There Are Many Scriptures That Disprove The Trinity

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Hi there Gjoll, all do respect, but there is a cure for being an imbecile... not that you're an idiot... I would never imply that, but you need to read your Bible. Yes Sir, eat your Bible, shut your yapper and eat the Bible good kind Sir then maybe you'll have something intelligent... I mean interesting to say [:

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Gjolll said:

You first need to repent and follow Jesus though. I don't mind discussing issues with you CIVILY, but if you going to call Jesus tripe, then well, you know, I'm not just gonna say nothing. Shut your mouth sinner. Have a little respect for the one who died so you can have life.............

Gjolll · Dec 5, 2013

Pilgrim-Progress said:

God cannot die, and God does not need raising to the Father's right hand. Go figure, and stop calling me a sinner unless you want to be judged.

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Gjolll said:

Sinner, sinner, sinner, sinner....... (are we going to have a civil discussion? or just be boring)

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Gjolll said:

Sure He can. And when you die, you'll be dead too, very dead - but you won't raise yourself from the grave like He did, or will you Gjolll?

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Sure He can He can do whatever the Heaven He wants, He's God for Heaven's sake............. just because YOUR opinion tells you to be superstitious about death and the dead does not mean that the Bible has to agree.

Gjolll, you must remember that your ancestors rejected God because of their traditions you see, and that was before people went around lying to children that science and religion aren't intimately connected, and that most atheists and agnostics are closet satanists/witches.......... so u have 2 hav a balanced and honest opinion of life b4 u can actually go around telling ppl what 2 believe.

u obviously a very primitive sort of cavemanish belief in life u know u believe that Jesus is tripe, and im just saying that u need 2 grow up. u not getting any younger. one foot in the grave dude. time 2 repent. stop worshiping the devil

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Wow, I must have really struck a nerve to make the hypocrites shut their filthy sinner mouths. I got to dash people sleep time. Jesus bless, and remember to repent of your sin, and follow Him. Time is short.

Maitreya · Dec 5, 2013

Pilgrim-Progress said:

Sure He can He can do whatever the Heaven He wants, He's God for Heaven's sake............. just because YOUR opinion tells you to be superstitious about death and the dead does not mean that the Bible has to agree.

Gjolll, you must remember that your ancestors rejected God because of their traditions you see, and that was before people went around lying to children that science and religion aren't intimately connected, and that most atheists and agnostics are closet satanists/witches.......... so u have 2 hav a balanced and honest opinion of life b4 u can actually go around telling ppl what 2 believe.

u obviously a very primitive sort of cavemanish belief in life u know u believe that Jesus is tripe, and im just saying that u need 2 grow up. u not getting any younger. one foot in the grave dude. time 2 repent. stop worshiping the devil

Dear dear dear ...

'When I have wrought with you for my own name's sake, only then shall you perceive that I am the God'.

Josh321 · Dec 5, 2013

Pilgrim-Progress said:

Your problem is that you enjoy making excuses for your owns sins and the sins of others too much that it has deceived you from believing the full part of the gospel. It's not all love buddy. Why did God send a flood? Ye sinner, you need to get your heart right with God...

And if you were serious about leading people to Christ, you wouldn't play around with Graven Images Josh. If I am not mistaken most of the trouble that Israel went through was because of Graven Images...........

One of the books in the Bible is JUDGES btw

So much for being completely irresponsible and not holding anyone accountable

But that is not what you are saying

You think that you are right

I am telling you that you are wrong

You think I am wrong

I am telling you that you do not know who you worship......

Doesn't mean you aren't searching, but you need the gospel explained properly to you.

That's why I say this isn't a tupperware party Josh....... this is serious stuff........ if you want to play lego, you are welcome to, the Gospel isn't for making excuses. Its to encourage ppl to b lead by God's Spirit.

such strong accusations i don't even know which side you really on, are you a make believer or a believer? but i'm done talking to you, your seem far to proud and fill will pride so it wouldn't make any sense, God bless

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Josh321 said:

"and they were cut to the heart"

The gospel isn't for sissies dude. Don't get me wrong though. I'm not trying to rile up your feathers. Seems like you think I'm out for a fight or something.

Let me ask you a question, when has the Gospel ever not been a heavy message? Why did people throw stones at Jesus? I mean, come on get serious. You telling me that Jesus is some nancy panzy that walks around on His toes. flip people this is the Messiah Son of God, the Saviour of the World.

but ye u welcome to exit, my concern is the souls of sinners, not the ah... states of their egos or whatever. if u think im trying 2 be all proud and stuff, then mb ur proud. but i am definitely proud of Jesus and what He stood for......

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Maitreya said:

I didn't mean to cut u short, but the OP is kind of the focus on this thread. i just thot since the Buddhists and catholics are chipping into this thread 2 giv their 50 cents why they think Jesus is not God its all a bit too overwhelming.............. we should stick to the watchtower society versus what traditional Christianity teaches.......

Catholicism and Buddhism/Hinduism are not traditional Christian teachings, at all...

edit: and the atheists joining in 2 throw some more stones at Jesus

Josh321 · Dec 5, 2013

Pilgrim-Progress said:

so you telling me the gospel is about going around telling people " your going to burn in hell for what you do " that isn't love at all and i don't see how you can know God because God is love, the gospel is about preaching to the people the truth and sharing your testimony to them, i have no idea what gospel you are sharing

alexis · Dec 5, 2013

Almost all Christian denominations branched off the Catholic church.. So I kinda disagree that it is not traditional Christian teachings..

But I am confused as to the claims that Jesus is not Christ the Messiah... Jesus Himself said he was God. Thus anyone who believes Him not to be believes Him to be a liar.

Maitreya · Dec 5, 2013

tripsin said:

I've already explained this back in the last page.

1 Timothy 2;5

heis - one. gar - indeed. Theos - God. = Indeed, One God.

heis - one. kai - also (in this context). mesites - mediator Theou - God kai - and (in this context) anthropon - mankind. = Also one Mediator (no conjunction in greek) God and Mankind. No conjunction means we take the meaning of the noun beforehand. the noun before hand means 'go-between'. Therefore the best course of grammar is 'mediator between', or else to write simply one 'go-between'.

anthropos - man. Christos - Christ. lesous - Jesus

Indeed, One God. Also, one go-between God and Mankind - man Jesus Christ.#

Indeed there is One God, and also one mediator between God and Mankind - the man Jesus Christ.

It really isn't significant whether it's 'between' or 'of'. It means exactly the same thing.

Similarly, in Luke 18:19, the word used for good, is 'agathon', the form of the word that applies solely to God. It is more inherent of our translation 'great'. It is 'intrinsic goodness', 'nobility' the quality only God possesses, that which God gives or 'empowers'.

The 'good' used in other ways, denoting humanity, has another word. When Jesus says 'I am the good sheperd', the word for good is kalos. And really, ask a greek. It doesn't mean 'good', it means 'worthy'.

There's a modern greek term like it. 'K'alos k'agathos' - the worthy and the noble.

alexis · Dec 5, 2013

Josh321 said:

Jesus did speak of love... Even loving your enemy. This is the key point
you will gain many followers walking in love!
For the record I love you all,
lexi

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Josh321 said:

Josh, I'm not that much older than you............ im actually 23, but my profile says 27 not sure whats going on there, but...

i neva said that God is not a God of love, but if u want to go around only preaching Love and no judgement, then how are you any different from the pharisees? They did the same thing. in fact they were obsessed with money

And guess what

Jesus told them in Matthew, wait...

"you are too focused on tithes, but you err on other matters of the law: judgement, mercy, faith".............

too easy, too soft, too many excuses that is what is wrong with the Church. we supposed to be the gatekeepers of this world. the light. You can't just ignore the whole Old Testament....... you going to have to ignore what Jesus did in the Gospels, because clearly Jesus has an axe to grind with sinners....... Jesus did not go around shaking people's hands and smiling and patting their egos, he spoke Truth.

And by Heaven, when God talks aren't we supposed to listen?

So you tell me why people get so upset when we say something like "The homosexuals are going to hell if they don't repent, stop being gay and follow Jesus"? Really, how is that any different from what all the Apostles and Jesus were saying? You tell me. What new gospel message are you trying to tell me about?

RuthHannah · Dec 5, 2013

Josh321 said:

Did Jesus tell people they will go to hell Did john the Baptise tell people the same ?

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

Maitreya said:

lol dude, u dont know greek i can just tell............. but even if u want to........ its lyk a second language/third level............ stick to english, u just end up sounding like a lawyer that talks around circles really just says nothing trying to sound clever [:

the majority of us speak english........ u obviously only use greek to make up for what u lack

a saving knowledge of the Bible.

as I told u, u worship a devil. maitreya is a demon spirit not our God.

cfultz3 · Dec 5, 2013

Maitreya said:

But Mathew 5:45 (and others, I am sure) uses 'agathon' also to speak of people:

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Pilgrim-Progress · Dec 5, 2013

alexis said:

ye doh, that's the whole point we preach the Gospel. its a message of love

if sum1 is dying and u help save them............ lexi, u would call that hatred from what I understand....... ur whole way of looking at the bible

im all for praying for our enemies, thats why I also preach to them

also, lexi, u dont understand the bible

Jesus started by saying REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND.

So, Lexi, I know u don't know what the Gospel is......

u just a back-slidden sinner making excuses for her sins...... and that dont get u into heaven. it lead a lot of people straight to hell with u

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