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So not many are willing to be co-crucified with Christ at his death to self where God the Father took away the sin of the world through Son, in order to give us new life in the resurrected Spirit of Son for us to be one in the same.
[h=3]Philippians 3:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
[h=3]Philippians 3:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
Luke 18:11
Holman Christian Standard Bible
The Pharisee took his stand and was praying like this: God, I thank You that I'm not like other people--greedy, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
The Pharisee took his stand and was praying like this: God, I thank You that I'm not like other people--greedy, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
God starts Cobus with the New Heart he implants in us and this Love spreads abroad through out our whole new being, and we do quit warring in the flesh, once we see ourselves co-crucified with Christ at his death, then we see the new life here and now
[h=3]Philippians 3:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
[h=3]Philippians 3:10[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
True Church (Tabernacle)
[h=3]Hebrews 8[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[h=3]The High Priest of a New Covenant[/h]8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, [SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
[h=3]Hebrews 8[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[h=3]The High Priest of a New Covenant[/h]8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, [SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One
Jesus being our sin advocate continues to keep us viewed Holy from Father, and this is not for taking it for granted and sinning as the Corinthians did in taking being forgiven for granted and used it to harm others as they did without conscience. So it is why Paul wrote them 1 Cor. Not that they all were Saints it was to the Saints that are in Christ to show them why God took away all sin through Son. It was to make you a born again Saint by the resurrected Christ in the Spirit having God's love spread abroad through us.
1 John 2:12 [ Reasons for Writing ] I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
Colossians 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation
Response? Belief and praises and thanksgiving entering his courts with this
Jesus being our sin advocate continues to keep us viewed Holy from Father, and this is not for taking it for granted and sinning as the Corinthians did in taking being forgiven for granted and used it to harm others as they did without conscience. So it is why Paul wrote them 1 Cor. Not that they all were Saints it was to the Saints that are in Christ to show them why God took away all sin through Son. It was to make you a born again Saint by the resurrected Christ in the Spirit having God's love spread abroad through us.
1 John 2:12 [ Reasons for Writing ] I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
Colossians 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation
Response? Belief and praises and thanksgiving entering his courts with this
Ephesians 1:13 in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Bookends so you think sanctification (making HOLY) is NOT completed here on earth? You talk as if there are three sanctification processes. Why? Jesus said the GLORY that he has given us is tghe same glory He had. Glory is GODLINESS! Jesus says they are not of this world, EVEN as I am not of this world. And why would God SANCTIFY a PERFECT MAN more that what the man is already given RECIEVING THEHOLY SPIRIT!
Here is the problem with your three steps.... If God gives the Holy Spirit to a person, and that person is NOT HOLY, then God's Spirit does not make Holy! If God however gives the Spirit to LEAD before HE FILLS, then the spirit LEADS TO HOLINESS.
Let me ask you this, Do you have the Holy Spirit in you? If you say YES, what I think you will say, then where does the Holy Spirit go when you sin? because if He ALLOWS you to sin, then He is as guilty as you, BY HIS OWN WORDS! The Holy Spirit HIMSELF says there is NO SIN IN HIM. NONE! And the Holy Spirit (Christ Jesus) says HE HAS NO PART WITH DARKNESS... Now we do not have to talk about darkness is in sin ans sin in darkness, and light is righteousness and righteousness is light.
What part has God with balaal, or the righteous with the sinner... Same as light with darkness.... NONE! So where does the Hly Ghost in you go whe nyou sin? He cannot be in you in sin... Cannot....
But! If the Holy Spirit (Christ Jesus) is IN YOU then ALL OF HIM IS YOU, and ALL OF YOU IS HIM... God says people that are righteous is as righteous as HE IS. That means they are 100% righteous. Ones that BATLLE with SIN, still is not as righteous as God. And there is only ONE THING THAT CAN MAKE A MAN RIGHTEOUS: CHRIST JESUS!
Let me just share one truth that so many people just do not understand.... IT IS NOT THE BLOOD OF JESUS THAT KEEPS YOU RIGHTEOUS, it is THE SPIRIT OF JESUS! There is NO righteousness in the blood, it is in the LIFE (Spirit) of Jesus. And no man can live that HOLY LIFE OF JESUS, without HIS SPIRIT. And no man that has that HOLY SPIRIT, can do sin!
The Holy Spirit is the SEED that are in ALL who are born again... And born again is not a caterpillar, it is a beautiful COMPLETE butterfly that NEVER DIES! After BORN AGAIN, there is NO DEATH, God says... And ye shall have ETERNAL LIFE... The PERSON you are (your soul and your spirit) will NEVER DIE! Why? Because you WERE BORN OF THE SPIRIT. Jesus says whosoever is not born of HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT have enter into the Kingdom. And we ENTER HERE! Jesus said they are NOT OF THIS WORLD.... that menas they are ALREADY OF THE KINGDOM.....
So the MOMENT GOD puts HIS SPIRIT IN US we ARE IN THE KINGDOM, AND IN HIM IS NO SIN!
God says.... STRIVE HARD... that means FIGHT SIN.... And enter in.... Do you think there is still fighting sin when you did enter.... If that is true, I want no part of God's NARROW gate! Nope my friend all the GOOD promises in hte Bible is on the other side of the NARROW GATE.... Peace, Love, Holiness, righteousness, perfection of charactor, Goliness, Sabbath rest, Godly rest, and KINGDOM GLORY... ALL is on the other side of the narrow GATE, EVEN FATHER is there!
May hte LORD'S WILL BE DONE IN YOU MY FRIENDS... May HIS blessings be FULFILLED in all of you! Amen! Go through the narrow gate! Strive hard many try few succeed.. same as the parable.... Many called few chosen. The whole Bible teaches that God ALWAYS has a remnant of HIS people here on earth, but they are NOT of the world, they are OF HIS KINGDOM! Praise the Holy Father for HIS GOOD WORK! AMEN!
Here is the problem with your three steps.... If God gives the Holy Spirit to a person, and that person is NOT HOLY, then God's Spirit does not make Holy! If God however gives the Spirit to LEAD before HE FILLS, then the spirit LEADS TO HOLINESS.
Let me ask you this, Do you have the Holy Spirit in you? If you say YES, what I think you will say, then where does the Holy Spirit go when you sin? because if He ALLOWS you to sin, then He is as guilty as you, BY HIS OWN WORDS! The Holy Spirit HIMSELF says there is NO SIN IN HIM. NONE! And the Holy Spirit (Christ Jesus) says HE HAS NO PART WITH DARKNESS... Now we do not have to talk about darkness is in sin ans sin in darkness, and light is righteousness and righteousness is light.
What part has God with balaal, or the righteous with the sinner... Same as light with darkness.... NONE! So where does the Hly Ghost in you go whe nyou sin? He cannot be in you in sin... Cannot....
But! If the Holy Spirit (Christ Jesus) is IN YOU then ALL OF HIM IS YOU, and ALL OF YOU IS HIM... God says people that are righteous is as righteous as HE IS. That means they are 100% righteous. Ones that BATLLE with SIN, still is not as righteous as God. And there is only ONE THING THAT CAN MAKE A MAN RIGHTEOUS: CHRIST JESUS!
Let me just share one truth that so many people just do not understand.... IT IS NOT THE BLOOD OF JESUS THAT KEEPS YOU RIGHTEOUS, it is THE SPIRIT OF JESUS! There is NO righteousness in the blood, it is in the LIFE (Spirit) of Jesus. And no man can live that HOLY LIFE OF JESUS, without HIS SPIRIT. And no man that has that HOLY SPIRIT, can do sin!
The Holy Spirit is the SEED that are in ALL who are born again... And born again is not a caterpillar, it is a beautiful COMPLETE butterfly that NEVER DIES! After BORN AGAIN, there is NO DEATH, God says... And ye shall have ETERNAL LIFE... The PERSON you are (your soul and your spirit) will NEVER DIE! Why? Because you WERE BORN OF THE SPIRIT. Jesus says whosoever is not born of HOLY SPIRIT, will NOT have enter into the Kingdom. And we ENTER HERE! Jesus said they are NOT OF THIS WORLD.... that menas they are ALREADY OF THE KINGDOM.....
So the MOMENT GOD puts HIS SPIRIT IN US we ARE IN THE KINGDOM, AND IN HIM IS NO SIN!
God says.... STRIVE HARD... that means FIGHT SIN.... And enter in.... Do you think there is still fighting sin when you did enter.... If that is true, I want no part of God's NARROW gate! Nope my friend all the GOOD promises in hte Bible is on the other side of the NARROW GATE.... Peace, Love, Holiness, righteousness, perfection of charactor, Goliness, Sabbath rest, Godly rest, and KINGDOM GLORY... ALL is on the other side of the narrow GATE, EVEN FATHER is there!
May hte LORD'S WILL BE DONE IN YOU MY FRIENDS... May HIS blessings be FULFILLED in all of you! Amen! Go through the narrow gate! Strive hard many try few succeed.. same as the parable.... Many called few chosen. The whole Bible teaches that God ALWAYS has a remnant of HIS people here on earth, but they are NOT of the world, they are OF HIS KINGDOM! Praise the Holy Father for HIS GOOD WORK! AMEN!
No disagreement here reguarding Judaism; but here's the thing about religious Christians, that I believe will turn into their own self destruction.
Judah and Levi were the tribes that were taught about the coming Messiah/Christ and went through incredible trials and tribulations in preparing for his birth.
If there was no Judah and Levi, there would have been no Christ/Messiah.
Or put another way; No Judaism-No Christianity.
The ONLY thing that Christ/Messiah changed about Judaism is the ordinances of the law concerning how The Father is now to be contacted. NOTHING ELSE.
The 12 Patriarchal Father's ARE the The House of Israel, that were ALL born in the land of Judeah.
The 12 Patriarchal Father's still practised Judaism for a lot of years, prior to the birth of Messiah.
So in other words; The so-called Christian religions of today are actually worse than the old time religion of Judaism: Why? because they behave exactly the same way as 11 of those Patriarchal father's did towards their brother Joseph.
Kick the king-line into the ditch, and we will do it our way. LOL
Not to worry though; if one isn't aquainted with what The King said concerning His Messiah/Christ, there will be plenty of time to be taught, on The Lord's Day.
No Judah and Levi were not The Whole House of Israel, just the means in which Israel was brought forth; just a part of The House, but the main parts, like the foundation and the frame, so that lastly one can put on the roof, Christ/Messiah.
Judah and Levi were the tribes that were taught about the coming Messiah/Christ and went through incredible trials and tribulations in preparing for his birth.
If there was no Judah and Levi, there would have been no Christ/Messiah.
Or put another way; No Judaism-No Christianity.
The ONLY thing that Christ/Messiah changed about Judaism is the ordinances of the law concerning how The Father is now to be contacted. NOTHING ELSE.
The 12 Patriarchal Father's ARE the The House of Israel, that were ALL born in the land of Judeah.
The 12 Patriarchal Father's still practised Judaism for a lot of years, prior to the birth of Messiah.
So in other words; The so-called Christian religions of today are actually worse than the old time religion of Judaism: Why? because they behave exactly the same way as 11 of those Patriarchal father's did towards their brother Joseph.
Kick the king-line into the ditch, and we will do it our way. LOL
Not to worry though; if one isn't aquainted with what The King said concerning His Messiah/Christ, there will be plenty of time to be taught, on The Lord's Day.
No Judah and Levi were not The Whole House of Israel, just the means in which Israel was brought forth; just a part of The House, but the main parts, like the foundation and the frame, so that lastly one can put on the roof, Christ/Messiah.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now law does not necesarily mean the kaw of moses but the law thay bound humanity at one poi.t was the law of sin the opposite of righteusness to abide in christ is to remain in his righteous ness the righteousness of the spirit (rom 8:2 / psa 45:6-7) and we must chose who we want to serve now the master people serve is depicted by their actions as.in mathew when jesus said ; 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. note
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now law does not necesarily mean the kaw of moses but the law thay bound humanity at one poi.t was the law of sin the opposite of righteusness to abide in christ is to remain in his righteous ness the righteousness of the spirit (rom 8:2 / psa 45:6-7) and we must chose who we want to serve now the master people serve is depicted by their actions as.in mathew when jesus said ; 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. note
In observance the word might was used oftenly that he might destroy the works of the devil or might become as you and i refering to jesus and Our Father might used meaning not everyone is going to make it but by grace and the element called truth ,...... 1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils
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You're right. the narrow gate is Jesus. People who insist on being obedient to a certain set of rules or way of living in order to get into heaven are trying to climb up some other way and are the thieves and robbers. That's why Jesus will say to some of these kinds of people, "I never knew you. Depart from me ye that work iniquity."
People who say that the way to get in is not being obedient are just as much at fault, and in as much danger of not being recognized as those who say that it is only through obedience that we can get in. The thieves and robbers are the ones who do not read the whole of what God tells them, but only pick one piece of it. Neither the works will save you people or the love is all that is required people, works won't save you people will get in--neither of them.
6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;