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Nick1939

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LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

I Wonder With SO Many Evidence ,Why Still Don't Get It; Who Said LET " US " And To Whom Does It Apply , With NO
Assumptions Whatsoever I Will Let The Scriptures Explain That. ( Not Unto The Angels , But Unto The ONLY BEGOTTEN
SON Of GOD By Whom GOD Made The Worlds, Or Ages ). Gen 1:26 And GOD Said Let US Make Man In Our Image
After OUR Likeness ;
We Know That GOD The Father Said That, But To Whom He Said That Is NOT Clear , So We Need To Move On To Other
Scriptures To Explain Who He Was Talking To,
Prov 8:22-30 V.22 The Lord POSSESSED ME,In The BIGINNING Of His Way, Before His Works Of OLD, V,23 I Was
Set Up From EVERLASTING, From The BEGINNING ,Or Ever The EARTH Was, V,24 When There Were NO DEPTHS I Was
BROUGHT FORTH,e,t,c, V, 30 I Was By Him, ARRANGING ALL THINGS,(Septuagint Trans ) Then Became I BESIDE Him,
A Firm And Sure Worker, ( Rotherham Transl ) I Together With Him Was Establishing Them ( George Lamsa Tran ) I Was
By His SIDE A Master Craftsman ( Jerusalem Bible )...
But Even So Still Don't Identify Who Was This Master Worker With Him, Not Until We Go To The NEW Testament Which
Sow Forth The Truth In Question.
John 1:1-3 In The Beginning Was The Word,And The Word Was WITH GOD,V,2 The Same Was In The Beginning WITH
GOD.V,3 ALL Things Were Made By Him And Without Him Nothing Was Made That Was Made,In Him Was Life And The
Life Was The Light Of Men...
Now That We Have The Light Lets See Farther Verification Who Is The Beginning, Compare Rev 3:14 Jesus Said I Am
The BEGINNING Of THE CREATION Of GOD,,,,,
Col 1:13-19 He Is The Image Of The Invisible GOD, The First BORN Of ALL CREATION,e,t,c,
Ephes 3:9 Who Created ALL By Jesus Christ.
Heb 1:1-4 By Whom Also He Made The Ages,etc.
To Top All The Above Jesus Puts An END To The Argument . John 5:19-20 V, 19 Verily Verily, I Say Unto You, The SON
Can Do NOTHING Of Himself, But What He Seeth The Father DO; For Whatever Things He Doeth ,These Also The Doeth
The SON,V,20 For The Father Loveth The SON And Showeth Him ALL Things That He Himself Does ; And He Will Show
Him Greater Works Than These, That Ye May Marvel .
John 17:3-5 V,3 And THIS IS LIFE ETERNAL, That They Might Know THEE, The ONLY TRUE GOD, And Jesus Christ Whom
THOU HAS SENT. V, 5 And Now O Father, Glorify Thou ME With Thine OWN Self,With The Glory Which I HAD WITH THEE
BEFORE THE WORLD WAS,.........
Now Who Was Saying, And To Whom In Gen 1:26 Let "US" Make Man After OUR Image ,After Our Own Likeness?
I Think The Above Scriptures Are Self Explained . I Just Want To Know What They Say To You ALL. Because Your
Eternal LIFE Is On The LINE.... God Bless.....
 
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chubbena

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

All I know is, men returned the favor by making god in their image....well, I stole this from someone on the internet...
 

starfield

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

I Wonder With SO Many Evidence ,Why Still Don't Get It; Who Said LET " US " And To Whom Does It Apply , With NO
Assumptions Whatsoever I Will Let The Scriptures Explain That. ( Not Unto The Angels , But Unto The ONLY BEGOTTEN
SON Of GOD By Whom GOD Made The Worlds, Or Ages ). Gen 1:26 And GOD Said Let US Make Man In Our Image
After OUR Likeness ;
We Know That GOD The Father Said That, But To Whom He Said That Is NOT Clear , So We Need To Move On To Other
Scriptures To Explain Who He Was Talking To,
Prov 8:22-30 V.22 The Lord POSSESSED ME,In The BIGINNING Of His Way, Before His Works Of OLD, V,23 I Was
Set Up From EVERLASTING, From The BEGINNING ,Or Ever The EARTH Was, V,24 When There Were NO DEPTHS I Was
BROUGHT FORTH,e,t,c, V, 30 I Was By Him, ARRANGING ALL THINGS,(Septuagint Trans ) Then Became I BESIDE Him,
A Firm And Sure Worker, ( Rotherham Transl ) I Together With Him Was Establishing Them ( George Lamsa Tran ) I Was
By His SIDE A Master Craftsman ( Jerusalem Bible )...

But Even So Still Don't Identify Who Was This Master Worker With Him, Not Until We Go To The NEW Testament Which
Sow Forth The Truth In Question.
John 1:1-3 In The Beginning Was The Word,And The Word Was WITH GOD,V,2 The Same Was In The Beginning WITH
GOD.V,3 ALL Things Were Made By Him And Without Him Nothing Was Made That Was Made,In Him Was Life And The
Life Was The Light Of Men...
Now That We Have The Light Lets See Farther Verification Who Is The Beginning, Compare Rev 3:14 Jesus Said I Am
The BEGINNING Of THE CREATION Of GOD,,,,,
Col 1:13-19 He Is The Image Of The Invisible GOD, The First BORN Of ALL CREATION,e,t,c,
Ephes 3:9 Who Created ALL By Jesus Christ.
Heb 1:1-4 By Whom Also He Made The Ages,etc.
To Top All The Above Jesus Puts An END To The Argument . John 5:19-20 V, 19 Verily Verily, I Say Unto You, The SON
Can Do NOTHING Of Himself, But What He Seeth The Father DO; For Whatever Things He Doeth ,These Also The Doeth
The SON,V,20 For The Father Loveth The SON And Showeth Him ALL Things That He Himself Does ; And He Will Show
Him Greater Works Than These, That Ye May Marvel .
John 17:3-5 V,3 And THIS IS LIFE ETERNAL, That They Might Know THEE, The ONLY TRUE GOD, And Jesus Christ Whom
THOU HAS SENT. V, 5 And Now O Father, Glorify Thou ME With Thine OWN Self,With The Glory Which I HAD WITH THEE
BEFORE THE WORLD WAS,.........
Now Who Was Saying, And To Whom In Gen 1:26 Let "US" Make Man After OUR Image ,After Our Own Likeness?
I Think The Above Scriptures Are Self Explained . I Just Want To Know What They Say To You ALL. Because Your
Eternal LIFE Is On The LINE.... God Bless.....
Jehovah's Witnesses quote Proverbs 8:22-30 to support their heretical belief that Jesus is a created being. However, examining the context, it isn't referring to Jesus but rather "wisdom" personified. God used wisdom in the beginning to create the world.
 
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Nick1939

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

Jehovah's Witnesses quote Proverbs 8:22-30 to support their heretical belief that Jesus is a created being. However, examining the context, it isn't referring to Jesus but rather "wisdom" personified. God used wisdom in the beginning to create the world.
So What You Are Saying Is That GOD Had NO Wisdom Before The Beginning? Because The Scriptures Say The LORD Possessed Me
In The Beginning Of His Way, How SO ? Please Explain In Consideration Of 1 Cor 1:24 But Unto Them Who Are Called, Both Jews And Greeks, CHRIST The Power Of GOD, AND THE WISDOM Of GOD.; Maybe The Jw Are Right On This Subject..
Now I Wonder More Than Before,Why He Possessed At The Beginning Of Creation While He Had It All Along;...
 
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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

So What You Are Saying Is That GOD Had NO Wisdom Before The Beginning? Because The Scriptures Say The LORD Possessed Me
In The Beginning Of His Way, How SO ? Please Explain In Consideration Of 1 Cor 1:24 But Unto Them Who Are Called, Both Jews And Greeks, CHRIST The Power Of GOD, AND THE WISDOM Of GOD.; Maybe The Jw Are Right On This Subject..
Now I Wonder More Than Before,Why He Possessed At The Beginning Of Creation While He Had It All Along;...
All things were created by him and for him---->Jesus is the one who created all things, by the power and authority from the Heavenly Father as the Spirit brings life. Jesus (sustains) all things by the word of His power.

Wisdom-->is the proper application of knowledge....

Just as a machinist would use blue prints, years of experience and material to machine canopy latches for F-16 Jet Fighters by applying the knowledge that they have---->wisdom is the proper application of knowledge.

Jesus created all things by applying the knowledge that he has (infinite) which is wisdom.
 
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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

One would have a major paradox on their hands, as to say that Jesus is a created being.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Now, how can the one that created, be a created being ... thus the paradox.


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God = Jesus!
 
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Nick1939

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

All things were created by him and for him---->Jesus is the one who created all things, by the power and authority from the Heavenly Father as the Spirit brings life. Jesus (sustains) all things by the word of His power.

Wisdom-->is the proper application of knowledge....

Just as a machinist would use blue prints, years of experience and material to machine canopy latches for F-16 Jet Fighters by applying the knowledge that they have---->wisdom is the proper application of knowledge.

Jesus created all things by applying the knowledge that he has (infinite) which is wisdom.
Dcontroversal ,Remember Also The Father Will Show Him Greater Works Than These John 5:20. But Be Careful You Might Be Called Jw,.. God Bless..
 
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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

Dcontroversal ,Remember Also The Father Will Show Him Greater Works Than These John 5:20. But Be Careful You Might Be Called Jw,.. God Bless..
Well I am no J.W. I can tell ya and (WE) only have to please one and it isn't anybody on this planet or in CC...:)
 
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Nick1939

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

One would have a major paradox on their hands, as to say that Jesus is a created being.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Now, how can the one that created, be a created being ... thus the paradox.


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God = Jesus!
So Now We Have To Do Away With GOD ,And Have Jesus Standing ALONE,? So What Do We Have Now, Singular ,Plural, Or
Even Dwinity , You Are A Created Being, Don't You Create Things?...
 

gzusfrk

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

The Word was in the beginning with God, but it had yet to become flesh, yet for God perhaps seeing as He does from beginning to end, Jesus was there with God, dont really know, But I do know every thing was made through the Word, which I think was the first creation of God. Revelations 3:14. Jesus is the Word of God Revelation 19:13
 

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

All things were created by him and for him---->Jesus is the one who created all things, by the power and authority from the Heavenly Father as the Spirit brings life. Jesus (sustains) all things by the word of His power.

Wisdom-->is the proper application of knowledge....

Just as a machinist would use blue prints, years of experience and material to machine canopy latches for F-16 Jet Fighters by applying the knowledge that they have---->wisdom is the proper application of knowledge.

Jesus created all things by applying the knowledge that he has (infinite) which is wisdom.
I would suggest that in the context of James 1:5, true wisdom is the revealed application of human experience.
 
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Nick1939

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

Well I am no J.W. I can tell ya and (WE) only have to please one and it isn't anybody on this planet or in CC...:)
Very Good Neither Am I, But They Call Me Anyway To Find False , Because They Can Not Answer The Scriptures.... I Don't
Try To Please Anybody Neither ,Just What The Scriptures Are Saying, When Jesus Say I Am The BEGINNING Of The Creation Of GOD,I Believe It And I Leave It At That. If Any one Don't Like It, He Will Have To Take That With Him That Saied , I Din't
Wright The Schriptures They Were Written Before I Was born....God Bless...
 
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Nick1939

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

The Word was in the beginning with God, but it had yet to become flesh, yet for God perhaps seeing as He does from beginning to end, Jesus was there with God, dont really know, But I do know every thing was made through the Word, which I think was the first creation of God. Revelations 3:14. Jesus is the Word of God Revelation 19:13
Very Good Stay With It, IT IS WHAT IT IS ,So many Witness Testify To That Truth, I Can NOT Understand How A Proffesed
Christian Would Fight The Truth... God Bless,.....
 

oldhermit

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

The Word was in the beginning with God, but it had yet to become flesh, yet for God perhaps seeing as He does from beginning to end, Jesus was there with God, dont really know, But I do know every thing was made through the Word, which I think was the first creation of God. Revelations 3:14. Jesus is the Word of God Revelation 19:13
Your statement is contradictory. If Jesus was made by the father then everything was not made through the Son.
 
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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

I would suggest that in the context of James 1:5, true wisdom is the revealed application of human experience.
I would agree that the wisdom found in James 1:5 is indicative of the path found in the first 4 verses and is applied in the aspect of understanding the end result of said path....

Many sided trials successfully endured--->which is the testing of our faith--->leads to endurance and experience--->which in turn leads to completeness in Christ---->which in turn fits you out for Christian Service as you will lack nothing.

I suppose at the end of the day the wisdom being sought would allow the person to be wise, allow the person to perceive the path described above and successfully endure such testing so as to mature to the point of being complete and mature in their biblical and godly (human experience)

I will also add the following.....

I would suggest that God has made foolish the wisdom of the world (humanity) and expects us to seek the wisdom which is from above as found in James chapter 3, as describe in the Proverbs etc.

The context of my 1st statement was about Jesus and the creation of the (cosmos) and the biblical Godly wisdom that was applied by God in creation.
 
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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

So Now We Have To Do Away With GOD ,And Have Jesus Standing ALONE,? So What Do We Have Now, Singular ,Plural, Or
Even Dwinity , You Are A Created Being, Don't You Create Things?...
OK heretic, so you believe that Jesus was a created being? You believe that he is NOT God?

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
 

starfield

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

So What You Are Saying Is That GOD Had NO Wisdom Before The Beginning? Because The Scriptures Say The LORD Possessed Me
In The Beginning Of His Way, How SO ? Please Explain In Consideration Of 1 Cor 1:24 But Unto Them Who Are Called, Both Jews And Greeks, CHRIST The Power Of GOD, AND THE WISDOM Of GOD.; Maybe The Jw Are Right On This Subject..
Now I Wonder More Than Before,Why He Possessed At The Beginning Of Creation While He Had It All Along;...
Who is speaking in Proverbs 8? Wisdom is speaking, not Jesus. Besides, references to Jesus are always masculine pronouns. Read the first few verses, Sir:
Proverbs 8:1-3
1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.


 
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chubbena

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

Jehovah's Witnesses quote Proverbs 8:22-30 to support their heretical belief that Jesus is a created being. However, examining the context, it isn't referring to Jesus but rather "wisdom" personified. God used wisdom in the beginning to create the world.
So is wisdom created by God?
 

gzusfrk

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Re: LET &quot; US &quot; MAKE MAN&lt;&lt;&lt; IN OUR IMAGE AfTER OUR LIKENESS, GEN 1:26...

Your statement is contradictory. If Jesus was made by the father then everything was not made through the Son.
Guess I should have said everything but the Word. it would seem John 1:1 is contradictory, since the Word was with God and was God. However John 1:3 says all things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made.