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Viimz

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We are made in God's image and likeness,right?Since that is so...how is it possible that some say that they were born homosexual??God hates the act of homosexuality so...wat is homosexuality a spirit???
 
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As far as I know, no one is born homosexual.
It is a choice that a person makes. People that quote that "they are born homosexual" are just trying to justify their decision of living their homosexual lifestyle.

Genesis 1:27, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
He created Adam and Eve, and NOT Adam and "Steve".

Moreover, same-sex marriage is sinful in the eyes of the Lord.

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10


Love in Christ

Clement :)
 
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Sexuality is not genetic, but gene's do play a part.
Most studies inc Bailey & Zucker's 1995, Blanchard and Klassen (1997), work within a critical (imprinting) period upon which the sexuality of the brain depends, when environmental (that leads to chemical) factors which affect the development and masculanization of the brain occur.

I haven't seen or heard of anyone change as a fully developed adult, acclaimed exceptions appear to hide their actual nature, but I'm not sure on its impossibility.
 
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AnandaHya

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We are made in God's image and likeness,right?Since that is s.o...how is it possible that some say that they were born homosexual??God hates the act of homosexuality so...wat is homosexuality a spirit???
it is the sinful flesh like other lust in this world, we are born again in the SPIRIT of God. which is the Holy Spirit and the Divine Comforter.

Galatians 5

Walking in the Spirit


16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another


YouTube - I Will Lift My Eyes - Bebo Norman (with lyrics)
 
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Homosexuality is not a sin.. it becomes a sin when more than two men r involved. thats also a sing for straight sex isnt it?? Homosexuality isnt genetic and God makes everything perfect?? then what r eunuchs? Who r born that way? or Hermaphrodites? In genesis God created man and woman.. cus it was needed. But He didn need to send Jesus if adam and eve didn bite the apple. God sent Jesus then.. So God did a lot of things cus of the choices we made. World is not black and white.. It has a bit of gray too.. :)
In 1st corinthians Mr clement u referenced a verse that says Men who sleeps with other men. It doesnt say man sleeps with man.. does it? It involved a gang rape.. so those peeps wont go to the kingdom of God.. But if two men married and stayed faithful then I dont see where is the problem? tell me where is the problem??? Im not gay for sure... but I support gay marriages and gay people.. cus God made them and he wants them to be saved.
 
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JimM1228

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see other thread.... Gay Christian.
 
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In 1st corinthians Mr clement u referenced a verse that says Men who sleeps with other men. It doesnt say man sleeps with man.. does it? It involved a gang rape.. so those peeps wont go to the kingdom of God.. But if two men married and stayed faithful then I dont see where is the problem? tell me where is the problem??? Im not gay for sure... but I support gay marriages and gay people.. cus God made them and he wants them to be saved.
You must not have sexual relations with a man as you would a woman. That is a hateful sin.
- Leviticus 18:22 (New Century Version)

Is that clear enough?
 
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yes. In leviticus many laws were written. But who were to abide by those laws? Isralites. Not Christians.
 
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Jimmy47

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I don't think people are BORN homosexual. It just depends on the environment you're brought up in and the type of person you are. Personally i don't see a problem in being gay and being a christian and i think christians should be a lot more tolerant of it. Because after all gay christians love god just as much as straight christians!
 
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AnandaHya

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Homosexuality is not a sin.. it becomes a sin when more than two men r involved. thats also a sing for straight sex isnt it?? Homosexuality isnt genetic and God makes everything perfect?? then what r eunuchs? Who r born that way? or Hermaphrodites? In genesis God created man and woman.. cus it was needed. But He didn need to send Jesus if adam and eve didn bite the apple. God sent Jesus then.. So God did a lot of things cus of the choices we made. World is not black and white.. It has a bit of gray too.. :)
In 1st corinthians Mr clement u referenced a verse that says Men who sleeps with other men. It doesnt say man sleeps with man.. does it? It involved a gang rape.. so those peeps wont go to the kingdom of God.. But if two men married and stayed faithful then I dont see where is the problem? tell me where is the problem??? Im not gay for sure... but I support gay marriages and gay people.. cus God made them and he wants them to be saved.
you can love the sinner and not the sin. tolerance is accepting the person sins and all but still we must set boundaries. we tell people they are not to practice adultery, lie, magic, etc. Well the Bible includes homosexuality as a sin. just because people do it doesn't make it right. we must strive to be closer to the image God meant for us to be. You still love other people with their imperfection, you love and forgive yourself too, but you try to NOT sin again. to say its not a sin will never lead to confession and repentance and they will continue to live in sin and die make God mad.

its a hard concept I struggled with it myself. I didn't want to condemn anyone or speak against them. but we do not speak against the person, we speak against the sin. and we do not speak as humans but as the mouthpieces of God for it is sinful before GOD's Eyes.

Be careful, keep your shield of faith intact, for we do fight against seen forces but those spiritual forces of darkness. keep your armor on.

YouTube - God's love letter
 
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Viimz

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you can love the sinner and not the sin. tolerance is accepting the person sins and all but still we must set boundaries. we tell people they are not to practice adultery, lie, magic, etc. Well the Bible includes homosexuality as a sin. just because people do it doesn't make it right. we must strive to be closer to the image God meant for us to be. You still love other people with their imperfection, you love and forgive yourself too, but you try to NOT sin again. to say its not a sin will never lead to confession and repentance and they will continue to live in sin and die make God mad.

its a hard concept I struggled with it myself. I didn't want to condemn anyone or speak against them. but we do not speak against the person, we speak against the sin. and we do not speak as humans but as the mouthpieces of God for it is sinful before GOD's Eyes.

Be careful, keep your shield of faith intact, for we do fight against seen forces but those spiritual forces of darkness. keep your armor on.

YouTube - God's love letter
Romans12v2 lets not comform to th world patterns but b transformed by th renewal of our minds.Romans1v26-28...We may say all we want,justify and argue but th word of God is clear!!Sin is bad,poisonous and that wont change!!Th devil is a deceitful liar who wil do everything 2giv us FACTS(False Evidnc Appearing Real).We need to read th word with understandn!Gosh dear Lord help us!
 
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Breelynn

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If you think about it babies are born without sin and being gay is a sin so therefore it's not possible :)
 
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JimM1228

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If you think about it babies are born without sin and being gay is a sin so therefore it's not possible :)
although children are born innocent meaning they do not know righr from wrong they are still born in sin. this does not make them bad babies nor if they die will they be sent to hell. BUT all are born sinners and all most turn to Christ to be washed clean and accept His Glory.
 
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Ramon

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I don't think people are BORN homosexual. It just depends on the environment you're brought up in and the type of person you are. Personally i don't see a problem in being gay and being a christian and i think christians should be a lot more tolerant of it. Because after all gay christians love god just as much as straight christians!
Our ideas will not save us. The words of Jesus will judge us. Why do you say gay Christians, as if anyone who is homosexual loves God. No one who loves sin can love God. Now, this is not for homosexuals only but for anyone who does sin, which God forbid. I will not tolerate any sin, neither will God. You are surely blinded by your own lusts, and this is no work of God, it is a work of Satan. If you follow Jesus you will not sin, but if you don't you will end up in hell. It is as strict and simple as that. And so will liars and thieves, and anyone else who sins against the Lord.

If you refuse to consider God he might give you over to your lusts. And this is how it goes:

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
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perdonato

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There is a big difference between tolerance and love. We are called to love.
 
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Breelynn

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Jesus was born a baby and he was without sin so ... no babies are not born in sin.

And Jesus tells us to become like little children so why would he tell us to become like them if they were born in sin???
 
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Ramon

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Jesus was born a baby and he was without sin so ... no babies are not born in sin.

And Jesus tells us to become like little children so why would he tell us to become like them if they were born in sin???
EVERYONE was born in sin and shaped in iniquity. But sin is not imputed where there is no law, but people, without the law show the law written on their hearts, so there is no excuse. But God is not so harsh that he will send a child to hell for being born in sin. God knows well enough, so that every soul is recompensed justly.
 
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Breelynn

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No where in the bible does it say children are sinners. I can not agree with you. Jesus would not tell us to be like the little children if they were sinners or born in sin. he died to wash away our sins so why would he live and tell us to be what he gave up his life for?
 
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Duggar

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I believe that no one is born a homosexual. I believe that homosexuality is an evil Spirit (just like any other sin). I believe that it is of the Devil and not of God. I believe that it is sinful. I believe that Christians should LOVE the sinner, but HATE the sin. (Just like Christ does). Love the sinner doesn't mean be accepting of the sin and all that goes along with it...to love them is realizing that we are all sinners no sin is greater than another. All sin is the same in the eyes of God, just with different consequences. To love them is to realize that while we were still sinners, Christ dies for us. (Romans 5:8) To love them is to realize that God doesn't play favorites and He loves us all equally. To hate the sin...to hate the sin simply means what it says. To hate the sin, because it is evil, wicked and wrong (just like all sins). Christians must love what God loves (Whatever is pure, lovely, just etc. etc.) and hate what he hates.