

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wow theres alot of hate on here. My opinion is this: I try my hardest not to judge people, I leave it up to God. But i think its very clear from the various verses throughout the Bible that homosexuality is a sin, and is one of the most hated sins by God. However God can heal people of it, and even if not healed, if you dont act on it but lead a holy life then I believe you are saved.
Lad: I don't believe it's my place as a Christian to judge nonChristians. However, within the body of Christ, we have an obligation to each other in regards to accountability. That said, everything that comes out of my mouth should be kind:

Col. 4:6
New International Version (©1984)
Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.

And Eph. 4:29
New International Version (©1984)
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

Also, there is a vast difference between someone who is "living in sin" and someone who is a sinner. I personally believe it's a matter of the heart, that even people who struggle with sin and fall to temptation can still be saved. We know that God's word says:

1Jhn 5:18
New International Version (©1984)
We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.

But I think a better understanding of the original Greek can be found in:

New Living Translation (©2007)
We know that God's children do not make a practice of sinning, for God's Son holds them securely, and the evil one cannot touch them.

I think this link is REALLY good for a more in-depth look at this passage:

Blue Letter Bible - Commentaries - Chuck Smith - Chuck Smith Sermon Notes

Lad, I am so glad God delivered you from that life. It is a hard road for you, standing up both against the nonChristians who would say you never sinned (or that you betray everyone who is "born" a homosexual), and also against your fellow Christians who would be less than understanding. I really admire your courage and strength, to be that witness to God's healing power and bring understanding to people who have never known that a gay man can change his entire life through Jesus Christ.
 

jandian

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God loves the homosexual, just like he loves the murders and the thieves and the prostitutes and every other type of sinner you can think of. But , if we understand sin (which is a deadly disease) and the fact that it separates us from God, we would know that the power the obliterate sin is through acknowledgment of your state and then repentance of from your state. If you have homosexual tendencies and you are willing to admit it is wrong and seek help from God; that reflects a completely different heart from one who thinks its his/her right to be a homosexual.

Hope that helps. God bless.