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The word, church, is a modern term used for the true word, ekklēsia. This word, ekklēsia refers to "assembly" or "congregation.". These terms are used for the gathering of God's people, Israel. To replace the word, assembly, for the word, church, you can give the impression that there is a separate entity that are not responsible to obey the Law of God but we find this nowhere in Scripture. God will write His Law in the hearts and minds of His people who are called the assembly. Remember, these subtle changes in words change their meaning. This needs to be done in order for the Beast to change God's Law and times. For example, the so called church calls Sunday the Lord's day when the Bible uses no such term. So right here alone we have a foreign word church and a foreign day to God as the Sunday, the Lord's day.
Why did Jesus say, ''I WILL build my church? (future tense). Not I have been building my Church, if it is the same.
 
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Why did Jesus say, ''I WILL build my church? (future tense). Not I have been building my Church, if it is the same.
The thing Jesus came to establish is the kingdom of God. To me Jesus was probably referring to the man made teachings that established the assembly of the Pharisees vs the assembly of God. The Pharisees had a whole system built on man made laws and doctrines, which Jesus called, leaven.

Matthew 16:6-12 Then Jesus said to them, “Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees.” And they reasoned among themselves, saying, “It is because we have taken no bread.” But Jesus, being aware of it, said to them, “O you of little faith, why do you reason among yourselves because you have brought no bread? Do you not yet understand, or remember the five loaves of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up? Nor the seven loaves of the four thousand and how many large baskets you took up? How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?—but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

The teachings of Jesus turns the hearts of the children back to the fathers and the hearts of the fathers back to the children. In other words, Jesus is going restore honor to the Law and magnify it to the way it was when it was given to the fathers.

Here is a prophecy of the work of Jesus.

Isaiah 42:21 The Lord is well pleased for His righteousness’ sake; He will magnify the law and make it honorable.

Jesus has to restore the Law to its original purpose because it will be taught and followed in the millennium, which is right around the corner.
 
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What is seen as the Law? The 10 commandments?
 
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What is seen as the Law? The 10 commandments?
Amen! I believe the Ten Commandments define godly love and godly love will never go away that's why God needs to write them on our heart. I see the Feast Days as also binding on the Christian but not in the same strict, ritualistic way they were under the Old Covenant. This is why God says not to judge anyone in regards to the shadows. Do not judge does not mean do not keep. The shadows teach us the plan of God. There are still some of the shadows that need to be fulfilled so why do away with them. We still need them because they teach us God's plan that is yet to be fulfilled. Since the Beast came on the scene we now have Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, Sunday as the Lord's day and so on in place of God's holy days. This has caused a great fallen away from the faith. These man made holidays teach us nothing of God's plan, as a matter of fact, they distort God's plan.
 
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"5 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5
 
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"12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days." Daniel 12
 
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The church? What is the church but the Israel of God.
Ok its evident you need to study up on who is who in the Bible and other important things such as Bible Covenants.
 
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Ok its evident you need to study up on who is who in the Bible and other important things such as Bible Covenants.
The word, church, is a modern term used for the true word, ekklēsia. This word, ekklēsia refers to "assembly" or "congregation.". These terms are used for the gathering of God's people, Israel. To replace the word, assembly, for the word, church, you can give the impression that there is a separate entity that are not responsible to obey the Law of God but we find this nowhere in Scripture. God will write His Law in the hearts and minds of His people who are called the assembly. Remember, these subtle changes in words change their meaning. This needs to be done in order for the Beast to change God's Law and times. For example, the so called church calls Sunday the Lord's day when the Bible uses no such term. So right here alone we have a foreign word church and a foreign day to God as the Sunday, the Lord's day.
 
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Amen! I believe the Ten Commandments define godly love and godly love will never go away that's why God needs to write them on our heart. I see the Feast Days as also binding on the Christian but not in the same strict, ritualistic way they were under the Old Covenant. This is why God says not to judge anyone in regards to the shadows. Do not judge does not mean do not keep. The shadows teach us the plan of God. There are still some of the shadows that need to be fulfilled so why do away with them. We still need them because they teach us God's plan that is yet to be fulfilled. Since the Beast came on the scene we now have Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, Sunday as the Lord's day and so on in place of God's holy days. This has caused a great fallen away from the faith. These man made holidays teach us nothing of God's plan, as a matter of fact, they distort God's plan.

"8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Colossians 2:8

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2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man." Matthew 15:2-20

Yoooo, just reminding all of you (no one specifically) to do everything out of love and kindness.

"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:16

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6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted." Galatians 6:1

"7 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." Romans 16:17

"15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother." 2 Thessalonians 3:15

"10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." Titus 3:10-11

"16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Timothy 3:16-17
 
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The word, church, is a modern term used for the true word, ekklēsia. This word, ekklēsia refers to "assembly" or "congregation.". These terms are used for the gathering of God's people, Israel. To replace the word, assembly, for the word, church, you can give the impression that there is a separate entity that are not responsible to obey the Law of God but we find this nowhere in Scripture. God will write His Law in the hearts and minds of His people who are called the assembly. Remember, these subtle changes in words change their meaning. This needs to be done in order for the Beast to change God's Law and times. For example, the so called church calls Sunday the Lord's day when the Bible uses no such term. So right here alone we have a foreign word church and a foreign day to God as the Sunday, the Lord's day.
You are still clueless, but its ok, we still love you...
 
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Amen! I believe the Ten Commandments define godly love and godly love will never go away that's why God needs to write them on our heart. I see the Feast Days as also binding on the Christian but not in the same strict, ritualistic way they were under the Old Covenant. This is why God says not to judge anyone in regards to the shadows. Do not judge does not mean do not keep. The shadows teach us the plan of God. There are still some of the shadows that need to be fulfilled so why do away with them. We still need them because they teach us God's plan that is yet to be fulfilled. Since the Beast came on the scene we now have Christmas, Easter, Good Friday, Sunday as the Lord's day and so on in place of God's holy days. This has caused a great fallen away from the faith. These man made holidays teach us nothing of God's plan, as a matter of fact, they distort God's plan.
As a gentile Christian you are not bound to the 10 commandments.....besides Jesus gave us 2 that were greatest over these, yet you fail to understand that...
 

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As a gentile Christian you are not bound to the 10 commandments.....besides Jesus gave us 2 that were greatest over these, yet you fail to understand that...
You statement bothers me a bit. Please explain which commandments that we are no longer bound to.
 
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As a gentile Christian you are not bound to the 10 commandments.....besides Jesus gave us 2 that were greatest over these, yet you fail to understand that...
The Ten are attached to the two, not cut off from them. In other words, you can't have the two without the Ten.
 
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As a gentile Christian you are not bound to the 10 commandments.....besides Jesus gave us 2 that were greatest over these, yet you fail to understand that...
Jesus left us in no doubt about His standard of righteousness. We are not even to think that He came to abolish the law. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill" (Matt. 5:17). Anyone who dares to teach that any of God's established commandments is not binding will be rejected by heaven (verse 19).

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." = Matthew 5:19

We know what set of laws Jesus meant because he quoted the Ten Commandments (verses 21, 27).

Some have argued that Jesus' interpretation amounted to an abolition of the Ten, because He emphasized the importance of the spirit of the law rather than the letter. The fact is that Jesus gave a more strict interpretation of the law than was generally accepted. The spirit of the law does not exclude the letter; it goes beyond it to show what the commandments really mean.

The command that says, "You shall not murder" means that Christians are not to lose their tempers with their neighbors or cherish hatred in their hearts (Matt. 5:21, 22). The command, "You shall not commit adultery" means that impure thoughts must not be cherished. Jesus exalted the standard far above what many of His contemporaries thought necessary. He did not abolish the Ten Commandments; He established them permanently as God's standard of righteousness.
 
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Ministry of death? or Ministry of Life?, your choice.
Through your choice to discount anything the Lord says about recognizing sin but choosing to let whatever comes in your head to guide you, it is choosing death. You say you are only guided by the Holy Spirit, and you refuse to acknowledge any scripture that would let you know what is of the Holy Spirit and what is not. Adam and Eve chose to make knowledge of sin and chose our inheritance of fleshly desires so that we need all the guidance we can get, and you say we should have none of it, that Christ did away with any guidance we have. It is the same as saying that you choose to let your flesh have its own way, you refuse God's guidance. That is choosing death.
 

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WARNING, WARNING
Danger Will Robinson Danger, Danger

Believe God or don't salvation is at the door, step in by Faith or stay out by your own works to be saved. For the first chosen could not do it, having to make sacrifices year after year for their past sins that the Father of Christ was never pleased with/

So Christ the Son came in full time to be the propitiation for sin, all sin. Leaving one thing left for us to either believe or not believe.
So step in and be covered by the blood as the first chosen were on the night that the angel of death visited Egypt and God saved his chosen Children as by his promise to Abraham

We are safe smothered and covered in Jesus' life blood

Hebrews 10:2
For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

By Christ's last sacrifice and no more is to be done, we are forgiven and when we believe we are saved
 

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Scooby Dooby Doo!
(Oh, look. There's just a man under that ghost sheet)
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The term, church, is foreign to the Scriptures. God made a new covenant with house Israel, not a separate entity called, the church. If you are not grafted into the house of Israel through the blood of Christ then you are outside of the covenant of promise and without God or hope in the world.
yes Isreal, the congregation in the wilderness was the church