The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

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You have been baptized? By water in immersion in Jesus name? What is the significance of water baptism? Meaning what does it signify? Have you been baptised in the Holy Spirit With the evidence of speaking in New tongues? Ever visit a fortune teller? A medium? attend a seance? Psychic reading? Play the with occult games? Water witch? dabble in any type of the occult witchcraft paranormal studies? Have friends in the occult or who practice witchcraft? Are you born again? YES I insist you answer these in detail please.
Excuse me, but I'm only accountable to my Lord Jesus and Father God, not you.
 
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Seeing how you didn't read it the first time I will post it again....your scriptures do not pass the (smell) test and fall way short of what is required to be biblical...I will even bold it so you can see it a little better!
Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Show me three verses in context that teaches verbatim that the Holy Spirit will be revealed in (orbs) of light with the face of God on them....
And I would like for you to show me 3 verses in context that teaches verbatim that the Holy Spirit will not be revealed in (orbs) of light with the face of God on them....see how unrealistic you are. What I have given you is sufficient. You are not an authority on what's biblical. What I have given you is biblical. I can prove that the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit with ample scripture. Yet you can not even post one verse proving me wrong.
 
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this is an insult to Gods authority!{ the holy spirit is the spirit of God.}. you should fear God! spiritualism is of the devil..
 

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Here is a real photograph of the face of a spirit in a supernatural orb:



AS i said befrore, When I saw this picture first time I did not see anything that resembled a face ,it was only when it was pointed out and a circle put around it, my brain made up a face and yes that pattern resembles a face, but then we are designed to see faces, helps with having to spot predators in jungle etc.


When faced with an unusal picture or optical illusion, our brains simply make assumptions based on our experiences and beliefs, so in case of dust orb that has some pattern on it, those looking for spirits and so on in those orbs will automatically try to detect or spot faces, and this is what we have in the picture in question.

Here we see some clever optical illusions, no use of cgi but our brains are fooled, even when we know what is really going on!

[video=youtube;UelJZG_bF98]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelJZG_bF98[/video]
 
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Here is another artist rendition of Ezekiel's Vision of God showing the orbital wheels:

Orbs in the Holy Bible.
 
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This proves that posthuman has lied about a photograph that I have presented. His credibility is damaged. He is a known liar on this thread.
see post #495, which you buried by respamming the same posts you had already made dozen times previously.


this probably isn't worth the effort, but:
photo forensic ELA tool results: FotoForensics - Analysis

areas of high contrast like edges should have the same brightness level on an ELA reading. note that the circumference of the 'orb' is only visible on the right side in the ELA though clearly an area of high contrast in it's full circle in the original image. this is evidence that it may have been altered, and consistent with layering a low-opacity image of a face on top of the 'orb'

xmas-orb.jpg

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this isn't conclusive but suspicious, and "because random internet guy who writes a paranormal blog says it's legit" isn't conclusive either.

interestingly, the metadata shows the flash was on in this picture. just like in every other picture of dust orbs.
 
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Excuse me, but I'm only accountable to my Lord Jesus and Father God, not you.
In that case you better answer. I charge you in the name of Jesus Christ to answer everyone of those questions. Even ones you have already answered. Do it again.

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been baptized? By water in immersion in Jesus name? What is the significance of water baptism? Meaning what does it signify? Have you been baptised in the Holy Spirit With the evidence of speaking in New tongues? Ever visit a fortune teller? A medium? attend a seance? Psychic reading? Play with occult games? Water witch? dabble in any type of the occult witchcraft paranormal studies? Have friends in the occult or who practice witchcraft? Are you born again? YES I insist you answer these in detail please.
 
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this is an insult to Gods authority!{ the holy spirit is the spirit of God.}. you should fear God! spiritualism is of the devil..
Viewing photographs is not the same as consulting the dead. This is not spiritualism. Viewing and discussing photographs of the Holy Spirit would most certainly not be offensive to God.
 

posthuman

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picture as taken from the paranormal blog whose owner claims it is the ghost of a dead relative and which notforgotten says is the Spirit of the Living God:
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error-level analysis of the same:
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do you see this shape?
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this is consistent with tilting a square, green-tinted image of a face 43* CCW and overlaying it at low opacity on top of the original image.

i'm not a liar. i hate lies. that's why i'm giving your thread so much grief. i don't think it's true.
 
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Viewing photographs is not the same as consulting the dead. This is not spiritualism. Viewing and discussing photographs of the Holy Spirit would most certainly not be offensive to God.
You are still under charge.

[h=2]"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"-God[/h]
[h=2]"Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."-God[/h]
[h=3]Acts 17:29[/h]Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man


[h=3]Deuteronomy 4:16-19[/h]Beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth. And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.


[h=3]Isaiah 42:8[/h]I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
 
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This proves that posthuman has lied about a photograph that I have presented. His credibility is damaged. He is a known liar on this thread.
see post #495, which you buried by respamming the same posts you had already made dozen times previously.
picture as taken from the paranormal blog whose owner claims it is the ghost of a dead relative and which notforgotten says is the Spirit of the Living God:
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error-level analysis of the same:
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do you see this shape?
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this is consistent with tilting a square, green-tinted image of a face 43* CCW and overlaying it at low opacity on top of the original image.

i'm not a liar. i hate lies. that's why i'm giving your thread so much grief. i don't think it's true.
​I said that the orb is the Holy Spirit, not the spirit inside the orb. Try not to be misleading posthuman.
 
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At first posthuman said that this picture was doctored.

this is a doctored photograph. do you know the origin of this photograph?

here is where you got this photograph:
Extremum Spiritum Paranormal Of Southern Illinois - Amazing Paranormal Ghostly Orb Face Caught on Camera

this source says it is the ghost of a family member. is that clear evidence of the working of the Holy Spirit? or clear evidence of the ignorant pseudo-spirituality of an unbelieving world?

why can't you answer my question?
Posthuman, I am the owner of the original photograph in question. The orb photograph has not been "doctored" in any way. This photo was taken by me on Christmas Eve 2012. This photo is in it's original form as it came from the camera. The original photo is filed with my family pictures from Christmas 2012. Now you know the origin of the photo and the person that took the photo. The camera used was a Sony AVCHD HDR CX350V camcorder that takes still shots. I arrived at this website following a pingback through the link to my website posted above.
Then after Extremum Spiritum posts his testimony of the validity of the photograph, posthuman does an amateur photo check and says it's not conclusive. But he told everyone earlier that it was doctored. Extremum Spiritum had no reason to lie. He doesn't know me and has nothing to gain. I suppose posthuman will now try to cover up his lie. His credibility has been tarnished. He is a known liar on this thread.
 
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i don't think it's true.
If you only knew the truth, you would be siding with me in battling lies with the truth. This is what the angels in heaven do.

The Holy Spirit is highly misunderstood in the world today. There is a great deal of lies spread about Him.
 
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You are still under charge.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"-God


"Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."-God


Acts 17:29

Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man


Deuteronomy 4:16-19

Beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth. And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.


Isaiah 42:8

I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
​We have pictures of Jesus and what we believe Father God might look like. Obviously, there is no harm in that. So what would be the harm in having pictures of the Holy Spirit? My Avatar is a real picture of the Holy Spirit. How cool, huh?
 
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So we have the supernatural orb appearing before Ezekiel with Father God and Cherubim as in Ezekiel 1:15-21.

We have seen the supernatural orb descending like a dove as in Mathews 3:16.

Also, hovering like the Spirit of God over the face of the waters as in Genesis 1:2.

And we have seen the supernatural orb bearing witness as the Spirit of truth, as it is written in John 5:6

and glorifying Christ as in John 16:13.


Not at all. In the verses you have referenced, not one has an orb listed. You are simply reading in between the lines and magically assume it means an orb. Total lies and half truths mixed in with full blown distortions. That is all you have have to offer. This thread needs to close.
 
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The supernatural orb is described in the bible. And every time the Holy Spirit is discussed in the bible, the supernatural orb is as well.

Ezekiel Vision of God (artist rendition based on scripture):

Ezekiel 1:16 "a wheel in the middle of a wheel"

What Ezekiel describes as "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" is obviously orbital.


Here is a real photograph of the face of a spirit in a supernatural orb:

Ezekiel 1:21 "for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels"

"for the spirit of the living creature was in the orb"

What Ezekiel saw with Father God and Cherubim (living creatures) was obviously supernatural orbs.


Please note that the Holy Spirit (supernatural orbs) appearing before Ezekiel with Father God and the Cherubim would have appeared much grandeur than the Holy Spirit (orb) in this picture.
 
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Here is more scripture discussing supernatural orbs -
The Holy Spirit Glorifies Christ


Notice how the supernatural orb resembles an eyeball:


1 John 5:6 And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

The photograph above is the Spirit of truth looking directly at the camera man and bearing witness to him taking the photograph.

Romans 9:1 ​I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience bearing witness in the Holy Spirit.


John 16:13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

The Holy Spirit glorifies Christ by bearing witness that we belong to Him and declaring this to the Apostles who sit on the thrones of judgment so that we are not judged and may go unto the Father.

Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
 
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Here is a photograph of the Spirit of God (supernatural orb) hovering over the earth:

Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God (supernatural orb) can just just as easily hover over water.
 
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Notice in this video how the supernatural descends like a dove:
[video=dailymotion;xfp2v1]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfp2v1_best-evidence-of-flying-orbs_news[/video]
Mathew 3:16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.

Please note that this video is merely to demonstrate how the supernatural orb descends like a dove. And please note that the Holy Spirit descending upon our Lord Jesus would have been much more than the Holy Spirit in this video.
 
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Here's another artist rendition of Ezekiel's Vision of God with the orbital wheels:

​Orbs in the bible.