Is the Hebrew Roots Movement a cult?

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john832

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This brings up an interesting question. Why does the HRM observe the Lords Supper just once a year at Passover?
Don't they like proclaiming the Gospel?
1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
That particular phrase is used once in the Bible...

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

And Paul says not to do it!
 

john832

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because it prefers the Jewish Passover.
any who deny that are fibbers.
Hmmm, apparently your Bible reads quite differently than mine...

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
 

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That particular phrase is used once in the Bible...

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

And Paul says not to do it!
Paul said that because they were gorging themselves instead of coming to partake of the Supper with discernment. Just once? Once with an apostle makes it God's Word...once is all that is needed.
 

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This brings up an interesting question. Why does the HRM observe the Lords Supper just once a year at Passover?
Don't they like proclaiming the Gospel?
1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
We take bread and juice every Sabbath. Kind of like Kiddush (bringing in the Sabbath) and kind of like the Lord's Supper. Whatever the term, it's meant for us to remember and participate in the covenant of our salvation through Yeshua.

What are the scriptures endorsing "the Lord's Supper" as anything different than just a part of Passover?

Peace,
Matt
 

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We take bread and juice every Sabbath. Kind of like Kiddush (bringing in the Sabbath) and kind of like the Lord's Supper. Whatever the term, it's meant for us to remember and participate in the covenant of our salvation through Yeshua.

What are the scriptures endorsing "the Lord's Supper" as anything different than just a part of Passover?

Peace,
Matt
of course as I said b4 in my opinion your congregation is a hybrid between Messianic and Evangelical.
The Scriptures where Jesus said ''THIS DO'', and what they did was not the same as what was done at Passover.
Luke 22:19 and 1Cor11:24-25
 

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Paul said that because they were gorging themselves instead of coming to partake of the Supper with discernment. Just once? Once with an apostle makes it God's Word...once is all that is needed.
OK, Paul made it God's word one time and he said it is not to eat the Lord's supper. Seems pretty plain to me.
 

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We take bread and juice every Sabbath. Kind of like Kiddush (bringing in the Sabbath) and kind of like the Lord's Supper. Whatever the term, it's meant for us to remember and participate in the covenant of our salvation through Yeshua.

What are the scriptures endorsing "the Lord's Supper" as anything different than just a part of Passover?

Peace,
Matt
There are none...

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

In this passage, Christ calls it the Passover and institutes the New Covenant symbols, the bread and wine. How often should we remember it? How often does the Passover come around?

For that matter, how often do you remember your birthday, anniversary or the date of baptism? Once a year.
 
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We take bread and juice every Sabbath. Kind of like Kiddush (bringing in the Sabbath) and kind of like the Lord's Supper. Whatever the term, it's meant for us to remember and participate in the covenant of our salvation through Yeshua.

What are the scriptures endorsing "the Lord's Supper" as anything different than just a part of Passover?

Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, KJV

Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. KJV

 

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OK, Paul made it God's word one time and he said it is not to eat the Lord's supper. Seems pretty plain to me.
you misread Paul.
go back and read it again.
that's not what he meant.

Jesus said do this as often as you come together.
thank you.
bye now.
 

zone

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There are none...
cough

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying,

This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.



did He say - here is a LAMB? eat it?

did He say anything other than this bread and this WINE (not grape juice - LOL....how anyone can read the Torah and think it was juice is hilarious)



Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,

This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


In this passage, Christ calls it the Passover and institutes the New Covenant symbols, the bread and wine. How often should we remember it? How often does the Passover come around?
1 Corinthians 11:26
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

John 6:53-58
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. ...

Luke 22:19-20
And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:28
Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.

John 6:53
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Matthew 26:26-28
Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Acts 2:42
And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.

John 6:51
I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

Luke 24:30
When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed and broke it and gave it to them.

1 Corinthians 11:27-29
Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.

For that matter, how often do you remember your birthday, anniversary or the date of baptism? Once a year.
Passover, or Pesach (from: פֶּסַח in Hebrew, Yiddish), Tiberian: [pɛsaħ] ( listen), Modern Hebrew: /ˈpesaχ/ Pesah, Pesakh, Yiddish: Peysekh, Paysakh, Paysokh) is an important Biblically-derived Jewish festival. Historically, together with Shavuot ("Pentecost") and Sukkot ("Tabernacles"), Passover is one of the three pilgrimage festivals (Shalosh Regalim) during which the entire population of the kingdom of Judah made a pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem.[4]
 
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Maybe the focus of the instruction to take the bread and the wine "in remembrance" of Jesus shouldn't be on creating a new day to do it on, but instead to do it as Jesus did it. He was celebrating Passover with His disciples. If He wanted to institute a new teaching or instruction of "The Lord's Supper" He would have done it on the 1st day of the week or any other particular day. He didn't. He did it specifically at Passover, and then told His disciples to do the same thing.
 

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you misread Paul.
go back and read it again.
that's not what he meant.

Jesus said do this as often as you come together.
thank you.
bye now.
No, I did not misread Paul, I did not read into what he said an opinion or "wannbe", I simply read what he wrote.
 

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Maybe the focus of the instruction to take the bread and the wine "in remembrance" of Jesus shouldn't be on creating a new day to do it on, but instead to do it as Jesus did it. He was celebrating Passover with His disciples. If He wanted to institute a new teaching or instruction of "The Lord's Supper" He would have done it on the 1st day of the week or any other particular day. He didn't. He did it specifically at Passover, and then told His disciples to do the same thing.
It wouldn't be seen as superceding the Old if it was done on another day.

How many others celebrated Passover by eating bread and then being told it represented the Body of Christ?
How many others celebrated Passover by drinking wine and then being told it represented the Blood of Christ?

Do you see?
 

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cough

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:

Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying,

This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.



did He say - here is a LAMB? eat it?

did He say anything other than this bread and this WINE (not grape juice - LOL....how anyone can read the Torah and think it was juice is hilarious)



Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying,

This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.




1 Corinthians 11:26
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

John 6:53-58
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. ...

Luke 22:19-20
And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:28
Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.

John 6:53
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Matthew 26:26-28
Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Acts 2:42
And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.

John 6:51
I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

Luke 24:30
When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed and broke it and gave it to them.

1 Corinthians 11:27-29
Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.



Passover, or Pesach (from: פֶּסַח in Hebrew, Yiddish), Tiberian: [pɛsaħ] ( listen), Modern Hebrew: /ˈpesaχ/ Pesah, Pesakh, Yiddish: Peysekh, Paysakh, Paysokh) is an important Biblically-derived Jewish festival. Historically, together with Shavuot ("Pentecost") and Sukkot ("Tabernacles"), Passover is one of the three pilgrimage festivals (Shalosh Regalim) during which the entire population of the kingdom of Judah made a pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem.[4]
Wow, big letters and bright colors. Too bad there is no substance. Everything quoted here is about the Passover and nothing about Ishtar.
 

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The Lord Jesus is instituting a New Way.

The old way pointed to Him. He is now the New Way.

There was a Passover that represented, as a form, what the Lord Jesus Christ would do for us. The Lord Jesus Christ is that True Passover.

The first one, that saved the hebrews from the death angel, was merely a shadow of what was to come.


If you can see this you can start to see how "hebrew roots" are the schoolmaster that brings us to Christ. But you don't want to be stuck back there worshipping the shadow. That's cultish and silly. Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth.


1 John 1:1-10
[SUP]1[/SUP]That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;[SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
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Galatians 4:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

John 18:37 (KJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

There is a subtle untruth that is propagated in the religious sect today, that even some ministers are unaware of as they stand behind the pulpit and minister to the congregation. This is that most of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) are not writings in Biblical history of the New Covenant Jesus fulfilled until He said;

John 19:30 (KJV) [SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Even the entire ministry of Jesus was under the Mosaic Law, defining the truth to the individual, when since Mount Sinai, the law was given to the nation of Israel.

Matthew 5:38-40 (KJV)
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
[SUP]39 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

Verse 38 endorses the principle of equity from the beginning. Smiting a person on the cheek was a backhanded move. Turning the other cheek compelled the person to slap the other with an open hand. The back of the hand was a demeaning move to the person being hit, according to Jewish tradition. Slapping a person with the open hand showed the onlookers that the slapper, and the slappe were on the same level. Now relating to verse 40 of Matthew 5, compare that with this scripture.

Deuteronomy 24:12-13 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And if the man be poor, thou shalt not sleep with his pledge:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In any case thou shalt deliver him the pledge again when the sun goeth down, that he may sleep in his own raiment, and bless thee: and it shall be righteousness unto thee before the LORD thy God.

Having another persons cloke was against the Mosaic Law for this garment was also used to sleep with as bed and covering to stay warm at night. By obeying the words of Jesus, the one suing would be compelled to give back your garments and drop the charges altogether for fear of being guilty of breaking the law. Jesus ministered obedience to principles of equity written in the law on a personal level.

1 Samuel 15:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

We now are compelled to understand that the concept Jesus gave to Nicodemus of being born again, and even led by the Spirit, was endorsed while still under the Old testament Covenant.

John 3:1-3 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 3:7-8 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Even during the times that Jesus had disputes with the scribes, and Pharisees, He was endorsing the Mosaic Law in its proper form, ministering the truth thereof, and revealing the lies and deception of a distorted religion.

John 5:44-47 (KJV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP]How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The disciples were instructed, and correctly so, that the fulfilling of the law and the prophets was only complete after the resurrection of Christ. Jesus had told them before His death and reminded them after His resurrection. They understood perfectly that before the crucifixion all things were taking place under the covenant of the Old Testament.

Luke 24:44 (KJV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Paul ministers that until the resurrection of Christ, the Old Testament Covenant was in effect.

1 Corinthians 15:19-21 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

With all this said, those of us who say we only abide by the teachings of Jesus rather than the teachings of the Old Covenant law, have now been educated that our Savior’s teachings were also under the Old Covenant law until His death, burial, and resurrection, and defined in their proper order and application.

Not until the testator dies will the last will and testament take effect. So the New Testament arrived at Jesus' death according to:

Hebrews 9:16-17 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
 

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Wow, big letters and bright colors. Too bad there is no substance. Everything quoted here is about the Passover and nothing about Ishtar.
oh please enlighten us about Ishtar.
 

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With all this said, those of us who say we only abide by the teachings of Jesus rather than the teachings of the Old Covenant law, have now been educated that our Savior’s teachings were also under the Old Covenant law until His death, burial, and resurrection, and defined in their proper order and application.
and...who didn't know that?
that was 2000 years ago.

Old Covenant GONE.
 

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No, I did not misread Paul, I did not read into what he said an opinion or "wannbe", I simply read what he wrote.
you cherry-picked one verse and misapplied what he said.
you were already corrected on it.
 

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The Lord Jesus is instituting a New Way.

The old way pointed to Him. He is now the New Way.

There was a Passover that represented, as a form, what the Lord Jesus Christ would do for us. The Lord Jesus Christ is that True Passover.

The first one, that saved the hebrews from the death angel, was merely a shadow of what was to come.


If you can see this you can start to see how "hebrew roots" are the schoolmaster that brings us to Christ. But you don't want to be stuck back there worshipping the shadow. That's cultish and silly. Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth.


1 John 1:1-10
[SUP]1[/SUP]That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;[SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
we have no indication from the New Testament that after Jesus instituted the Lord’s Supper, the church continued to observe the passover. NONE.

The whole point of the “new” covenant is the passover was fulfilled in Christ.
everything about it.

unbelieving jews still observe it.

2+2=4