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Absolutely correct.
How can you be commanded to love someone? Love doesn't work that way. We all know that.
But when we are shown love we can't help but to love back. When the Love of God is unveiled to us we can't help but to love Him back.
That is what fulfills the Law. The Love of God.
Everything else is just dirty rags.
How can you be commanded to love someone? Love doesn't work that way. We all know that.
But when we are shown love we can't help but to love back. When the Love of God is unveiled to us we can't help but to love Him back.
That is what fulfills the Law. The Love of God.
Everything else is just dirty rags.
Yep...
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
Mat 13:41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,
Luk 19:15 "And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned ten minas.'
Luk 19:17 And he said to him, 'Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.'
Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned five minas.'
Luk 19:19 Likewise he said to him, 'You also be over five cities.'
Luk 19:20 "Then another came, saying, 'Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief.
Luk 19:21 For I feared you, because you are an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.'
Luk 19:22 And he said to him, 'Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow.
Luk 19:23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?'
Luk 19:24 "And he said to those who stood by, 'Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.'
Luk 19:25 (But they said to him, 'Master, he has ten minas.')
Luk 19:26 'For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
Kinda sounds like there might be something required here more than "Jesus did it all".
Rev 2:11 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death." '
Not "He who does nothing because Crhist did it all."
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Mat 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
Mat 13:41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,
Luk 19:15 "And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned ten minas.'
Luk 19:17 And he said to him, 'Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.'
Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, 'Master, your mina has earned five minas.'
Luk 19:19 Likewise he said to him, 'You also be over five cities.'
Luk 19:20 "Then another came, saying, 'Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief.
Luk 19:21 For I feared you, because you are an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.'
Luk 19:22 And he said to him, 'Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow.
Luk 19:23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?'
Luk 19:24 "And he said to those who stood by, 'Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.'
Luk 19:25 (But they said to him, 'Master, he has ten minas.')
Luk 19:26 'For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
Kinda sounds like there might be something required here more than "Jesus did it all".
Rev 2:11 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death." '
Not "He who does nothing because Crhist did it all."
What Law are we really freed from?
Rom 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
Rom 6:21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
Rom 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
I guess doing away with the Law is one way to deal with sin. No matter what the action, do away with the Law that labels it sin. Presto, no more sin.
Murder a problem in our big cities? Strike the law against murder from the books and presto, murder isn't a problem anymore.
Christ came to change human beings, not the Law. He came to give us the heart to obey Him...
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
It is the carnal mind that is not subject to the Law of God and Paul never describes the solution as doing away with the Law...
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.
What he describes is a change of our nature.
Rom 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
Rom 6:21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.
Rom 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.
I guess doing away with the Law is one way to deal with sin. No matter what the action, do away with the Law that labels it sin. Presto, no more sin.
Murder a problem in our big cities? Strike the law against murder from the books and presto, murder isn't a problem anymore.
Christ came to change human beings, not the Law. He came to give us the heart to obey Him...
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
It is the carnal mind that is not subject to the Law of God and Paul never describes the solution as doing away with the Law...
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.
What he describes is a change of our nature.
The Law is a task master? It is bondage?
Rom 7:12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Hmmm, Paul doesn't seem to be saying "bad old Law" here. Seems to be saying that the problem was with him, not the Law...
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Hmmm, Paul doesn't seem to be saying "bad old Law" here. Seems to be saying that the problem was with him, not the Law...
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
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Paul answered it. You read it. I posted it first. You had to read it to get to my next post. You sit at your keyboard and twist and pervert the gospel. You know what the bible says. You ignore what you don't want to hear and twist what you can to serve your own perverse doctrine. The bible talks bad about people that do what you and the other law/sabbath keepers do on this forum.
2 Peter 3:16
Here is the scripture you so painfully ignored, so that you can't claim you missed it: Galatians 2:19 "For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God."
2 Peter 3:16
Here is the scripture you so painfully ignored, so that you can't claim you missed it: Galatians 2:19 "For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God."
The first five books of the Old Testament is God revealing His Words to Moses who transcribed them. They are called Torah. The Torah is "instructions", "correction" and "protection" directed to a certain people (His people). If you are a Christian, then you are a follower of Christ and Christ was a follower of His Father's commandments, which are the Torah of which were given for instruction, correction and protection. In the New Testament it speaks of lawlessness. Is it better to be legal than illegal? A Christian who believes that the Torah is done away with is "working hard at lawlessness".
Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
Mat 7:22 On that Day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord! Didn't we prophesy in your name? Didn't we expel demons in your name? Didn't we perform many miracles in your name?'
Mat 7:23 Then I will tell them to their faces, 'I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!'
Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
Mat 7:22 On that Day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord! Didn't we prophesy in your name? Didn't we expel demons in your name? Didn't we perform many miracles in your name?'
Mat 7:23 Then I will tell them to their faces, 'I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!'
This NEW not OLD Covenant applies to the Church as well.
Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic law but gives us His new lae in our hearts.
Jeremiah 31:31-34 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Ezekiel 36:25-27 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic law but gives us His new lae in our hearts.
Jeremiah 31:31-34 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Ezekiel 36:25-27 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Hmmm, pulled that one out of context...
Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU DID NOT DESIRE, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME.
Heb 10:6 IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAD NO PLEASURE.
Heb 10:7 THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME— IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME— TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.' "
Heb 10:8 Previously saying, "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING, BURNT OFFERINGS, AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU DID NOT DESIRE, NOR HAD PLEASURE IN THEM" (which are offered according to the law),
Heb 10:9 then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.
What is the subject here? Sacrifices.
Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU DID NOT DESIRE, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME.
Heb 10:6 IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAD NO PLEASURE.
Heb 10:7 THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME— IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME— TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.' "
Heb 10:8 Previously saying, "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING, BURNT OFFERINGS, AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU DID NOT DESIRE, NOR HAD PLEASURE IN THEM" (which are offered according to the law),
Heb 10:9 then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.
What is the subject here? Sacrifices.
The word for Law there is TORAH. Now what in the world could that be referring to?
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/92049-commandments-jesus-christ-5.html#post1546662
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/92049-commandments-jesus-christ-5.html#post1546662