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Rom 2:6; Rev 20:12,13 plainly say men will be judged according to their deeds/works. So how does that work out for those that think NO WORKS is necessary to being saved?
Because believers are judged by their works and given different rewards in heaven by how obedient they were.

Now that being said, if you profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but only produce bad works or walk in willful sin you are not saved.
 

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You say "one God" but EPh 4:4 that I am talking about says one BODY.

As there is one God, EPh 4:4 says there is one body. So Christ only established one church therefore the idea of there being many churches is a corruption of man. THis one body, one church is upon earth now and someday Christ will return for her to take her back to heaven with Him where He has prepared mansions, Jn 14:1-3.

Verse 3 says "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also" If the church were already in heaven, then no need for Christ to return to earth and receive the church unto Himself.
I am so sorry you don't see in whole, God is a Spirit and can only be worshiped in Spirit and truth

John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Philippians 3:3New International Version (NIV)[SUP]3 [/SUP]For it is we who are the circumcision,[SUP](A)[/SUP] we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus,[SUP](B)[/SUP] and who put no confidence in the flesh—

John 10:10New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life,[SUP](A)[/SUP] and have it to the full.[SUP](

[/SUP]
Romans 5:17New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For if, by the trespass of the one man, death[SUP](A)[/SUP] reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life[SUP](B)[/SUP] through the one man, Jesus Christ!


Romans 5:10
For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

Romans 1:17
For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith

Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”

Romans 3:21New International Version (NIV)[h=3]Righteousness Through Faith[/h][SUP]21 [/SUP]But now apart from the law the righteousness of God[SUP](A)[/SUP] has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.[SUP](B)[/SUP]
Philippians 3:9New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law,[SUP](A)[/SUP] but that which is through faith in[SUP][a][/SUP] Christ—the righteousness[SUP](B)[/SUP] that comes from God on the basis of faith.[SUP](C)[/SUP]

Romans 10:5New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.

Perfectly fail in one part failed in all

Try holding ten apples under water at the same time, can't be done can it?
Physical analogies bring Spiritual realities, we accept truth or reject it
Thankful to God for his Mercy and teaching
 

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Jesus' kingdom is not a physical, economic type of kingdom, but a spiritual kingdom. Christ's church is a spiritual kingdom.


Acts 8:1 "And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles."

How could Saul persecute the church at Jerusalem if the church is not in this world?
I am noticing you roll over and play dead, and talk out of two ides of your mouth

So, you being Church of Christ, is this the one true Church, only those that are water Baptized in it are saved? That is the Doctrine of the COC is it not?

They are the only true Church here on earth, is this what they believe? and are you following this Doctrine as total truth?
 

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Rom 2:6; Rev 20:12,13 plainly say men will be judged according to their deeds/works. So how does that work out for those that think NO WORKS is necessary to being saved?
1 Corinthians 3 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. [SUP]2 [/SUP]I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? [SUP]4 [/SUP]For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? [SUP]6 [/SUP]I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. [SUP]7 [/SUP]So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; [SUP]13 [/SUP]every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 

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me? do you mean in the past two or three minutes?
All sin as soon as it is past is forgiven by Father through Son Christ.

I have sinned, and all have, being in this unredeemed flesh the potential to sin is always there, Romans 7

1 John 2:1-4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [SUP]2 [/SUP]and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

AS soon as any is done it is past, an is forgiven, in nano-second

Romans 3:25
whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

So how does anyone stop sin, can anyone?

Galatians 4:29Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[SUP]29 [/SUP]But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.



Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

So continue to stop sinful behavior our own flesh as is what is taught by this world's Church's and reap sin by having the thoughts of stopping sin


Romans 7, every time I wish to do good, I do evil instead.
I conclude I serve God wit he inner man of my new heart God gave me on the very first day I believed, Eph. 1:13

and I serve the law of sin and death with my flesh

So by Christ's death consider, see it s your death to self, so that you will see your new life in Spirit and truth, which is the only way God is worshiped John4:23-24
 

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Hebrews 2:3
how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;


Those that do believe, do not have desire to sin and Father knows who these are
So I can rest ,knowing
Philippians 1:6 [Full Chapter]
being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Do you believe God, I do, and have watched the changes God puts in the ones that do believe God, is amazing
 
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Comparing to parallel verses of Col 1:18 and Eph 5:18 the word indwelling a Christian and the spirit indwelling the Christian is the same thing.
Col. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that n all things he might have the preeminence. Where does this say or imply that the word indwelling a Christian and the Spirit indwelling the Christian is the same thing?
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; - Same here?
The Holy Spirit abides in the Christian the same as Christ abides in the Christian:

Jn 15:4 "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

5 "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

7 "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you."

THis passage says Christ abides in the Christian verses 4 & 5. But Christ abiding in the Christian in verses 4 & 5 becomes Christ's words being "in you" in v7

So both Christ and the HS both abide in the Christian through their words.
The verses you quoted have to do with the Christian bearing fruit and the type of fruit.

It is apparent that you do not understand what the new birth entails. When one is born of the Spirit by the word of God that 'seed' placed within the believer is Spirit. God in Christ now dwells within the believer via the Holy Spirit. 2 Cor. 5:19 - to wit God was in Christ . . . . Col. 1:27 Christ in you, the hope of glory = being born again of the Spirit. The answer to Jesus' prayer in John 17 - 11) And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are. 20) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21) That they all may be one; as thou, Father art in me, and I in thee, that thy also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; . .. . . That is the one body, the church, of which Christ is the head and one is only part of that body if they are born again of the Spirit.

 
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Because believers are judged by their works and given different rewards in heaven by how obedient they were.

Now that being said, if you profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but only produce bad works or walk in willful sin you are not saved.
I don't believe we, as Christians, should walk around producing bad works but what you just said is not true - Through a purifying or purging by fire - works that are not burned and remain will result in rewards - our "bad" works will burn and we will suffer loss as in loss of rewards but we will be saved by the purging. 1 Cor. 3:13-15
 
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1 Corinthians 3 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. [SUP]2 [/SUP]I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? [SUP]4 [/SUP]For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? [SUP]6 [/SUP]I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. [SUP]7 [/SUP]So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; [SUP]13 [/SUP]every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
God will not say he will save you in one breath and then destroy you in the same breath....
Very good passage you quote but yo do not understand, because you think vs 14 and 15 says your works will burn and you will be saved......but my friend you must continue to read ...
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16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
 
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I don't believe we, as Christians, should walk around producing bad works but what you just said is not true - Through a purifying or purging by fire - works that are not burned and remain will result in rewards - our "bad" works will burn and we will suffer loss as in loss of rewards but we will be saved by the purging. 1 Cor. 3:13-15
You also did not read vs 16 1nd 17...which makes it very clear you interpret the scripture wrong..
 
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Absolutely, and in context:

Romans 1:5
Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.

Romans 5:19
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.




Romans 16:26
but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all the Gentiles might come to the obedience that comes from faith—

Nothing in the context of Heb 5:9 says Christ saves those who do no obedient works. But says just the opposite, Christ saves those that obey Him, and Rom 1:5; 5:19; 16:26 do not contradict or change Heb 5:9 but agree with it
 
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Because believers are judged by their works and given different rewards in heaven by how obedient they were.

Now that being said, if you profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but only produce bad works or walk in willful sin you are not saved.

A believer cannot do bad, unrighteous works and still be saved. Unrighteousness will get the Christian lost, not just a "loss of rewards", but eternally lost.

1 Jn 3:10 anyone, a believer or not, that does unrighteousness is NOT of God.
 
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I am so sorry you don't see in whole, God is a Spirit and can only be worshiped in Spirit and truth

John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Philippians 3:3New International Version (NIV)[SUP]3 [/SUP]For it is we who are the circumcision,[SUP](A)[/SUP] we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus,[SUP](B)[/SUP] and who put no confidence in the flesh—

John 10:10New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life,[SUP](A)[/SUP] and have it to the full.[SUP](

[/SUP]
Romans 5:17New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For if, by the trespass of the one man, death[SUP](A)[/SUP] reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life[SUP](B)[/SUP] through the one man, Jesus Christ!


Romans 5:10
For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

Romans 1:17
For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith

Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”

Romans 3:21New International Version (NIV)Righteousness Through Faith

[SUP]21 [/SUP]But now apart from the law the righteousness of God[SUP](A)[/SUP] has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.[SUP](B)[/SUP]
Philippians 3:9New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law,[SUP](A)[/SUP] but that which is through faith in[SUP][a][/SUP] Christ—the righteousness[SUP](B)[/SUP] that comes from God on the basis of faith.[SUP](C)[/SUP]

Romans 10:5New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.

Perfectly fail in one part failed in all

Try holding ten apples under water at the same time, can't be done can it?
Physical analogies bring Spiritual realities, we accept truth or reject it
Thankful to God for his Mercy and teaching

But you did not explain why Christ is returning to earth some day for His church if His church is not on earth but already in heaven. Again, from Acts 8:1 how could the church in Jerusalem be persecuted if the church is not here on earth?
 
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I am noticing you roll over and play dead, and talk out of two ides of your mouth

So, you being Church of Christ, is this the one true Church, only those that are water Baptized in it are saved? That is the Doctrine of the COC is it not?

They are the only true Church here on earth, is this what they believe? and are you following this Doctrine as total truth?
Christ established just one church, Eph 4:4 one body and is the head of that one body, that is a biblical fact. Now whether you believe the church of Christ is that one church or not is something you have to decide within your own mind. I made my decision about the church of Christ and God will sort it all out one day. But it still remains a fact there is no such thing as many different churches with many different contradicting faiths, for again, there is ONE church and ONE faith. The idea there are many churchES with many contradicting faiths is a corruption of man. A lot of contradictions will save no one. The corruption of man is "believe whatever you want to" - that a person can believe anything he wants to, even if what he believes contradicts the bible, and yet still be saved.
 
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1 Corinthians 3 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. [SUP]2 [/SUP]I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? [SUP]4 [/SUP]For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? [SUP]5 [/SUP]Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? [SUP]6 [/SUP]I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. [SUP]7 [/SUP]So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; [SUP]13 [/SUP]every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [SUP]15 [/SUP]If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

The "works" in the context of 1 Cor 3 refer to converts, (see 1 Cor 9:1 where Paul calls the Corinthian converts his "work"). If a man's work/convert is saved then that man will receive a reward for that convert. But if that man's work/convert is lost, that man himself sill not be lost as long as he is not a castaway/reprobate, 1 Cor 9:27, but he will suffer a sine of loss over his lost convert.
 
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The verses you quoted have to do with the Christian bearing fruit and the type of fruit.

It is apparent that you do not understand what the new birth entails. When one is born of the Spirit by the word of God that 'seed' placed within the believer is Spirit. God in Christ now dwells within the believer via the Holy Spirit. 2 Cor. 5:19 - to wit God was in Christ . . . . Col. 1:27 Christ in you, the hope of glory = being born again of the Spirit. The answer to Jesus' prayer in John 17 - 11) And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are. 20) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21) That they all may be one; as thou, Father art in me, and I in thee, that thy also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; . .. . . That is the one body, the church, of which Christ is the head and one is only part of that body if they are born again of the Spirit.

Those verses I quoted have to do with the indwelling of Christ, the Holy Ghost and the word and that the indwelling of Christ and the HS is equivalent to the indwelling of the word.

The new birth is water baptism.

Jn 3:5--------spirit++++++++water>>>>>>>>>>in the kingdom
1Cor 12:13----spirit+++++++baptized>>>>>>>>>in the body

So here we have two verses that deal with the new birth and since there is just one way to be born again both verses must express the same idea therefore "born of water" of Jn 3:5 is equivalent to "baptized" of 1 Cor 12:13.

Mt 7:21 Jesus said those that DOETH the will of the Father will enter the kingdom of God.
Jn 3:5 says those born of water and spirit enter the kingdom of heaven.

Since there is just one way to enter the kingdom/be saved, then being born of water and of the spirit must be DOING the will of God. Being water baptized is DOING the will of God. Being born again is something one DOES...one submits himself to water baptism.

You posted "That is the one body, the church, of which Christ is the head and one is only part of that body if they are born again of the Spirit"

So those in Acts 2 that obeyed Peters' command in v38 to be water baptized/born again and were DOING the will of God and therefore added to that one church verse 47. No one in Acts 2 that had faith only were added to the one church.
 
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All sin as soon as it is past is forgiven by Father through Son Christ.

I have sinned, and all have, being in this unredeemed flesh the potential to sin is always there, Romans 7
so what you are saying is that we have an automatic sin remover? We can continue in sin that grace may abound...
Your teaching is contrary to scripture.....
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ...
Romans 6:18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.




Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



1 John 2:1-4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [SUP]2 [/SUP]and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

AS soon as any is done it is past, an is forgiven, in nano-second
The scripture does not teach what you are saying......

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.




Romans 3:25

whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

So how does anyone stop sin, can anyone?
bring the flesh under the control of the spirit
1 Peter 4:1
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;



Galatians 4:29Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[SUP]29 [/SUP]But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.



Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

So continue to stop sinful behavior our own flesh as is what is taught by this world's Church's and reap sin by having the thoughts of stopping sin
Are you saying one must not stop sinning?

Romans 7, every time I wish to do good, I do evil instead.
I conclude I serve God wit he inner man of my new heart God gave me on the very first day I believed, Eph. 1:13

and I serve the law of sin and death with my flesh
And you conclude this scripture to mean we can sin in the flesh?....what he means is we must do righteous deeds in the flesh... We serve God with the inner man in spirit but since we are in this body flesh there must be a reflection of the spirit in our actions...by our deeds


So by Christ's death consider, see it s your death to self, so that you will see your new life in Spirit and truth, which is the only way God is worshiped John4:23-24
yes ..so as you think truth you must do truth.....
He did not say if we think we are in the light.....
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.