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Masturbation... There is a book titled. Sex isnt the problem, Lust is. and the author states in there that masturbation is of self gratification and that in itself is wrong. That it is not pure and we should keep purtity before God. I have also read in a book by David K. Bernard, and he stated if you can do it with no lust than there is no sin... However how many people can masterbate and not have a lustful thought.
T
It is possible.
And I dont get how the whole idea of self gratification is bad that is like saying anything that GRATIFIES YOURSELF is a sin. So yes taking care of children is now a sin? Singing is now a sin? Loving god is a sin?
Because all of those things
Dictionary.com-
1.
the state of being gratified; great satisfaction.
2. something that gratifies; source of pleasure or satisfaction.
3. the act of gratifying.
4. Archaic . a reward, recompense, or gratuity.
So on those terms if serving the lord is a sourace of pleasure and satisfaction for you. It is a sin. I am pretty sure that is false.
And I dont get how the whole idea of self gratification is bad that is like saying anything that GRATIFIES YOURSELF is a sin. So yes taking care of children is now a sin? Singing is now a sin? Loving god is a sin?
Because all of those things
Dictionary.com-
1.
the state of being gratified; great satisfaction.
2. something that gratifies; source of pleasure or satisfaction.
3. the act of gratifying.
4. Archaic . a reward, recompense, or gratuity.
So on those terms if serving the lord is a sourace of pleasure and satisfaction for you. It is a sin. I am pretty sure that is false.
T
I just dont understand that how something that pleases onself is against the bible.
If it purifies you that gives it a spiritual purpose (ie purifies daily thoughts and etc.) and isnt spoken of in the bible then there should be no harm.
(Even though it is spoken of and the way I interpret scripture it is the lust that is wrong not the act.)
If it purifies you that gives it a spiritual purpose (ie purifies daily thoughts and etc.) and isnt spoken of in the bible then there should be no harm.
(Even though it is spoken of and the way I interpret scripture it is the lust that is wrong not the act.)
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Whilst I believe that masturbation is wrong, I agree with you that our social dispositions are not an accurate litmus test for the morality of our actions. Heck, I'd hate to be caught sleeping when our Lord returns; seriously, I despise the world and everyone in it when I wake up. I'd probably miss the whole d*mn thing since I'd roll over and go back to sleep, urging Jesus to give me another 5 minutes.
Considering the general belief is God sees everything anyways, I'd probably just not be embarrassed considering making love to my spouse is probably not the worst or most disgusting thing he's seen me do. I'd probably complain that he arrived at a bad time though...
Knowing my luck it would happen 5 minutes before my alarm for work goes off and I'd be like, "Just couldn't let me sleep in could you? Had to sweep me up into the clouds this very second did ya?" I think even God knows not to mess with me when I first wake up... heck my own roommates learned it very quickly.
Knowing my luck it would happen 5 minutes before my alarm for work goes off and I'd be like, "Just couldn't let me sleep in could you? Had to sweep me up into the clouds this very second did ya?" I think even God knows not to mess with me when I first wake up... heck my own roommates learned it very quickly.
Never said they were sins but I'm pretty sure they're all things that you don't want people walking in on, let alone a holy deity that you worship and already believe is far more worthy than you. I know I'd sure be embarrassed if Jesus returned and walked right in when my IBS flares up. Using what you'd be embarrassed to be seen doing isn't really an effective way to determine what is and isn't moral, which was my point.