King James authorized bible vs the rest of other bibles

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Atwood

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In other words, other Bible versions cannot make this claim. There are many more examples of the number 7 that occur in an unusually uncanny way that confirms the KJV.
Where does scripture say that translations are validated by numerology?
 
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How on earth does that prove that there were/are two & only 2 vulgates?
Most KJV proponents who do not even know each other are aware of this fact because they did their home work. Are you even interested of even Researching it for yourself or do you just want to mentally fold your arms and shake your head?
 

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I disagree. The KJV-only Postion (or seeing errors within it) is a spiritual matter that can be resolved with Scripture if somebody wants to simply trust God and His Word by faith.
OK, quote us your verse that endorses the KJV.
 

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Atwood responded to the 2 Vulgate Claim with "How on earth does that prove that there were/are two & only 2 vulgates?"

Most KJV proponents who do not even know each other are aware of this fact because they did their home work. Are you even interested of even Researching it for yourself or do you just want to mentally fold your arms and shake your head?
Proof Jason. You said 2 Vulgates; prove or retract. Prove 2 & only 2.
Also prove what on earth this has to do with the KJV.
 

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This will be a year of posts now, 365, unless someone beats me to it.

We still wait breathlessly for proof that the KJV is the very word of God without error, breathed out by God.
This of course is tough, since the Bible was finished around AD 100 when there was no English language.
 
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Most KJV proponents who do not even know each other are aware of this fact because they did their home work. Are you even interested of even Researching it for yourself or do you just want to mentally fold your arms and shake your head?
So you are free to make whatever claims you want and if someone calls you out on it, you insult them?
 
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Atwood responded to the 2 Vulgate Claim with "How on earth does that prove that there were/are two & only 2 vulgates?"

Proof Jason. You said 2 Vulgates; prove or retract. Prove 2 & only 2.
Also prove what on earth this has to do with the KJV.
What proof do I truly have that George Washington was the actual first President?
I have no need to be convinced with a ton of historical evidence that I cannot really prove unless I had a time machine. The observable evidence of God's Word is all I need. But if want to research it for yourself, then by all means you are free to do so. For that's what the Internet is for.
 
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So you are free to make whatever claims you want and if someone calls you out on it, you insult them?
Where did I personally insult you?
 
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OK, quote us your verse that endorses the KJV.
There many things taught in the Bible that don't necessarily use words that hit you over the head. It's a logical deduction based on a set of many verses and by looking at the observable evidence of the KJV.
 
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My brother, the cross is the meat and not the milk. No matter how much we study or how intelligent we think we are, nor how holy we envision our self.

It is the cross. No matter how smart or how ignorant. It is the cross. The best theologians needs the cross just as the heroin addict under the bridge does.

Yes read and yes study and find out how much you need the cross. Baptized or not.
My brother, the cross is empty. We need the man who died on the cross.
 
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My brother, the cross is empty. We need the man who died on the cross.
I have good news for you!!!
He has been resurrected and is in full authority over heaven and earth now.

I believe it would be beneficial for all to spread this good news.
 

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I have good news for you!!!
He has been resurrected and is in full authority over heaven and earth now.

I believe it would be beneficial for all to spread this good news.
That's the best news ever! Thanks! We're a little of the OP topic, but they need a little time to regroup.
 
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Where did I personally insult you?
Another person questioned your claim, and you told him to go research it himself because to do otherwise is to "just want to mentally fold your arms and shake your head"

If you make a claim, you need to be able to back it up if you wished to be taken seriously. Until you do, there is no point in discussing anything with you as there is no reason to believe anything you say. Talking with a person that cannot back up what they say is pointless.
 
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After much study, I have concluded that those who say only one translation is correct is interfering with God's word by encouraging people not to look at original writings and accepting man's ideas of scripture instead of God's. In that way, they are against God's truth. No man who wasn't born and lived in the Hebrew culture can truly put Hebrew thought and words into their own language, What wasn't written in Hebrew was translated from God from a Hebrew background.

We need to seek the Lord, not decide what the Lord says.
 
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Another person questioned your claim, and you told him to go research it himself because to do otherwise is to "just want to mentally fold your arms and shake your head"

If you make a claim, you need to be able to back it up if you wished to be taken seriously. Until you do, there is no point in discussing anything with you as there is no reason to believe anything you say. Talking with a person that cannot back up what they say is pointless.
We live in a world where we can find out anything with just the push of a couple buttons. It really does not take that much effort for me to show him that which he can easily do for himself. So to say that I must back up my claim when one can just find it so easily and yet refuses to look it up tells me we live in a world where everything is spoon fed to us. Just speak the word "pizza" and you will be guided to your local pizza shops. In fact, I believe if he were to research it for himself it wouldn't be me trying to convince him but it would be his own personal investigation on the matter.

Also, stating that he was in disagreement with me is not a personal insult. A personal insult is when you verbally call them names or say something that is mean or cruel. I did no such thing.
 
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We live in a world where we can find out anything with just the push of a couple buttons. It really does not take that much effort for me to show him that which he can easily do for himself. To say that I must back my claim when one can just find it so easily and yet refuses to look it up speaks of the decay of our own current culture. For live in a world where everything is spoon fed to us. Just speak the word "pizza" and you will be guided to your local pizza shops. In fact, I believe if he were to research it for himself it wouldn't be me trying to convince him but it would be his own personal investigation on the matter.
I figured you would do anything but answer his question. You've made it clear now that you cannot answer it.

Also, stating that he was in disagreement with me is not a personal insult. A personal insult is when you verbally call them names or say something that is mean or cruel. I did no such thing.
He was not in disagreement with you. He asked you to back up a claim you made and you have spent several posts trying to accuse others of laziness as a way to avoid the fact that you cannot back up your own claim.


Most of us as children experienced other children making ridiculous claims. We learned that when someone does this, you get them to back it up. People generally figured out that you don't claim something unless you can back it up. What is sad is when someone on the internet makes a claim and when they get backed into a corner, they will go through all kinds of loops and rhetoric to avoid answering.

They just cannot stand to see a post go unanswered. They have to reply and they'll go so far as blaming the other person for laziness and say the other person needs to back up the claim they themselves made! Maybe it is satisfying to get the last word in - but the reality is no one believes them.

No matter what you say you are not fooling anyone. If you you do not back up your claim, then we know you cannot back up your claim. Whatever you do or say at this point to avoid that does not and cannot take away that fact.
 
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After much study, I have concluded that those who say only one translation is correct is interfering with God's word by encouraging people not to look at original writings and accepting man's ideas of scripture instead of God's. In that way, they are against God's truth. No man who wasn't born and lived in the Hebrew culture can truly put Hebrew thought and words into their own language, What wasn't written in Hebrew was translated from God from a Hebrew background.

We need to seek the Lord, not decide what the Lord says.
I believe it is the exact opposite, my friend. After much study, I believe that most people who act like they know Hebrew and Greek do so as to ignore the plain straight forward meaning in God's preserved Word for our world language today.

There are two vines. A bad vine and a good vine. In other words, there are two sets of NT Greek manuscripts that folks are basing their English translations off of. One set of manuscripts (that is the good vine), is what the KJV is based off of. The other set of manuscripts (that is the bad vine), is what the majority of Modern Translations are based off of. This second set of Greek manuscripts is the Westcott and Hort New Testament.

Just research these men on the Internet and you will see that they were not even real believers.
 
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I figured you would do anything but answer his question. You've made it clear now that you cannot answer it.



He was not in disagreement with you. He asked you to back up a claim you made and you have spent several posts trying to accuse others of laziness as a way to avoid the fact that you cannot back up your own claim.


Most of us as children experienced other children making ridiculous claims. We learned that when someone does this, you get them to back it up. People generally figured out that you don't claim something unless you can back it up. What is sad is when someone on the internet makes a claim and when they get backed into a corner, they will go through all kinds of loops and rhetoric to avoid answering.

They just cannot stand to see a post go unanswered. They have to reply and they'll go so far as blaming the other person for laziness and say the other person needs to back up the claim they themselves made! Maybe it is satisfying to get the last word in - but the reality is no one believes them.

No matter what you say you are not fooling anyone. If you you do not back up your claim, then we know you cannot back up your claim. Whatever you do or say at this point to avoid that does not and cannot take away that fact.
Do I need to back the claim that Google is an internet search engine for it to be true or not? No.
But if you really really really want me to give you research on this. I will make it my mission to exhaust every source that I can find. I merely was trying to get him to look into it because people are not convinced most times when they debate but only when they actually do their own homework.

Anyways, I will need time to gather the information.
So please be patient.
 
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I figured you would do anything but answer his question. You've made it clear now that you cannot answer it.



He was not in disagreement with you. He asked you to back up a claim you made and you have spent several posts trying to accuse others of laziness as a way to avoid the fact that you cannot back up your own claim.


Most of us as children experienced other children making ridiculous claims. We learned that when someone does this, you get them to back it up. People generally figured out that you don't claim something unless you can back it up. What is sad is when someone on the internet makes a claim and when they get backed into a corner, they will go through all kinds of loops and rhetoric to avoid answering.

They just cannot stand to see a post go unanswered. They have to reply and they'll go so far as blaming the other person for laziness and say the other person needs to back up the claim they themselves made! Maybe it is satisfying to get the last word in - but the reality is no one believes them.

No matter what you say you are not fooling anyone. If you you do not back up your claim, then we know you cannot back up your claim. Whatever you do or say at this point to avoid that does not and cannot take away that fact.
I agree... it's time to produce evidence or fess up! I've never heard of 2 Vulgates and am anxiously waiting to see Jason's evidence.