women as church leaders and teachers
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Oh I agree, no ones fault but himself. What I was saying is that in his distorted mind he felt that there was no way he could live with his new woman and still hold his job at JM's. So he killed. This community I live in was really shook up by it. His brother doesn't even talk about it.
IMO I honestly believe that work place and personal life shouldn't intertwine. but that's just me.
IMO I honestly believe that work place and personal life shouldn't intertwine. but that's just me.
G
Chris Coleman killed his kids and wife because of Joyce Meyers' ministry? No, that's crazy to think that. Christ Coleman killed his wife and kids because he fell in love with a woman and was a PSYCHO that remained undiagnosed until it was too late 
Blaming Christ Coleman's work with his personal choice is just wrong.
I know, I know, you got me on 'ignore,' good. I don't want to communicate with anyone who is so self-serving themselves in believing a God's chosen helper of His is doing wrong even though, as I pointed out (By Meyers' ministry) statement of faith that the VERY things said were not being done (Jesus as their Lord for their foundation and Holy Spirit 'power') WERE being done, ARE being done, and, will continue TO BE done in Joyce Meyers' great ministry SERVING the Lord.
Who made you, God, jinxed? Rhetorical. You don't need to answer, YOU are not God
Exactly. In a perfect ministry, I think, a wife is RIGHT THERE next to the husband, encouraging him, helping him with his ministry, OCCASSIONALLY even, SPEAKING to the whole congregation of the church that that pastor is shepherd of His flock. Remember, the 'shepherd' guides, the flock's well-doing does NOT belong to the shepherd, although the shepherd SHOULD be tethered to their well-being wanting to know Him and help His flock that he guides STAY on the right path, that shepherd (pastor of a church) has NO authority over that church. None. ALL power is to Lord God Christ Almighty
Blaming Christ Coleman's work with his personal choice is just wrong.
I know, I know, you got me on 'ignore,' good. I don't want to communicate with anyone who is so self-serving themselves in believing a God's chosen helper of His is doing wrong even though, as I pointed out (By Meyers' ministry) statement of faith that the VERY things said were not being done (Jesus as their Lord for their foundation and Holy Spirit 'power') WERE being done, ARE being done, and, will continue TO BE done in Joyce Meyers' great ministry SERVING the Lord.
Who made you, God, jinxed? Rhetorical. You don't need to answer, YOU are not God
Exactly. In a perfect ministry, I think, a wife is RIGHT THERE next to the husband, encouraging him, helping him with his ministry, OCCASSIONALLY even, SPEAKING to the whole congregation of the church that that pastor is shepherd of His flock. Remember, the 'shepherd' guides, the flock's well-doing does NOT belong to the shepherd, although the shepherd SHOULD be tethered to their well-being wanting to know Him and help His flock that he guides STAY on the right path, that shepherd (pastor of a church) has NO authority over that church. None. ALL power is to Lord God Christ Almighty
K
I am saying Adam was wise enough to listen to Eve and let her help him when God first introduced the two. Sin probably interfered with this wisdom (it interfered with everything else), and this is part of the reason why a given couple might be having trouble relating now. It could be either spouse's fault.
A
I find it ironic when people turn to scripture to make a point, and the scripture
they turn to kinda argues against the point they are trying to make:
Genesis 3:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
they turn to kinda argues against the point they are trying to make:
Genesis 3:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
K
It does not argue against it. My point is that before the fall, Adam was wise enough to listen to Eve on most things, just not wise enough not to listen on this one. After the fall, he would still not be wise enough not to listen on this one, but he would not be wise enough to listen to her on other things either. Net reduction in wisdom.