Do we have the power to do miracles?
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Since when have men been the yardstick by which you assess everything? I thought that it was the word of God, yet you are elevating the experience of a few people as having more authority than the Word of God and God himself.
It says that by their fruit you shall know them. Are you so devoid of discernment that you cannot tell the true from the false?
It also says that you cannot deceive the elect. Perhaps you are not one of God's elect.
It says that by their fruit you shall know them. Are you so devoid of discernment that you cannot tell the true from the false?
It also says that you cannot deceive the elect. Perhaps you are not one of God's elect.
Many posts are putting God on trial in the forum. Men do not have authority to work miracles, Yahweh works through men who avail themselves to Him to serve Him.
I know of true miracles through servants of the Most High God, and I can say, God is not a side show, and no study or amalgamation of examples of miracles will ever exceed the authority of the Word. Our Father is not to be meddled with; He is to be heard and believed. Anyone seeking a sign will receive the sign of Jonah, while the faithful will see many signs and wonders. The difference is accusation by insinuation verses the truly faithful.
I know of true miracles through servants of the Most High God, and I can say, God is not a side show, and no study or amalgamation of examples of miracles will ever exceed the authority of the Word. Our Father is not to be meddled with; He is to be heard and believed. Anyone seeking a sign will receive the sign of Jonah, while the faithful will see many signs and wonders. The difference is accusation by insinuation verses the truly faithful.
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The Bible says all things are possible with God. And healing in Christ name is certainly possible. Yes you can heal in Christ name.
I would study more about it from The Bible its self. I know one thing that is requires is faith. How far are you willing to go to heal some one ? And is what you want to accomplish going to be in line with God's will ?
My opinion, is that we have to factor in things like faith and God's will even when healing. But I'm sure faith is important with Action. God can tell who is playing games and who means business.
I would be familiar with God's word so you do things God's way; even if your intentions are good, we got to know what His words teach. And do things in accord to His word.
I would study more about it from The Bible its self. I know one thing that is requires is faith. How far are you willing to go to heal some one ? And is what you want to accomplish going to be in line with God's will ?
My opinion, is that we have to factor in things like faith and God's will even when healing. But I'm sure faith is important with Action. God can tell who is playing games and who means business.
I would be familiar with God's word so you do things God's way; even if your intentions are good, we got to know what His words teach. And do things in accord to His word.
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Thanks Rog, for showing us your true colors. You're like Zone, who demands 'documentation' but when offered it turns it down in a smarmy manner. My sister-in-law, if you would have cared to read the info, was healed of a fatal cancer. We came very close to losing her and I don't appreciate your mocking that.
But I appreciate you showing your true heart on the matter. That is exactly why you will never see a miracle.
Matthew 13:58 And He did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith says all you need to know. Except that lack of faith often pairs with a lack of heart.
But I appreciate you showing your true heart on the matter. That is exactly why you will never see a miracle.
Matthew 13:58 And He did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith says all you need to know. Except that lack of faith often pairs with a lack of heart.
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'Lack of miracles' can be a test of faith. But what's the right answer to that test? To stop believing? Is that what Job did? And there are two facets to faith. One is believing in Jesus; the other is believing in His ability to 'do so'. How many times did people come to Him, believing in Him, and He asked nonetheless do you believe that I can 'do so'? One can believe in Him, but not believe He can 'do so'. They are believers who have been de-powered by a lie.
The thing about blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed is that far far too many claim to have not seen, and therefore don't believe. And true not everyone is healed, in the history of the world it's a tiny miniscule percentage. And most of those who were healed went on to die later anyway. Paul was not healed yet he believed and partnered. I have a number of conditions I'd like to be rid of, but I'm still willing if the Spirit moves to lay my hand on the shoulder of someone suffering, and let the Holy Spirit minister to them thru me. That's what it's all about, not emptying hospitals, but extending God's grace where it's needed.
But I was meditating on that the other night, seeking the Lord on why we aren't emptying hospitals like the cessations love to point out. What came back to me was, "If all My people believed we could, we would".
Matthew 13:58 And He did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith
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The thing about blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed is that far far too many claim to have not seen, and therefore don't believe. And true not everyone is healed, in the history of the world it's a tiny miniscule percentage. And most of those who were healed went on to die later anyway. Paul was not healed yet he believed and partnered. I have a number of conditions I'd like to be rid of, but I'm still willing if the Spirit moves to lay my hand on the shoulder of someone suffering, and let the Holy Spirit minister to them thru me. That's what it's all about, not emptying hospitals, but extending God's grace where it's needed.
But I was meditating on that the other night, seeking the Lord on why we aren't emptying hospitals like the cessations love to point out. What came back to me was, "If all My people believed we could, we would".
Matthew 13:58 And He did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith
Know it
Learn it
Live it.
My point was that in the absence of miracles, a person relies solely on faith. By faith Noah built the ark, Abraham offered Issac, etc. A miracle is proof of a supernatural occurrence, you don't need faith in the presence of physical evidence. Faith is the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). When something is proven, there's no necessity for faith. So my point was that our faith is not tested by seeing, but by believing the word of God. If a person prays for a healing that never comes, but yet continues to believe, that's faith.
I mention this only because many people get disheartened when they're constantly told that they can receive a healing if they only have faith. But that's not necessarily true. Nothing wrong with praying for help, but as with the apostle Paul, the answer is often "No". As you implied, if every Christian who ever asked for a healing received it, no one would ever die.
I mention this only because many people get disheartened when they're constantly told that they can receive a healing if they only have faith. But that's not necessarily true. Nothing wrong with praying for help, but as with the apostle Paul, the answer is often "No". As you implied, if every Christian who ever asked for a healing received it, no one would ever die.
Only the word of God is reliable in Spiritual matters. For every example of healing there are examples of God allowing His saints to suffer.
God gifts healing to whosoever He willeth. God gifts suffering to whosoever He willeth. God is free to be God. God is Almighty and there is none that can withstand Him. You will never find God to be capricious.
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Roger
God gifts healing to whosoever He willeth. God gifts suffering to whosoever He willeth. God is free to be God. God is Almighty and there is none that can withstand Him. You will never find God to be capricious.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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You are so correct in depicting the larger than life power and love of God. It has always been that the mainstream church puts down, banishes, burns at the stake those who show the greatest possibility for miracles and prophecies. The church denies the very best within them, just as they did Christ himself, which is why mainstream Christianity remains stuck, un-abled to grow closer to God. The "Good News" is far better than the church teaches. The Bible points it out in many cases but they are blind to it, and when it happens before their eyes they call it the devil. God bless you!
Here is the great problem. The apostate mainline church is cold and dead. The Pentecostal church has gone off in the other direction supposing that zeal and fervor represents the presence of God.
We are to be like Christ. We are to be holy and pure. We are to love the Lord our God with all our strength. We are not to love the world or the things in the world.
Jesus said that Light is come into the world but men loved darkness rather than Light because their deeds are evil. John 3:18-22
For the cause of Christ
Roger
We are to be like Christ. We are to be holy and pure. We are to love the Lord our God with all our strength. We are not to love the world or the things in the world.
Jesus said that Light is come into the world but men loved darkness rather than Light because their deeds are evil. John 3:18-22
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Your statement "the false christ that glows with glory and heals the sick" is impossible according to Jesus in the gospel of Mark 3, 22-29.
22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
What Jesus is saying here is that the devil (as you say) cannot turn against himself. He cannot throw himself out; that is, throw out evil spirits, disease, sickness, etc—HE CAN'T HEAL THE SICK BECAUSE HE IS THAT VERY THING! And in 29 Jesus is very clear that with the Holy Ghost you can, and those who don't believe and speak against it are "in danger of eternal damnation".
Believe it! God is all powerful!
22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
What Jesus is saying here is that the devil (as you say) cannot turn against himself. He cannot throw himself out; that is, throw out evil spirits, disease, sickness, etc—HE CAN'T HEAL THE SICK BECAUSE HE IS THAT VERY THING! And in 29 Jesus is very clear that with the Holy Ghost you can, and those who don't believe and speak against it are "in danger of eternal damnation".
Believe it! God is all powerful!
Won't get swept away from winds of doctrines Roger....firmly on the rock. However, I have been in the rapids of Holy Spirit...blew me back about 10 feet in the natural. All I saw was being in the river. Someone had there hand on my arm and went with me. And all I could do was laugh....was so great!
I want to do it again...but I don't think it is for everyday life. Or maybe it is.
Remember the heights in Ezekiel? Waters to swim in...
I want to do it again...but I don't think it is for everyday life. Or maybe it is.
Remember the heights in Ezekiel? Waters to swim in...
And why is that? I did not know that old age was a disease. I thought it was the fact that you had been around for a long time and death in all its forms was the physical faculties deciding to go on strike.
The real thing is that we have overcome death through the cross which means our spirit lives on even though the physical ceases to function. That is the more important consideration because it mean eternal life.
The real thing is that we have overcome death through the cross which means our spirit lives on even though the physical ceases to function. That is the more important consideration because it mean eternal life.