Is being gay a sin?

[Depleted]

Nope and neither does a baby boy look at a girl and think that (and vice versa). Those things are discovered later One thing that I'm not understanding in the whole thing is this: How can someone turn gay/become gay or however you want to say it when they don't want it. That makes zero sense...

I know a man who was raped when he was 18 months old. He has had sexual thoughts ever since. Does it make more sense now?

 

[blue_ladybug]

That don't mean that he WANTS to be having those thoughts..

 

[Depleted]

Yeraza, The reason people come to believe that being gay is natural is because, well think of two consenting samesex people loving each other,.. and if you don't take the literal translations of the bible super literally, aand if you don't think about the need that all relationships should be able to procreate (because lets face it, we have more people than resources as it is, and many poor hetero couples can't anyway)... then it makes perfect sense that we're all humans - and two consenting samesex adults being together seems pretty harmless.
I think that the mentality that makes someone develop a fetish may be innate, addiction for example clearly runs in families,. but the specific object, costume, action or body part they fetishize is learned. Think about OCD. It is an innate characteristic, but that does not mean "washing your hands repeatedly" is an innate characteristic; it is just one way OCD can manifest.

How did sex just become "loving" in that scenario?

 

[Depleted]

We all actually do have the capacity to kill someone. Each and every single one of us has the capacity to be another Hitler or Saddam. And I refer back to the human mind again. It's a complex thing that no one can completely understand. That same mind can have people be mentally unstable, and go on killing sprees. Ever hear ofnot guilty by reason of insanity? Mental illness is a real thing and there was a reason why homosexuality was classified as such thing.

I don't. I honestly don't have the capacity to kill someone. Hurt them. Hurt them seriously, but not kill.

Maybe we ought to stop thinking of stuff that everyone is like, particularly on a subject of something most people aren't like.

 

[Depleted]

That don't mean that he WANTS to be having those thoughts..

And the connection? Do you want the thoughts of a sinner? Because we were born that way, so it's really hard to imagine what it would be like without those thoughts. Kind of like wondering what life would be like without thinking of chocolate. lol

 

[jsr1221]

I don't. I honestly don't have the capacity to kill someone. Hurt them. Hurt them seriously, but not kill.

Maybe we ought to stop thinking of stuff that everyone is like, particularly on a subject of something most people aren't like.

I've thought the same thing. But there's something inside of us, inside our minds, that allows us to become that evil. Like I've said before the mind is a complex thing. And (although it could be unlikely), the gentlest of souls could turn into the most evil one. Now will that happen to you or me or anyone else on here? Probably not. But that doesn't mean there's no chance, cause there still is even the slightest. When our mind becomes corrupted, it's lights out. The Stanford prison experiment comes to mind.

 

[jsr1221]

That don't mean that he WANTS to be having those thoughts..

Paul talked about how he hated doing the things over and over again that he didn't want to do. Wouldn't the same be applied for thinking? If Paul didn't want to do the same mistakes but still did them, why would someone want to think a thought when that person actually doesn't want to? My sponsor in CR is 20 plus years sober of drugs and alcohol yet still has those thoughts. I think it's safe to say he doesn't want to have them, or else he wouldn't be 20 plus years sober.

 

[Depleted]

I've thought the same thing. But there's something inside of us, inside our minds, that allows us to become that evil. Like I've said before the mind is a complex thing. And (although it could be unlikely), the gentlest of souls could turn into the most evil one. Now will that happen to you or me or anyone else on here? Probably not. But that doesn't mean there's no chance, cause there still is even the slightest. When our mind becomes corrupted, it's lights out. The Stanford prison experiment comes to mind.

I was gang raped and still couldn't get to the place of wanting to kill the rapists. I physically tried to stop them from ever being able to rape anyone else again, (when I tell people to knee a guy, I mean it literally), but couldn't kill. Even in my mind-crazed mental versions of revenge afterward, I still couldn't kill them. (Again -- mutilate without killing.)

We are all corrupt. We're just differently corrupt. I know I am weird for knowing I literally cannot kill someone, even to protect myself, but it helps in another way. I am the minority for thinking like this, just as homosexuals are the minority for thinking the way they do. God can save -- even out of the minority. And he wills to change those of us he saves, in a good way.

 

[Silverwings]

I think the problem here is the reference to being gay, kinda like the AA slogan, once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic, hogwash!!! They are still carrying the title but not partaking of the sin, and the answer to that is Yes, of course they can be saved, they just need to shed the wording and also the stigma, They are now babes in Christ, and need ot be treated as such.

 

[Silverwings]

Absolutely!!

 

[Silverwings]

or even an holy urge such as being gay?

Being gay is definately NOT A HOLY URGE!! It is unholy and impure.