There Are Many Scriptures That Disprove The Trinity

[RuthHannah]

[h=3]Hebrews 6[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

 

[alexis]

Jesus promised love and salvation and spoke against sin but not the sinner. There are many verses where he forgives sin, stops people from judging sinners.

Please consider that yes a sinner must repent but by telling them they are horrible and going to hell you accomplish nothing.

Christ saved people with love and told us to do the same. Never did He to my knowledge save anyone through insults and mean words. His message was love even love your enemies.

 

[RuthHannah]

Matthew 23:23

King James Version (KJV)

1 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone

 

[Josh321]

Jesus promised love and salvation and spoke against sin but not the sinner. There are many verses where he forgives sin, stops people from judging sinners.

Please consider that yes a sinner must repent but by telling them they are horrible and going to hell you accomplish nothing.

Christ saved people with love and told us to do the same. Never did He to my knowledge save anyone through insults and mean words. His message was love even love your enemies.

that person is a make belief christian.. like seriously the most promoted thing to do is love he was doing the complete opposite

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Did Jesus tell people they will go to hell Did john the Baptise tell people the same ?

Have you lost your mind?
Do you even know what kind of lifestyle the Baptist lived laughing me on the floor rolling......

no way

he ate locusts and honey

u can already tell this is a hectic dude

LOL

and he got his head chopped off

RuthHannah sorry ur love only gospel is the gospel of satan not Jesus............... u don't get ppl to stop sinning by pandering and petting them on the back...

Even as a women u must put ur foot down with sin. Especially as a women. U have to put ur foot down with ur own sin first tho. U cant go around telling ppl what the gospel is, if u are constantly making excuses for urself to sin.

So u c u have to get right with God first.

But back to the point. lol. wow funny, but John was not a nancy panzy... he was a real man. And u ought to encourage the men around u to learn from His example

Remember, he prepared THE WAY......... very important..... his lifestyle........ his manner.......... not just loving, judgemental too

lol and its just rediculous but John the Baptist told the king and queen of the land that they were sinners just like I am telling some of you now

And he got his head cut off for that

So, again u clearly are in the wrong. And as someone searching you should understand that.

 

[Maitreya]

"and they were cut to the heart"

The gospel isn't for sissies dude. Don't get me wrong though. I'm not trying to rile up your feathers. Seems like you think I'm out for a fight or something.

Let me ask you a question, when has the Gospel ever not been a heavy message? Why did people throw stones at Jesus? I mean, come on get serious. You telling me that Jesus is some nancy panzy that walks around on His toes. flip people this is the Messiah Son of God, the Saviour of the World.

but ye u welcome to exit, my concern is the souls of sinners, not the ah... states of their egos or whatever. if u think im trying 2 be all proud and stuff, then mb ur proud. but i am definitely proud of Jesus and what He stood for......

Neither was he a strife-stirrer that threw accusations at every single person around him, and nor did the man teach us to be so. You are not him, regardless of what Jesus was, anyway. So what gives you the right to talk down to us as i nyour manner, as though you have authority?

the verse you posted 'and they were cut to the heart', is just as though you've confirmed your own ignorance. That verse talks about how Pharisees judged and persecuted everyone who came with compassionate hearts before Jesus, and then slaughtered Jesus himself. Where is your compassion, understanding or wisdom? All you've done is throw accusations around.

Do you really think that causing outright conflict, puffing yourself up and behaving increasingly arrogant is in any way making you look like some 'prophet' and us the pharisees, being 'cut to the bone'? Your inability to listen, or to hear, or even try to comprehend anything I or anyone else has to say without hastily replying, completely negates any authority that you think that you might have over us. If you have no respect, you shall receive no respect.

No, I don't particularly believe Jesus was a 'nancy-panzy' boy as you put it, but since we're on the subject, since when was he an egotist as you portray? Cause clearly, you seem to think you have all the answers.

You need to take a stark look at your motives rather than thinking we'll just look at you at face value. What exactly IS your motive for what you're saying? It feels to me like you're just out to be bigger, broader and quicker than everyone else.

 

[Maitreya]

But Mathew 5:45 (and others, I am sure) uses 'agathon' also to speak of people:

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

I stand corrected on that point.

 

[RuthHannah]

Have you lost your mind?
Do you even know what kind of lifestyle the Baptist lived laughing me on the floor rolling......

no way

he ate locusts and honey

u can already tell this is a hectic dude

LOL

and he got his head chopped off

RuthHannah sorry ur love only gospel is the gospel of satan not Jesus............... u don't get ppl to stop sinning by pandering and petting them on the back...

Even as a women u must put ur foot down with sin. Especially as a women. U have to put ur foot down with ur own sin first tho. U cant go around telling ppl what the gospel is, if u are constantly making excuses for urself to sin.

So u c u have to get right with God first.

But back to the point. lol. wow funny, but John was not a nancy panzy... he was a real man. And u ought to encourage the men around u to learn from His example

Remember, he prepared THE WAY......... very important..... his lifestyle........ his manner.......... not just loving, judgemental too

lol and its just rediculous but John the Baptist told the king and queen of the land that they were sinners just like I am telling some of you now

And he got his head cut off for that

So, again u clearly are in the wrong. And as someone searching you should understand that.

Matthew 3:7But when he (John ) saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

 

[RuthHannah]

Have you lost your mind?
Do you even know what kind of lifestyle the Baptist lived laughing me on the floor rolling......

no way


he ate locusts and honey

u can already tell this is a hectic dude

LOL

and he got his head chopped off

RuthHannah sorry ur love only gospel is the gospel of satan not Jesus............... u don't get ppl to stop sinning by pandering and petting them on the back...

Even as a women u must put ur foot down with sin. Especially as a women. U have to put ur foot down with ur own sin first tho. U cant go around telling ppl what the gospel is, if u are constantly making excuses for urself to sin.

So u c u have to get right with God first.

But back to the point. lol. wow funny, but John was not a nancy panzy... he was a real man. And u ought to encourage the men around u to learn from His example

Remember, he prepared THE WAY......... very important..... his lifestyle........ his manner.......... not just loving, judgemental too

lol and its just rediculous but John the Baptist told the king and queen of the land that they were sinners just like I am telling some of you now

And he got his head cut off for that

So, again u clearly are in the wrong. And as someone searching you should understand that.

It seems you misunderstood me Jesus and John spoke about people goin to hell if they dont repent that was the point
what were you reading seriously

 

[Maitreya]

Josh, I'm not that much older than you............ im actually 23, but my profile says 27 not sure whats going on there, but...

i neva said that God is not a God of love, but if u want to go around only preaching Love and no judgement, then how are you any different from the pharisees? They did the same thing. in fact they were obsessed with money

And guess what

Jesus told them in Matthew, wait...

"you are too focused on tithes, but you err on other matters of the law: judgement, mercy, faith".............

too easy, too soft, too many excuses that is what is wrong with the Church. we supposed to be the gatekeepers of this world. the light. You can't just ignore the whole Old Testament....... you going to have to ignore what Jesus did in the Gospels, because clearly Jesus has an axe to grind with sinners....... Jesus did not go around shaking people's hands and smiling and patting their egos, he spoke Truth.

And by Heaven, when God talks aren't we supposed to listen?

So you tell me why people get so upset when we say something like "The homosexuals are going to hell if they don't repent, stop being gay and follow Jesus"? Really, how is that any different from what all the Apostles and Jesus were saying? You tell me. What new gospel message are you trying to tell me about?

What are you talking about?

The pharisees gave more speeches on judgement than love. They persecuted people, they gave weight to tiny things. The pharisees were the ones who wanted to stone the adulterous woman, give out harsh penalties.

It was Jesus who forgave her.

 

[RuthHannah]

Have you lost your mind?
Do you even know what kind of lifestyle the Baptist lived laughing me on the floor rolling......

no way

he ate locusts and honey

u can already tell this is a hectic dude

LOL

and he got his head chopped off

RuthHannah sorry ur love only gospel is the gospel of satan not Jesus............... u don't get ppl to stop sinning by pandering and petting them on the back...

Even as a women u must put ur foot down with sin. Especially as a women. U have to put ur foot down with ur own sin first tho. U cant go around telling ppl what the gospel is, if u are constantly making excuses for urself to sin.

So u c u have to get right with God first.

But back to the point. lol. wow funny, but John was not a nancy panzy... he was a real man. And u ought to encourage the men around u to learn from His example

Remember, he prepared THE WAY......... very important..... his lifestyle........ his manner.......... not just loving, judgemental too

lol and its just rediculous but John the Baptist told the king and queen of the land that they were sinners just like I am telling some of you now

And he got his head cut off for that

So, again u clearly are in the wrong. And as someone searching you should understand that.

[h=3]Proverbs 15[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Hebrews 6

King James Version (KJV)

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

oh man lol what about baptisms, laying on of hands and the biggest one.......

resurrection of the dead? lol

no wonder ppl r so confused

its like ppl who started giving their children up for abortion because Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac, they just make any passage of scripture say whatever they want.

But, RuthHannah, I know what Paul was saying. And he would probably have told you to keep your mouth and just listen. Don't teach, because you would just lead people astray and that's a serious issue.......

You see...... paul wanted us to learn the milk the basics, and not keep on falling into heresies.......... so we can mature and eat the meat, and have the Holy Ghost and be mature in Christ.......

This in no way implies that we stop preaching hell fire

resurrection

baptisms

laying on of hands

RuthHannah, if you were to start a church with that belief in your heart you would destroy many people's faith in Jesus

 

[alexis]

Pilgrim I will pray for you to find God's love and kindness in his teachings. I stand up against sin. In doing so I must also say it is sinful of you to state that Jesus did not teach us to love. Read Matthew he speaks of loving everyone even your enemies. If you say it is sinful to follow that which He commanded, you are speaking in direct contradiction to the teachings of God. That is sin.

I am not judging you but plain and simple take everything Jesus said and you will see love was the overall strongest message. It is thinking that we must fight against sin that causes war. The only thing that overcomes sin is love.- there is actual scripture that says that in a better way.. Bonus points to anyone who knows it and shares it.

Even though you may not like me or what I say, know I love you. I also love your passion for God. I simply hope you find that love is stronger than fear or punishment.

God so lived us that he gave His son to die so we may live... Love overcoming sins of the entire world.

 

[RuthHannah]

Have you lost your mind?
Do you even know what kind of lifestyle the Baptist lived laughing me on the floor rolling......

no way

he ate locusts and honey

u can already tell this is a hectic dude

LOL

and he got his head chopped off

RuthHannah sorry ur love only gospel is the gospel of satan not Jesus............... u don't get ppl to stop sinning by pandering and petting them on the back...

Even as a women u must put ur foot down with sin. Especially as a women. U have to put ur foot down with ur own sin first tho. U cant go around telling ppl what the gospel is, if u are constantly making excuses for urself to sin.

So u c u have to get right with God first.

But back to the point. lol. wow funny, but John was not a nancy panzy... he was a real man. And u ought to encourage the men around u to learn from His example

Remember, he prepared THE WAY......... very important..... his lifestyle........ his manner.......... not just loving, judgemental too

lol and its just rediculous but John the Baptist told the king and queen of the land that they were sinners just like I am telling some of you now

And he got his head cut off for that

So, again u clearly are in the wrong. And as someone searching you should understand that.

You donot know how to speak nor reason but make fun at people

Isaiah 50:4The Lord God hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.

 

[RuthHannah]

oh man lol what about baptisms, laying on of hands and the biggest one.......

resurrection of the dead? lol

no wonder ppl r so confused

its like ppl who started giving their children up for abortion because Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac, they just make any passage of scripture say whatever they want.

But, RuthHannah, I know what Paul was saying. And he would probably have told you to keep your mouth and just listen. Don't teach, because you would just lead people astray and that's a serious issue.......

You see...... paul wanted us to learn the milk the basics, and not keep on falling into heresies.......... so we can mature and eat the meat, and have the Holy Ghost and be mature in Christ.......

This in no way implies that we stop preaching hell fire

resurrection

baptisms

laying on of hands

RuthHannah, if you were to start a church with that belief in your heart you would destroy many people's faith in Jesus

as a woman i am not suppose to preach

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

Jesus promised love and salvation and spoke against sin but not the sinner. There are many verses where he forgives sin, stops people from judging sinners.

Please consider that yes a sinner must repent but by telling them they are horrible and going to hell you accomplish nothing.

Christ saved people with love and told us to do the same. Never did He to my knowledge save anyone through insults and mean words. His message was love even love your enemies.

Why did God send a flood and destroy Sodom and Gomorrah sinner?

If someone was dying in a ditch, alexis, you would tell me that I am being hateful for helping them out? Yes you would with your mindset young lady

The truth is that you have a spirit of rebellion and divisiveness..... you need to repent of your sins, and stop preaching excuses excuses

And also, because u r in the heart of sin, u cant go around preaching your Gospel. Get your heart right first young lady

God blesses and curses (operative word "curses") who He wants to, not who you want to alexis.

If you want pave a way for the homos and lesbians to heaven, go straight ahead, but you're leading them all to hell with you. God is not a god of homosexuality. He is a God of righteous judgement. And if that is too much for you, then maybe you need to start reading your Bible for a change.

I am sure there are plenty cob webs that you could write on it with your finger "I been a bad girl"

 

[RuthHannah]

oh man lol what about baptisms, laying on of hands and the biggest one.......

resurrection of the dead? lol

no wonder ppl r so confused

its like ppl who started giving their children up for abortion because Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac, they just make any passage of scripture say whatever they want.

But, RuthHannah, I know what Paul was saying. And he would probably have told you to keep your mouth and just listen. Don't teach, because you would just lead people astray and that's a serious issue.......

You see...... paul wanted us to learn the milk the basics, and not keep on falling into heresies.......... so we can mature and eat the meat, and have the Holy Ghost and be mature in Christ.......

This in no way implies that we stop preaching hell fire

resurrection

baptisms

laying on of hands

RuthHannah, if you were to start a church with that belief in your heart you would destroy many people's faith in Jesus

Always remeber this


James 2:13For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; andmercy rejoiceth against judgment.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

as a woman i am not suppose to preach

What? Just another excuse for you to hide the truth from people headed to hell? Or do you want to lead people to the Father, to life? How long do you think your message of do whatever you want it doesn't matter you still go to heaven works? How many more people have to ruin their lives, get STD's, become drugs addicts before you realise that you are just teaching people to be irresponsible little snot nosed brats that have no morality and no values?

 

[RuthHannah]

Why did God send a flood and destroy Sodom and Gomorrah sinner?

If someone was dying in a ditch, alexis, you would tell me that I am being hateful for helping them out? Yes you would with your mindset young lady

The truth is that you have a spirit of rebellion and divisiveness..... you need to repent of your sins, and stop preaching excuses excuses

And also, because u r in the heart of sin, u cant go around preaching your Gospel. Get your heart right first young lady

God blesses and curses (operative word "curses") who He wants to, not who you want to alexis.

If you want pave a way for the homos and lesbians to heaven, go straight ahead, but you're leading them all to hell with you. God is not a god of homosexuality. He is a God of righteous judgement. And if that is too much for you, then maybe you need to start reading your Bible for a change.

I am sure there are plenty cob webs that you could write on it with your finger "I been a bad girl"

Isaiah 1

10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

 

[Pilgrim-Progress]

You donot know how to speak nor reason but make fun at people

Isaiah 50:4The Lord God hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.

Your focus is totally personal. Only a sinful heart becomes like. If you were earnest about your walk, you would actually listen to what I was saying, but you talk to me like I am a man of sin, like u want to encourage me to not take the faith seriously. I am telling u straight up that the Baptist would rebuke u for telling ppl hide the truth of the Gospel, that many ppl r going 2 hell. U need 2 wake up. Stop focusing on the man of flesh............. Jesus rebuked His disciples for that. I am sure that u r just being bitter for being corrected. u need to repent, not fight with me woman.