Sinning

[Kerim]

One of the early questions I asked myself is:

“What does the word ‘sinning’ really mean, practically speaking?”

Obviously, the right answer should also give the answer of the question which is related to our present time:

“When or how does a person sin, also practically speaking?”

Thank you.

After hearing you, I will share my answers with you

 

[p_rehbein]

One of the early questions I asked myself is:

“What does the word ‘sinning’ really mean, practically speaking?”

Obviously, the right answer should also give the answer of the question which is related to our present time:

“When or how does a person sin, also practically speaking?”

Thank you.

After hearing you, I will share my answers with you

Naw............you go first............no, really, I insist........

 

[Simiel]

One of the early questions I asked myself is:

“What does the word ‘sinning’ really mean, practically speaking?”

Obviously, the right answer should also give the answer of the question which is related to our present time:

“When or how does a person sin, also practically speaking?”

Thank you.

After hearing you, I will share my answers with you

Fore filling the desires of there flesh. Don't do this and you can be perfect

 

[Kerim]

Naw............you go first............no, really, I insist........

I believe you but it is too late here and I was going to bed.

If you and I will wake up tomorrow, we will have another chance to enjoy hearing each other. Bonne nuit

 

[ji]

One of the early questions I asked myself is:

“What does the word ‘sinning’ really mean, practically speaking?”

Obviously, the right answer should also give the answer of the question which is related to our present time:

“When or how does a person sin, also practically speaking?”

Thank you.

After hearing you, I will share my answers with you

sinning is wronging God.That's a short explanation.
The word sin is only relevant when its related to God,otherwise its got no importance.

Its such a term that makes even a godless person comes back to his/her sense to cry out loud knowing their sinful state when they somehow confront God after many failures.many don't get there,i know..

As 'simiel' put here "Fore filling the desires of there flesh. Don't do this and you can be perfect"

But the second part of his sentence is not easy to accomplish.It requires practice to overcome things in life.
However its the best way to be Prefect,but not according to our terms,but by God's Grace.

Grace of God can uphold us where we fall and make us Grow in Christ gradually to the Day of Perfection..

"in our weakness,HIS STRENGTH is made Perfect"
Also its not a license to sin but anothr opportunity to Overcome it.Look unto Jesus and all problems will be solved

God Bless,nice topic...

 

[crossnote]

Could you repeat the answer?
I didn't hear the question.

 

[RedTent]

We know it isn’t sin that makes it impossible for us to be saved, for over and over scripture tells us we are given forgiveness for sin when we turn our backs on our sin with repentance. We are also told that if we don’t try to live without sin, if we become liars, drunkards, thieves, and such we cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

At the same time, when the Hebrew people were led to their own land to set their own government, they were given special instructions about how to live so they would live with abundance, joy, and contentment.For today, we are told that we must obey those laws in spirit and truth, not by the letter of the law.It is explained that we need to look for the principles behind each law, and know it is love and justice for all that the law tells us about. When we do, we will be called great in the kingdom of heaven, we will be rewarded with fruits of the spirit.

The basis of all law is to love the Lord with all our heart and all our minds.We are to know God created us, we are not our own but we belong to God.When we give ourselves over to God, weare loved with a holy love, and we must know that God gives that same love to all His family, and we are to also give love to our brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[Kerry]

We know it isn’t sin that makes it impossible for us to be saved, for over and over scripture tells us we are given forgiveness for sin when we turn our backs on our sin with repentance. We are also told that if we don’t try to live without sin, if we become liars, drunkards, thieves, and such we cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

At the same time, when the Hebrew people were led to their own land to set their own government, they were given special instructions about how to live so they would live with abundance, joy, and contentment.For today, we are told that we must obey those laws in spirit and truth, not by the letter of the law.It is explained that we need to look for the principles behind each law, and know it is love and justice for all that the law tells us about. When we do, we will be called great in the kingdom of heaven, we will be rewarded with fruits of the spirit.

The basis of all law is to love the Lord with all our heart and all our minds.We are to know God created us, we are not our own but we belong to God.When we give ourselves over to God, weare loved with a holy love, and we must know that God gives that same love to all His family, and we are to also give love to our brothers and sisters in Christ.

Is your eye sight that good, I meant please use at least a 10 font I would rather a 12 font or I just aint gonna read your stuff. maybe thats what your after girl

 

[2Thewaters]

One of the early questions I asked myself is:

“What does the word ‘sinning’ really mean, practically speaking?”

Thank you.

After hearing you, I will share my answers with you

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is breaking the ten commandments.


1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins(commandments breaking); and in him is no sin.
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth (remains in the Bible guidelines of lifestyle)
in him sinneth (breaks no commandments) not:
whosoever sinneth (breaks commandments) hath not seen him, neither known him.


1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness (commandment keeping) is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: f
or all thy commandments are righteousness,
and righteousness is all thy commandment..


Unrighteous will not inhert the kingdom of heaven
righteousness is commandment keeping

commandment breakers will not inherit the kingdom of love


Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.



1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil breaks the ten commandments from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that he might destroy the commandment breaking of the devil.


1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin (breaking commandments);
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God (divine power to keep the commandments).


1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not commandment keeping is not of God,
neither he that loveth not his brother.


1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.


1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.


1 John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. It hates commandment keepers.

 

[2Thewaters]

There is only one definition of sin

Sin is the transgression of the law of God the ten commandments.

thats it
and it is still it.

satn wants us to believe the law is not needed,
satan says
go and sin some more you are going to heaven

and JEsus says
go and sin no more

which God will you hear and obey?

Going against Gods word and doing something else than what God told you to do
sin is the transgressions of the law and the law says
1. Thou shalt have no other Gods before you

a God is ultimate authority.
If God says do "A"
and you do "B"
then your God is not God "A"
It is false God "B"
Blasphemy is not doing what God says because you are following a different God.

sin is breaking the law

there is no other definition in the whole Bible

if the law WERE actually done away with
there would be no more sin
which is rediculous.

 

[Kerry]

There are only two kinds of sin. Sins of pleasure and sins of pride. the sin that God hates most is sin of pride.

 

[Kerim]

Fore filling the desires of there flesh. Don't do this and you can be perfect

And by filling the desire of the flesh, the sin would be against whom?
Thank you.

 

[RedTent]

And by filling the desire of the flesh, the sin would be against whom?
Thank you.

That is quite a question. When the world operates without sin, it is operating for the good of all and expressing love. Everything works at the peak of efficiency for everyone. Sin stops the perfect working of the world and everyone in it suffers. It also requires grace so we can have eternal life. Now! you want to know who the sin is against? The question really doesn't relate.

 

[ForthAngel]

And by filling the desire of the flesh, the sin would be against whom?
Thank you.

Sexual sin is against the holy temple of God, our body. All other sins are outside the body. But ultimately, all sin is rebellion against God. Any command we break convicts us of sin. Without law, there is no guilt for sin. With the law, we are made guilty by sin. Luckily we are free from that law through Christ and dead to sin.

1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

Romans 5
20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5
13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

Romans 7
7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? [SUP]2 [/SUP]For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.



[SUP]4 [/SUP]So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

If we are dead to the law, we are alive in Christ because our sin cannot be counted against us any more. This isn't to say we can just sin all we want. Quite the opposite:

Romans 6
6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

 

[Kerim]

sinning is wronging God.That's a short explanation.
The word sin is only relevant when its related to God,otherwise its got no importance.

Don't you know I personally use hearing these same words from my Muslim friends.

As you know, Muslims 'have' to believe, as they are told, they are slaves of God (or Allah).
Therefore, they have to also believe that if they disobey Allah's commandments (as written on their Quran), they give Allah good reasons to torture them in his eternal hell.

Do you think God, as revealed by Jesus Christ, plays also with us this master/slave game though it is typical in all other religions and beliefs?

If you do, please tell me, by an example, how a man can upset hid Creator? I mean, how a man can control remotely the status of the world's Creator.

For instance, I may have the means to control remotely men's status but I am sorry for not believing that my Creator gave me also any power to control his status as well. But perhaps this powerful gift is given to other men not me.

What do you think?

 

[Kerim]

1 John 3:4, 1 John 3:5, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 3:7, Psa 119:172, Psa 119:142, 1 John 3:8, 1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:10, 1 John 3:11, 1 John, 3:12 1 John 3:13

They are great historical references about the 10 commandments but Jesus Christ talked clearly about the unconditional love towards all others, friends and enemies.

Don't you think, for a person who lives this unconditional love, the 10 commandments are obsolete for him, practically speaking?
You may not understand well my question if you don't know what the unconditional love and care towards others really means.

(Matthew 5:45)
"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."

 

[Kerim]

satn wants us to believe the law is not needed

Do you think there is a law... above the first 'equivalent' two commandments revealed by Jesus Christ?

For instance, it is sad that, in English Gospels, Jesus is presented as commanding to love (God and neighbour).
Fortunately, on my Arabic Gospel, Jesus commandment is translated as an important advice instead that a good loving father gives to his beloved mature son to help him know how to live his father's peace and joy.

On one hand, a man is free to follow any commandments (said of God or men).
On the other hand, only GOD's Love (as revealed by Jesus Christ) is eternal and the person who can live it, joins automatically God's Kingdom... now and for eternity.

In reality, Law and True Love cannot coexist to the same person at the same time.
Law exists always between a master and his salve, while True Love exists between a good loving father and his real son.

Whoever has ears will hear

 

[faroukfarouk]

It's interesting that divine love, the Son of God and eternal blessing to sinners who can have a relationship with God, are linked in John 3.16.

 

[Kerim]

There are only two kinds of sin. Sins of pleasure and sins of pride. the sin that God hates most is sin of pride.

I understand that people could hate other's pride because almost every person is pre-programmed to see himself among the best ones created by God

. Here, the word 'best' may refer to any capacity/character.

I also understand that, in general, people hate seeing others having pleasures mainly the ones not available to all with ease.

Among these people, there are always those who play God's representatives on earth. Naturally, they won't say, as we do, they hate pride and seeing other's pleasures... instead they...

Anyway, I may be wrong in all what I said. In this case I hope you can help me know how men, the tiny powerless creatures, can affect God's feeling/status in his Kingdom by anything wrong they may do on earth, on one of the trillion planets in God's universe...

Thank you.

 

[Wildflower]

In a 'practical' sense sinning is part of a 'state' of being in this flesh, this body of death.

As for 'identity' this speaks of a 'standing' before God, so then we are to see and understand that sin is also a nature, not only 'in' us the creature, but in creation. Sin is a thing as well as an effect, "dead to sin", "sin of the world", "sin came into the world" it was already present in creation, in the heavenly places.

"The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."

reconciliation is a doctrine of our ministry in this dispensation for good reason.

I have been talking about this very thing on FB, I recently joined, do you fb Farouk?