women as church leaders and teachers

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Abiding

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Oh just go...go back to the bugger picking thread...troublemaker!:cool:
 
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I have enough love for all the threads LOL
 
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kenisyes

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I hope you aint talking about me cause I was just having fun. LOL
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Actually I was talking about whoever that post applies to. Any woman who could say that for real. Since you were just having fun, I guess i was talking about someone else.
 
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so I'm trying to get this straight in my head here...

since "Jesus" is "in" us, both male AND Female... "WHO" is Jesus going to
Listen to when God commands Him To speak through us?? ""IF" it were true that God would only speak to jesus in a male who will speak through That male ... Wouldn't that show God has favoritism When His world "clearly" states He is not a respecter of persons ?? ( Lie exposed) ...
The truth is .. God is "not" a respecter of persons .. When God is speaking He is speaking to His Son.. , since His Son is alive and well "in us" "He" gets all the rights and glory of speaking through all of us in His complete authority as headship and teacher over all men and women ...
"WHO" told you you have no authority ?? WHO?? God or man??? There is "complete" freedom
In Christ ..
 
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Scripture makes it clear that a woman is not permitted to have authority over a man. That is not taken out of context that is what it says. Women can teach women, but out of respect and honor for authority they are not to teach men. Yes, God has used women to teach men, but only because there were no Godly men willing to be used by God at that time. It is to mans shame when God uses a women to teach Him, because scripture makes it clear that man is the head of woman. It is not meant to be the other way around. Let the word speak for itself.
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God is the same yesterday, as today, as forevermore; He is using women today ALL over this nation, and, other nations, too, as they boldly WILL go, why would things change, they wouldn't. God is using people as He needs them. God, ultimately, does things, His will WILL be done, that's clear, that's a fact but God allows people to 'step up to the plate,' and, there are just going to be times that a man does not do it and, in that case, make NO mistake, God's will WILL be done, and, a women will get in 'the batter's box.' And, she will be under the authority of Christ and she WILL do great behind the pulpit, she will 'hit it out of the park." :)
 
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I don't agree with that. everytime I try and help my hisband with my wonderful wisdom, I end up sticking my foot in my mouth... lol
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that sounds as if their might be a battle for control Sis.
 
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kenisyes said:
I certainly don't know, so I can't contradict you. Communcation in a marriage is much too complex for any outsider to have an opinion any more valid than "is it maybe like this".
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in all marriages there is a battle for control and in this society woman is said to keep her mouth shut and put up with her demanding Husband and in many marriages truth is revealed behind closed doors that the Husband is a lot of times a control freak, never revealing this out to the public, because of what others might think or say and therefore truth is hidden.
When I hear of a great man of God out here in this world, the first thing I want to to do is interview the wife with truth serum and truth be revealed that only God is good as Jesus said during his walk here on earth period
I know been there done that, and it was not good it was decieving and not truthful
And I am not trying to disturb anyones feelings here just speaking what I know to be truth
Anyone can do all kinds of work in helping others and loving others, but the true person is what are they doing behind closed doors that is the true person no matter what one does outside in front out in the public
 
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homwardbound said:
that sounds as if their might be a battle for control Sis.
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uh. nope. I have a beautiful marriage. married to the love of my live who treats me like a queen. I follow him cause he makes it easy, he is a great leader, one who respects my opinion. There is no power struggle. LOL ask before you make an opinion about my marriage.
 
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Abiding said:
Adam...wise before "what?":D
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before the fall, he was 100% dependant on God and today having free choice we can be again but knowing both flesh and Spirit, and choosiing Spirit by the grace of God daily over flesh, thus knowing somehow all our needs will be supplied, and never taking this grace for granted as an excuse for the flesh as many have done or do to this day, for me I have a reverant fear for God who can destroy both body and Soul so I see this and am not neglecting it nor am I working at it, I instead am trusting God and God is doing the performance in my stead by following and listening through the Holy Ghost of prommise
Hebrews 2:3how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
 
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kenisyes said:
I am saying Adam was wise enough to listen to Eve and let her help him when God first introduced the two. Sin probably interfered with this wisdom (it interfered with everything else), and this is part of the reason why a given couple might be having trouble relating now. It could be either spouse's fault.
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it is a battle for control, my way selfish and a lot of times using scripture out of context to excercise the control over another to get another to do things that they knoiw are not right but do them out of fear of God as they have been taught so they do not stand up fortruth and are a lot of times most miserable, seeing the mate being so nice and loving on the outside yet behind close doors a snake to their better half controlling them by the means of fear
 
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jinx said:
uh. nope. I have a beautiful marriage. married to the love of my live who treats me like a queen. I follow him cause he makes it easy, he is a great leader, one who respects my opinion. There is no power struggle. LOL ask before you make an opinion about my marriage.
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And i am so elated for this Jinx, yet sister there is waht I speak of out in this here world today amny abused women as well as men too. I have seen it around me and been involved in helpingothers get out of it whether their marriage restored or not, God called us to freedom and to live in peace, so please Sister say a prayer for all those abused and thanks
 
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uh. nope. I have a beautiful marriage. married to the love of my live who treats me like a queen. I follow him cause he makes it easy, he is a great leader, one who respects my opinion. There is no power struggle. LOL ask before you make an opinion about my marriage.
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I was not making an opinion of your marriage in particular. No sis not at all. I am glad that there is no trouble in your at all
 
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jinx

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The only abuse that man gets is when I don't fix enough for supper.... LOL
 
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homwardbound said:
it is a battle for control, my way selfish and a lot of times using scripture out of context to excercise the control over another to get another to do things that they knoiw are not right but do them out of fear of God as they have been taught so they do not stand up fortruth and are a lot of times most miserable, seeing the mate being so nice and loving on the outside yet behind close doors a snake to their better half controlling them by the means of fear
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You kind of posted this twice in response to me. A lifetime of experience tells me that people usually think that other people do whatever it is that they themselves do.
 
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Who is the leader but Christ, and after that the man, then the woman, that being the way, It is only right that the man be the church leader with Christ as the head, and the women can all labor in the Gospel as well, but not above the men. There is something wrong with the picture of a woman over the authority of a man, if that's not visible, God created the man, then out of the rib of man he made a woman flesh of the man's flesh, bone of the man's bone. Except, the elders are above the children.
 
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danschance

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Unfortunately both men and women have been pressed in this world's mold and accepted the things of this world. I believe women should get equal pay for equal work. Sure it makes sense to the world to allow women to become pastors of a church, but it is not what the bible clearly teaches. Do we just want to have our ears tickled or do we want to stop rebelling against God and do things His way?
 
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kenisyes said:
You kind of posted this twice in response to me. A lifetime of experience tells me that people usually think that other people do whatever it is that they themselves do.
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It is a very common happening to some degree or another,you have never argued, fought,wanted your, nothing is new under the sun (SON)
And no sin is uncommon to man nad battle for control is a big one, wanting our own way
 
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Maranatha-TheLordIsComing said:
Who is the leader but Christ, and after that the man, then the woman, that being the way, It is only right that the man be the church leader with Christ as the head, and the women can all labor in the Gospel as well, but not above the men. There is something wrong with the picture of a woman over the authority of a man, if that's not visible, God created the man, then out of the rib of man he made a woman flesh of the man's flesh, bone of the man's bone. Except, the elders are above the children.
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Ephesians 5:25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Colossians 3:19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

So how do we accomplish, take them by the reins or what? if they do not obey
 
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