Compassion and the Republican Party of the USA

[zone]

When it doesn't happen, can we throw rocks?

hey.
i never said i were a profit.

dat's the big boys' deadline.
they do plan ya know

 

[zone]

Oliver Wyman Group has released a very interesting piece about the potential for a future financial crisis (thanks to the FT). They make the case that the next great financial crisis will occur around 2015 and will be the result of a massive bubble in commodity markets that results in widespread economic collapse and sovereign defaults.

Read more: THE FINANCIAL CRISIS OF 2015 - Business Insider

http://www.er.ethz.ch/fco/TheFinancialCrisis2015-OliverWyman.pdf < click

 

[Ritter]

If that happens while I am a 1L, the rest of the world will shut down with me.

I am not in danger, Zone.



I am the one who knocks.

 

[zone]

Average family will be £7,000 worse off by 2015 thanks to economic crisis

By KIRSTY WALKER
PUBLISHED: 23:00 GMT, 27 June 2012 | UPDATED: 07:21 GMT, 28 June 2012

Economic crisis: Average family will be £7,000 worse off by 2015 | Mail Online


Fed's $4 Trillion Question: Where's the Exit Door?

Published: Wednesday, 20 Mar 2013 | 10:48 AM ET
By: Jeff Cox | Finance Editor

The Federal Reserve faces a $4 trillion question, and the stock market's seemingly unstoppable rally could hang on the answer.

With increasing fervor, investors are asking what is the U.S. central bank's exit strategy for getting rid of all the government debt it has bought in an effort to stimulate risk assets and boost the economy.

Will the Fed simply take its chances with inflation and allow all the debt to mature in its own sweet time, or will it begin selling into the marketplace, risking losses that would halt the support payments it is sending to the nation's beleaguered Treasury?

"At some point they have to exit," said Garth Friesen, co-chief investment officer at hedge fund III Associates and a member of the New York Fed's Investor Advisory Committee. "Until that point they don't want to have premature tightening. How they balance those factors is what they're talking about today, yesterday and what they're going to be talking about in the next couple of meetings."

CNBC's Steve Liesman reports on what to expect from the U.S. Federal Reserve's statement on monetary policy, including whether it will address worries about quantitative easing.

The Fed's Open Market Committee concludes its two-day meeting today but is unlikely to provide more clues about how it will end its bond-buying program, known in market jargon as quantitative easing.

Fed's $4 Trillion Question: Where's the Exit Door?




ever'body think the market just magically does stuff.
up and down and hey - ppl react

nothing is further from the truth.




Andrew Huszar: Confessions of a Quantitative Easer

We went on a bond-buying spree that was supposed to help Main Street. Instead, it was a feast for Wall Street.

By ANDREW HUSZAR
Nov. 11, 2013 7:00 p.m. ET

I can only say: I'm sorry, America. As a former Federal Reserve official, I was responsible for executing the centerpiece program of the Fed's first plunge into the bond-buying experiment known as quantitative easing. The central bank continues to spin QE as a tool for helping Main Street. But I've come to recognize the program for what it really is: the greatest backdoor Wall Street bailout of all time.

Andrew Huszar: Confessions of a Quantitative Easer - WSJ.com < click

check it out

 

[Drett]

Okay, I guess I can bust out my crayons and give it a whirl. Son in Me may not be far off in that I could not find Ten Principles of Liberalism. This comes as a surprise because I would have thought some liberal would have taken up the cause in response to Kirk.

I'll put on my New York expat/Ender Wiggin wannabe hat. Keep in mind I am only spit balling, so feel free to suggest revisions.

Here it goes. The ten principles of modern liberalism...

1. The fundamental law of the universe is change.

To believe that there is an order of any kind beyond order imposed by man is folly. There are too many society with different moral and cultural values in existence to account for a Natural Law. The universe itself with its nonsensical red shifts and blue shifts, the shattered nature of human relations, cultural and moral norms so diametrically opposed to one another. So many different categories of being one can determine for themselves.

2. The modern liberal realizes that the only order possible is an order pursued and constructed by man.

The previous point indicates there is no order. This is not absolutely true, as there are is order constructed by man at different times and under different circumstances to ameliorate his condition. Alas, these structures become outdated. Most are entirely wrong and in need of liquidation.

3. The modern liberal believes history is progressing to an end.

It is obvious that the different orders imposed by men have, through a process of creative destruction, given us the best of all possible political worlds up until this certain point in time. We now have it within ourselves to, in the words of Thomas Paine, create the world over again. To erect, by evolution or revolution, a society free of want and needless division.

The caveat is that the new order is subject to being smashed by a newer order. Rule one reigns and it is within rule one that we act.

4. The modern liberal believes in the possession of secret knowledge.

To bring about the most ideal of societies, one must have the necessary patterns mastered. There are laws in existence, that while not absolutely true, guide human conduct. If policy is crafted along the lines of this secret knowledge, the masses will submit to it.

5. The modern liberal believes that education is then salvific.

The main problem of society is ignorance of these secret laws or rather the implications of these secret laws. They must be made to know them through education writ large. This includes but is not limited to their exposure to all the powers responsible for the dissemination of information.

6. The modern liberal is then the agent of change.

The modern liberal is to be a foot soldier in destroying the order and bringing about true freedom to man. They are to be a centered and organized people in their personal lives. Highly educated. Keen to introduce disorder outside their internal order that their internal order may be imposed on the ignorant.

7. The modern liberal believes the masses are to be valued and elevated.

The ultimate goal is the greatest good for the greatest number. The masses will cling to beliefs of old when it is not either in their best interest to or even their will to do so. They were engineered by previous civilizations to believe what they believe to remain subjects or in our modern case consumers. Therefore their elevation may not be desired at the appointed time.

8. The modern liberal understands that liberation comes through primal impulse.

Those feelings that are most basic to humanity are most true. In the past such things were incorrectly identified by wider society as sins. They are, in fact, the seeds of humanity's liberation. Restriction of them in the whole of society is merely a method of control.

At times, the situation may dictate the enforcement of a standard for an array of purposes. Strategy may call for it to slowly acclimate the more obstinate of the masses to their new liberation. Necessity may also cry for it in times of emergency (disease prevention for example).

9. The modern liberal believes the construction of society is continuous.

At all times events and interests are dictating the course of history. The modern liberal realizes the time to think, plan, and act is simultaneous. Moment by moment, life is in flux. We must act within this patchwork to see that society arrives at the most beneficial of places.

10. The modern liberal understands the nature of property and its interest.

As one seeks to reformulate society to the end of liberty for all, the enemy is, of course, the past and the delusional absolutists clining to their epoch. However there is another source of contention ever-present and it must be accounted for: property and in the interest it brings about anathema to the common good.

It is an ever present rule that, even when averice is not at work, the lower-level desires and impulses to create, obtain, and provide for are distractions from the common goal of society-wide benefit. The modern liberal must constantly find ways to either relieve society of these desires, or subvert them.

1. I don't believe in change for change sake.

2. I don't believe the only order is constructed by man. It is constructed by God.

3. I guess we all believe it is going to end.

4. I don't go with that. Sounds dangerous.

5. Sounds good.

6. I don't go with this.

7. I don't really go with that.

8. I don't go with this.

9. I don't go with this.

10. I don't go with this.


Does this mean ... DAN DAN DAAA. I am a conservative ? Do you know where I can get me some chewing tabacci

 

[RickyZ]

This is what he identified as satanic if you are going by the meaning of what he wrote alone. If you have a beef with what you feel the implications are, take it up with him.

Uhm... you invited yourself into the conversation. By all means feel free to step in, but don't then take offense at being included.

SIM labels principles Jesus taught and embraced as Marxist. SIM labels Marxism satanic. 2+2=what? Again, be aware of the unspoken implications of your words.

I'm with him on Marxism being satanic. I'm not with him on how he labels his principles. Or which principles he supports.

Why is that the case? Why does the government have to do this? Share your Biblical basis.

Jesus taught generosity and sharing. When people don't do that, a beneficial government will try to do it for them. Yes government sucks and does a horrible job at it*. We can avoid that by being generous and sharing in the first place, thereby eliminating the need for government intervention. If you don't like starving people on government food stamps, then pay them enough that they can afford to eat. Just like Jesus says.

Do I really have to drag out the rich man passage again? You didn't hear it the first 2 times, what are the chances you're going to listen this time. That's what make this all so futile. You don't want to agree with my words, fine. You don't want to agree with your own principles words, fine. But when you don't want to agree with Jesus' words... well now that's just satanic.

Be careful, you might be a wealth hoarder compared to those who live on a dollar a day.

Wanna know what makes me not a hoarder? I know I am better off than 75% of the population, and that worries me. I just donated 30 cases of water to the local food pantry, and in my car I have a dozen bags of food and drink to hand out to people on the street who need it. Just donated nearly 4 figures to typhoon relief. 2 years ago I dropped 125k on a remodel to help keep a friend's construction company afloat. Have you ever been somewhere people live on a dollar a day? I risked jail in a thrid world country to bring money and medicine to people for whom a dollar would be riches. Yes I am aware that I am fortunate, and yes I am doing all I can to not be a hoarder. 'Cause I know Jesus doesn't like them.

What'd you do today? Check your stock listings?

Oh yeah, the *. Like the ACA, Walmart's webpage was overrun by traffic on Black Friday and crashed. Thousands of people were not able to log on or complete transactions. Pot ... kettle. Did you know that 4 of the top 10 richest people in the US are of the Walton family? And yet a Walmart in Ohio held a food drive for it's own employees.

I'm not sure where the line between prosperity and hoarding is, but I'm pretty sure that when 1 percent of the population grabs 95% of the resources, that falls on the hoarding side. And you shouldn't support it, because Jesus taught us to do just the opposite.

Ah heck why not:

Matthew 19:

16Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18“Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “ ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony,
19honor your father and mother,’[SUP]c[/SUP] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[SUP]d[/SUP]”
20“All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
27Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[SUP]e[/SUP] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

 

[Ritter]

1. I don't believe in change for change sake.

2. I don't believe the only order is constructed by man. It is constructed by God.

3. I guess we all believe it is going to end.

4. I don't go with that. Sounds dangerous.

5. Sounds good.

6. I don't go with this.

7. I don't really go with that.

8. I don't go with this.

9. I don't go with this.

10. I don't go with this.


Does this mean ... DAN DAN DAAA. I am a conservative ? Do you know where I can get me some chewing tabacci

Hahaha, yes Drett. You are definitely a classical liberal and would likely find yourself allying with conservatives at the local level in the US of A. That would include exposure to chew tobacco where I live (Virginia).

 

[Ritter]

Very few people would agree with all ten principles, but they now appear to be holy writ for the West.

 

[Ritter]

Uhm... you invited yourself into the conversation. By all means feel free to step in, but don't then take offense at being included.

SIM labels principles Jesus taught and embraced as Marxist. SIM labels Marxism satanic. 2+2=what? Again, be aware of the unspoken implications of your words.

I'm with him on Marxism being satanic. I'm not with him on how he labels his principles. Or which principles he supports.

I was just trying to be of help. What he was labeling as "satanic" appeared to be narrowly defined. If you took issue with his point of view, he would be the best man to talk to because I can only speak for him beyond the bald meaning of what he wrote down. Which I attempted to do with little thanks.

Jesus taught generosity and sharing. When people don't do that, a beneficial government will try to do it for them. Yes government sucks and does a horrible job at it*. We can avoid that by being generous and sharing in the first place, thereby eliminating the need for government intervention. If you don't like starving people on government food stamps, then pay them enough that they can afford to eat. Just like Jesus says.

Do I really have to drag out the rich man passage again? You didn't hear it the first 2 times, what are the chances you're going to listen this time. That's what make this all so futile. You don't want to agree with my words, fine. You don't want to agree with your own principles words, fine. But when you don't want to agree with Jesus' words... well now that's just satanic.

Your verse does not prove that the government has to do it. Hence my point. At no point in this passage or in any other does Christ say that charity is to be the role of the government. The government can tax. The government can bare the sword. The government can punish wrong doers and it can encourage good deeds.

There is something lovely called jurisdiction. When adhered to, it keeps a government of laws from developing into a tyranny. So yes, there are things that the government cannot do not merely because it is ineffective, but also because it is immoral for them to do so. A fine example is when Saul attempted to submit a burnt offering.

Wanna know what makes me not a hoarder? I know I am better off than 75% of the population, and that worries me. I just donated 30 cases of water to the local food pantry, and in my car I have a dozen bags of food and drink to hand out to people on the street who need it. Just donated nearly 4 figures to typhoon relief. 2 years ago I dropped 125k on a remodel to help keep a friend's construction company afloat. Have you ever been somewhere people live on a dollar a day? I risked jail in a thrid world country to bring money and medicine to people for whom a dollar would be riches. Yes I am aware that I am fortunate, and yes I am doing all I can to not be a hoarder. 'Cause I know Jesus doesn't like them.

Okay, then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call everyone with more money than you a hoarder. Not all of them are. Many are charitable. More invest (which is very risky and somewhat sacrificial). Apply the same standard to them as you would prefer applied to yourself.

What'd you do today? Check your stock listings?

Cute.

Oh yeah, the *. Like the ACA, Walmart's webpage was overrun by traffic on Black Friday and crashed. Thousands of people were not able to log on or complete transactions. Pot ... kettle. Did you know that 4 of the top 10 richest people in the US are of the Walton family? And yet a Walmart in Ohio held a food drive for it's own employees.

I'm not sure where the line between prosperity and hoarding is, but I'm pretty sure that when 1 percent of the population grabs 95% of the resources, that falls on the hoarding side. And you shouldn't support it, because Jesus taught us to do just the opposite.

The economy does not work like the game Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Ah heck why not:

Matthew 19:

16Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18“Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “ ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony,
19honor your father and mother,’[SUP]c[/SUP] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[SUP]d[/SUP]”
20“All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
27Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[SUP]e[/SUP] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

SonInMe's interpretation is the correct one contextually.

The rich young man was clearly trying to get to heaven on his own merit. First he put his self-righteousness into play, claiming to have kept the commandments that relate to other people. His possessions were, if you will, a second line of defense.

If you will, look to Mark 10:25. It was a popular notion that those who are richer could give more alms (ie, be the best dang philanthropists on planet earth). Jesus was demonstrating that this notion was wrong in God's economy. This astonished the disciples as it says in verse 25. The young man's personal merits (riches included) would not get him into heaven.

What would save is following the direct commands of Jesus. "Follow me." The young man loved his possessions so much that "follow me" was overlooked.

It appears to me that you have been sort of lulled into the rich young man's doctrine in a round about way. You may not believe in works-based salvation. I'll give you enough credit to assume that you believe in salvation by faith.

Nevertheless, you appear to measure spiritual standing by capacity for philanthropy in this case personal capacity. That is worthy, but it does not save. And while we are commanded to give (and give we should, without the help of someone else, I would be nowhere right now), that giving does not take the place of the gospel.


This is a worthy subject, but not the original conversation.

Going back to the OP, we are judging political parties by their capacity to give government funds to the poor and needy when elected to office. State redistribution of wealth.

Even if this passage somehow proved your point theologically, it does not prove anything concerning the Welfare State.

The conversation would then go something like this.

21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come follow me.

22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.

23 And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

24 "Also, if a man with much wealth refuses to give all his possessions to his needy brothers and sisters, it is then incumbent on the King or magistrate of some denomination to do so."

25 He then pointed the disciples and the onlookers and said "For it is the will of God that you bring all out of poverty into salvation, and if you fail then the state may assume a savior-like role to liberate the masses."

The green text is my farcicle addition. I just wanted to be clear to that end.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Uhm... you invited yourself into the conversation. By all means feel free to step in, but don't then take offense at being included.

SIM labels principles Jesus taught and embraced as Marxist. SIM labels Marxism satanic. 2+2=what? Again, be aware of the unspoken implications of your words.

I'm with him on Marxism being satanic. I'm not with him on how he labels his principles. Or which principles he supports.



Jesus taught generosity and sharing. When people don't do that, a beneficial government will try to do it for them. Yes government sucks and does a horrible job at it*. We can avoid that by being generous and sharing in the first place, thereby eliminating the need for government intervention. If you don't like starving people on government food stamps, then pay them enough that they can afford to eat. Just like Jesus says.

Do I really have to drag out the rich man passage again? You didn't hear it the first 2 times, what are the chances you're going to listen this time. That's what make this all so futile. You don't want to agree with my words, fine. You don't want to agree with your own principles words, fine. But when you don't want to agree with Jesus' words... well now that's just satanic.



Wanna know what makes me not a hoarder? I know I am better off than 75% of the population, and that worries me. I just donated 30 cases of water to the local food pantry, and in my car I have a dozen bags of food and drink to hand out to people on the street who need it. Just donated nearly 4 figures to typhoon relief. 2 years ago I dropped 125k on a remodel to help keep a friend's construction company afloat. Have you ever been somewhere people live on a dollar a day? I risked jail in a thrid world country to bring money and medicine to people for whom a dollar would be riches. Yes I am aware that I am fortunate, and yes I am doing all I can to not be a hoarder. 'Cause I know Jesus doesn't like them.

What'd you do today? Check your stock listings?

Oh yeah, the *. Like the ACA, Walmart's webpage was overrun by traffic on Black Friday and crashed. Thousands of people were not able to log on or complete transactions. Pot ... kettle. Did you know that 4 of the top 10 richest people in the US are of the Walton family? And yet a Walmart in Ohio held a food drive for it's own employees.

I'm not sure where the line between prosperity and hoarding is, but I'm pretty sure that when 1 percent of the population grabs 95% of the resources, that falls on the hoarding side. And you shouldn't support it, because Jesus taught us to do just the opposite.

Ah heck why not:

Matthew 19:

16Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18“Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “ ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony,
19honor your father and mother,’[SUP]c[/SUP] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[SUP]d[/SUP]”
20“All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
27Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[SUP]e[/SUP] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Yeah. I troll the interwebs from my manshun.


Try this:
Matthew 6
“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. [SUP]2 [/SUP]“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. [SUP]3 [/SUP]But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I donate to charities all the time. Are we supposed to brag about it as if it makes us morally superior? I mean, it is great for people to help others. I am sure we all agree, but it sorta gets to me when others have to announce all the good they've done. If that is how we as Christians are supposed to act then I really have some boasting to do.

 

[Ritter]

Yeah. I troll the interwebs from my manshun.


Try this:
Matthew 6
“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. [SUP]2 [/SUP]“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. [SUP]3 [/SUP]But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

To be fair, the man was challenged to that effect and he rose up to prove he was walking his talk. Surely we can appreciate that much.

I would contend though that Ricky should be careful in his judgment of the rich and response to the lure of materialism.

 

[jimmydiggs]

To be fair, the man was challenged to that effect and he rose up to prove he was walking his talk. Surely we can appreciate that much.

I would contend though that Ricky should be careful in his judgment of the rich and response to the lure of materialism.

I wasn't asking him to boast. I was only cautioning about complaining. You have a point, in that he is responding not as the originator. It just sounded really braggy with the whole, "look what I've done, what about you? do you stop watching your stock market ticker tape?" garbage.

 

[Elizabeth619]

People spend too much time criticizing the wealthy in my opinion. Yep, theres some greedy ones, and there are some greedy poor folks too. Like the ones who feel they should have everything handed to them by the wealthy. Some don't want to work, but feel entitled to it. That's just as greedy. They want charity, but aren't deserving of it because they aren't needy. Just lazy.

 

[SonInMe]

No poor person ever gave me a job.

I was a democrat, until I got a job.

I have been asked what I do for the Lord before. I say it always can be improved and bring up Matthew 6. That's it.

Was it this thread I posted the George Will article on how much more generous conservatives are? Mostly, ideologically, liberals tend to think others, especially the evil rich, and we must also add, white guy, should be charitable and they think they are compassionate by forcing that person to pay taxes.

This is pure covetness.

It is also the same practice Hitler used to unite his downtrodden defeated country to almost take over the world....unify by hatreds. You cannot tax the rich 40% without making them an evil entity.

No rich guy being rich has ever made me poor. In fact its the opposite. People have to make the things they buy. The more they invest into their business, to make more money, the better the chance I have of getting a job.

You want to put a huge dent into poverty? Stop taxing the rich. You would see such a boom that all liberals would throw down their false idol, marxism, and see the light.

 

[Ritter]

No poor person ever gave me a job.

I was a democrat, until I got a job.

I have been asked what I do for the Lord before. I say it always can be improved and bring up Matthew 6. That's it.

Was it this thread I posted the George Will article on how much more generous conservatives are? Mostly, ideologically, liberals tend to think others, especially the evil rich, and we must also add, white guy, should be charitable and they think they are compassionate by forcing that person to pay taxes.

This is pure covetness.

It is also the same practice Hitler used to unite his downtrodden defeated country to almost take over the world....unify by hatreds. You cannot tax the rich 40% without making them an evil entity.

No rich guy being rich has ever made me poor. In fact its the opposite. People have to make the things they buy. The more they invest into their business, to make more money, the better the chance I have of getting a job.

You want to put a huge dent into poverty? Stop taxing the rich. You would see such a boom that all liberals would throw down their false idol, marxism, and see the light.

Good points. Not so sure about the last paragraph though.

To quote Paul Shanklin, mimicking Sen. Chuck Schumar. :

"Ronald Reagan didn't win the Cold War. I'm still here."

Man's capacity for willful self-deception is legendary.

 

[SonInMe]

The destruction of Ronald Reagan's legacy was performed by

George Bush 1.

I have seen the enemy and its us

 

[Ritter]

The destruction of Ronald Reagan's legacy was performed by

George Bush 1.

I have seen the enemy and its us

A GOP so drunk on power after Reagan that they thought it would last forever and could thus act carelessly.

 

[Ritter]

Far from total blame rests with them though. As a civilization, we have lost the plot. Marxist ideals have become a major driving force.

 

[Stephen63]

No poor person ever gave me a job.

I was a democrat, until I got a job.

I have been asked what I do for the Lord before. I say it always can be improved and bring up Matthew 6. That's it.

Was it this thread I posted the George Will article on how much more generous conservatives are? Mostly, ideologically, liberals tend to think others, especially the evil rich, and we must also add, white guy, should be charitable and they think they are compassionate by forcing that person to pay taxes.

This is pure covetness.

It is also the same practice Hitler used to unite his downtrodden defeated country to almost take over the world....unify by hatreds. You cannot tax the rich 40% without making them an evil entity.

No rich guy being rich has ever made me poor. In fact its the opposite. People have to make the things they buy. The more they invest into their business, to make more money, the better the chance I have of getting a job.

You want to put a huge dent into poverty? Stop taxing the rich. You would see such a boom that all liberals would throw down their false idol, marxism, and see the light.

While poor people didn't give me a job, it was poor people who FOUND me jobs.

You obviously wasn't born & raised in da hood.

Psychologists will tell you people won't climb any higher than their surroundings in life. Not true. My daughter went to college to get a business degree. Now when she applies for jobs, they tell her she's overqualified or underqualified. Yet the one they give the job to is usually as dumb as a rock. Book sense, but no common sense. How did they get the job? Because of WHO they knew..... & guess how that person had so much influence........ Yep, rich.

Birds of a feather flock together....... I guess we see who you're running with.