The Origin of the Wedding Ring. Some of you ain't gonna like dis...

[Elizabeth619]

Since there is yet another abundance of "pagan" Holiday threads, and how Halloween, Easter, Christmas...ect is considered a sin in many members here then I think we need to touch on something I have mentioned over and over and over again, but little is said about it. It seems to be just looked over like it doesn't matter.

Do certain "religious" Holidays have roots that are pagan? Yes.
Is it wrong for a Christian to observe these holidays? That is up to you all, and I am not about to judge anyone based on their decisions.

The problem I do have is it seems some feel pagan customs and practices are only tied in Holidays. Well, they don't end there. If you are against holidays then that's fine, but if you are guilty of certain other things that are pagan then you are a hypocrite so that is why I am going to take the time to educate people on the history of the wedding ring. Mainly because many married folk here probably wear one so it will hit home for several. I am not writing this to start trouble or to make others feel guilty, but to show we need to be careful about our behaviors and make sure were aren't judging others when we are just as guilty.

The bible does not say anything about wearing a ring on one's hand to signify marriage so why do we do this?

No one knows for sure how far back the wearing of a ring goes, but it was a prominant thing in Egyptian times and it is believed that is where it originated(Egyptians LOVED their jewelry), and rings worn by pharoah were even mentioned in the bible. Genesis 41:42 "Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his hand and put it on Joseph’s hand"
I am going to take a wild guess and say that because the Egyptians prided themselves on their gold and jewels is one reason we are told not to adorn ourselves in gold.

Rings are also mentioned in Greek Mythology with the story of Prometheus wanting to steal fire from heaven for earthly use. Long story short...this ticked Zeus off so he tied him in chains. Prometheus broke away leaving one link of the chain on his finger as part of a reminder that he was forever tied to rocks.

Now in Roman times they were considered the first to use rings to "tie" people not only to social classes but as marital partners. During the betrothal ceremony the bridegroom gave a plain iron finger ring to the family of the bride as a symbol of his commitment and financial ability to support the bride. Marriages were not made in heaven but over a negotiating table. Originally the betrothal ceremony was more elaborate and important than the marriage rite, which was a simple fulfillment of the betrothal commitment. It was only much later in Christian history that the ring was made part of the wedding ceremony.

Here is some more info on this topic
A Look at the Wedding Ring


What can we gather from all this information? The wedding ring origin did not derive from Christianity, or Israelites. It seems to come from pagan origins with quite detailed stories and myths. Even if it wasn't pagan origin they still use it today and it is a huge part of their ceremonies. This is really something to consider.
So.... how many think that wedding rings are ok, but celebrating holidays are a sin? What's the difference? They're both pagan aren't they?

 

[Ugly]

Lets not forget the days of the weeks are named after Pagan gods. So using those names could fall into this as well.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Lets not forget the days of the weeks are named after Pagan gods. So using those names could fall into this as well.

Did I ever tell you I was an Aries?

 

[Isdaniel]

Hmmmm i wonder if Adam and Eve wore a ring lol it must have been made out of a vine or grass or something

 

[Elizabeth619]

Hmmmm i wonder if Adam and Eve wore a ring lol it must have been made out of a vine or grass or something

Bible doesn't say, so we should not assume they did.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mark 7:9, "Then He said to them : How well you reject the Law of Yahweh , so that you may keep your own tradition !"

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

A friend in college used to joke, 'With this ball and chain I thee wed.'

 

[Elizabeth619]

Mark 7:9, "Then He said to them : How well you reject the Law of Yahweh , so that you may keep your own tradition !"

By chance do you have a cross in your home?

 

[Isdaniel]

Bible doesn't say, so we should not assume they did.

I am not assuming my friend its called sarcasm

 

[Elizabeth619]

I am not assuming my friend its called sarcasm

I know, but believe it or not some with try to argue they did.

 

[KohenMatt]

I've never done any research on the rings, but I suppose a difference between the rings and the holidays would be the driving force or purpose behind each of them. Did people start wearing rings as a result of worship or covenant to some other god or force? I'm genuinely curious, because I've never done any studying on it specifically.

I do know, however, that some of these holidays were started solely for the worship of other gods.

And I agree, there are a lot of odd things in a wedding ceremony. I would probably do some things different about a wedding now than I did 13 years ago.

 

[Hizikyah]

By chance do you have a cross in your home?

lol, NO... that is idolatry. I actually lost a friend over this, because i said I disagree with these things, he replied " but how will people know we are christian?" I replied "by our actions and our firm stance against sin" He quit coming around me...

 

[Elizabeth619]

By chance do you have a cross in your home?

Though you haven't answered yet Hizikyan I will go ahead and tell you about the cross.
Did you know that the cross was used in Egyptian times? It is called an Ankh. It was referred to as the key to the nile connecting between Earth and the afterlife. In hieroglyphs Egyptian gods such as Isis, Anqet, Ptah, Satet, Sobek, Tefnut, Osiris, Ra, Hathor, and Anubis were shown holding an ankh.
The Latin name is "crux ansata" meaning "cross with a handle"

The Roman Catholic church adopted the cross 600 years after the death of Jesus. Kinda like they did Holidays.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I've never done any research on the rings, but I suppose a difference between the rings and the holidays would be the driving force or purpose behind each of them. Did people start wearing rings as a result of worship or covenant to some other god or force? I'm genuinely curious, because I've never done any studying on it specifically.

I do know, however, that some of these holidays were started solely for the worship of other gods.

And I agree, there are a lot of odd things in a wedding ceremony. I would probably do some things different about a wedding now than I did 13 years ago.

Do people observe Halloween or Christmas to worship Satan just because its roots are pagan? You can't answer that.
What I see is people turning what once may not have been Christian into something as a reminder of God, Jesus, and eternal life.
An object like a Christmas tree, or a Halloween decoration is amoral. Just like a wedding ring. Whatever the meaning is behind it for an individual is what matters. To me it is wrong to promote that observing certain things as "wrong" when you don't know ones heart.

 

[Hizikyah]

Though you haven't answered yet Hizikyan I will go ahead and tell you about the cross.
Did you know that the cross was used in Egyptian times? It is called an Ankh. It was referred to as the key to the nile connecting between Earth and the afterlife. In hieroglyphs Egyptian gods such as Isis, Anqet, Ptah, Satet, Sobek, Tefnut, Osiris, Ra, Hathor, and Anubis were shown holding an ankh.
The Latin name is "crux ansata" meaning "cross with a handle"

The Roman Catholic church adopted the cross 600 years after the death of Jesus. Kinda like they did Holidays.

I probally posted my reply while you were typing this. Im impressed with you knowledge, just to add a bit, it was a pagan symbol in babylon too, it was the sign of Tammuz, and "hot cross buns" were baked for the queen of heaven better known now as Easter (the mother of Tammuz, Ishtar or Semaramis), or Mary...

 

[marrion]

Interesting study.
what makes it more interesting is that a sister in Christ told me about a visitation she had with Jesus and he pretty much told her the same thing you are saying about the wedding ring.
Not only did Jesus tell her about the wedding ring but he told the sister to tell the women to not wear any jewelry and to also remove other things from off their persons.
Quite a few are having such visitations and Jesus told them that the reason he is giving them these corrections is because if the rapture had come only few of them would have been raptured.
He said although they loved him and were serving him they were doing this in vain because they were not holy in his eyes because of these things they were wearing.
He is showing mercy by correcting them before his soon return so that they will be able to go in the rapture.
They are spreading the message worldwide and are undergoing a lot of persecution and ridicule even death threats.
The cool thing is that Jesus gave them both old and new testament scripture to support what he told them so they would be able to convince people who did not believe they had this experience.
They also say that Christianity in America has tried to make the narrow road broader so that more people could fit onto it without having to live in both inward and outward holiness.
Their testimonies are quite inspiring while frightening and it lets me know that America is in need of a major holiness revival.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Interesting study.
what makes it more interesting is that a sister in Christ told me about a visitation she had with Jesus and he pretty much told her the same thing you are saying about the wedding ring.
Not only did Jesus tell her about the wedding ring but he told the sister to tell the women to not wear any jewelry and to also remove other things from off their persons.
Quite a few are having such visitations and Jesus told them that the reason he is giving them these corrections is because if the rapture had come only few of them would have been raptured.
He said although they loved him and were serving him they were doing this in vain because they were not holy in his eyes because of these things they were wearing.
He is showing mercy by correcting them before his soon return so that they will be able to go in the rapture.
They are spreading the message worldwide and are undergoing a lot of persecution and ridicule even death threats.
The cool thing is that Jesus gave them both old and new testament scripture to support what he told them so they would be able to convince people who did not believe they had this experience.
They also say that Christianity in America has tried to make the narrow road broader so that more people could fit onto it without having to live in both inward and outward holiness.
Their testimonies are quite inspiring while frightening and it lets me know that America is in need of a major holiness revival.

A sister was visited by Jesus? You mean Jesus returned and we all missed it but her?

 

[Isdaniel]

Interesting study.
what makes it more interesting is that a sister in Christ told me about a visitation she had with Jesus and he pretty much told her the same thing you are saying about the wedding ring.
Not only did Jesus tell her about the wedding ring but he told the sister to tell the women to not wear any jewelry and to also remove other things from off their persons.
Quite a few are having such visitations and Jesus told them that the reason he is giving them these corrections is because if the rapture had come only few of them would have been raptured.
He said although they loved him and were serving him they were doing this in vain because they were not holy in his eyes because of these things they were wearing.
He is showing mercy by correcting them before his soon return so that they will be able to go in the rapture.
They are spreading the message worldwide and are undergoing a lot of persecution and ridicule even death threats.
The cool thing is that Jesus gave them both old and new testament scripture to support what he told them so they would be able to convince people who did not believe they had this experience.
They also say that Christianity in America has tried to make the narrow road broader so that more people could fit onto it without having to live in both inward and outward holiness.
Their testimonies are quite inspiring while frightening and it lets me know that America is in need of a major holiness revival.

Honestly i refuse to believe such a story hmmmm

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times]Gen. 41:40 You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people are to submit to your orders. Only with respect to the throne will I be greater than you." 41So Pharaoh said to Joseph, "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt." 42Then Pharaoh took his signet ring from his finger and put it on Joseph's finger. He dressed him in robes of fine linen and put a gold chain around his neck.


Probaly Joseph sin

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[chubbena]

Do people observe Halloween or Christmas to worship Satan just because its roots are pagan? You can't answer that.
What I see is people turning what once may not have been Christian into something as a reminder of God, Jesus, and eternal life.
An object like a Christmas tree, or a Halloween decoration is amoral. Just like a wedding ring. Whatever the meaning is behind it for an individual is what matters. To me it is wrong to promote that observing certain things as "wrong" when you don't know ones heart.

It bothers me when Christians observe pagan originated festivals thinking they are legitimate and quit on biblical festivals thinking they are legalism. Birthday and candle on birthday cake are another pagan thing.
I like the way Isaac married Rebekah - he just pulled her into the tent, no ceremony, no priest, no wedding certificate and Yahweh the witness. However, most Christians I met consider this illegitimate. I just don't understand this because even the government considers it legal.

 

[chubbena]

Interesting study.
what makes it more interesting is that a sister in Christ told me about a visitation she had with Jesus and he pretty much told her the same thing you are saying about the wedding ring.
Not only did Jesus tell her about the wedding ring but he told the sister to tell the women to not wear any jewelry and to also remove other things from off their persons.
Quite a few are having such visitations and Jesus told them that the reason he is giving them these corrections is because if the rapture had come only few of them would have been raptured.
He said although they loved him and were serving him they were doing this in vain because they were not holy in his eyes because of these things they were wearing.
He is showing mercy by correcting them before his soon return so that they will be able to go in the rapture.
They are spreading the message worldwide and are undergoing a lot of persecution and ridicule even death threats.
The cool thing is that Jesus gave them both old and new testament scripture to support what he told them so they would be able to convince people who did not believe they had this experience.
They also say that Christianity in America has tried to make the narrow road broader so that more people could fit onto it without having to live in both inward and outward holiness.
Their testimonies are quite inspiring while frightening and it lets me know that America is in need of a major holiness revival.

So Rebekah can't make it because Abraham gave her a nose ring?