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The significance is that the bible doesn't mention any of those things but it does attach those qualities to god. Perhaps you should look into these things? Who am I of course to suggest such a thing. God, if he has hair should be able to change it at will, he is all powerful. God, if he has no hair, should be able to grow it at will - he is all powerful. It makes no difference to the price of tea in china but it does show that god is not all powerful, and these qualities define your god. I see that you are asking irrelevant questions - at least you sir have no bombarded me with out of context scripture. The point still stands though - god is all powerful or he is not - if he is, he defeats himself. If he is not then he is not god. The fact you have also used the word 'paradox' is worrying. I'm being told by other people here that it is not a paradox because god is beyond our comprehension..
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Challenge?? You are a bad christian indeed. I do not need to be a christian to know this. You do not see a dozen guys like me a week, I am not them, they are not me. You say challenge - is asking someone to explain something not a challenge? Is refusing to believe something you are told until you understand it not a challenge? Perish the thought that I should accept what you tell me off the bat without questioning it - if you thought about it, and I mean really thought about it, what I've said would explain why I am an atheist at this moment. Don't assume you know me unless you know yourself completely in and out - and you don't - so don't make assumptions
Then I will email you the address to my site and you can examine the information at you leisure. Be advised, that site is not a discussion form, it is a teaching forum. I will answer legitimate questions you post in the comment section by email but I will not tolerate argumentation and any argumentation will be deleted from the site.
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So I can take a popcorn kernel, put it in a pan and heat it until it turns into popcorn - does this make me god? To cook an egg I would need to put it in a pot, add water and turn the heat on. I don't have to do any of those things, does that make me god too? And on another note, because I was being deadly serious there, where has the assumption that "god being all powerful is a MISTAKEN assumption" came from? I have literally just realized that I could sit here for a week, ask the same question and get so many answers, many of which would contradict themselves and the reasoning behind which they came from. I get bombarded with scripture OR nonsense on a regular basis, even when I ask to be spoken to normally, in laymans terms - given that I am an atheist. Does it happen though, of course not
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Ah I see - so basically - you won't tolerate me asking questions about something I don't understand, or something which provokes thought and causes me to seek a deeper understanding of. You also won't tolerate me holding up my current template of understanding and comparing it to yours in order to gain insight then either. In short - it's your way or the highway then?
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A minute ago you used that line of questioning to shut me down but then I switch it around and suddenly it appears you actually pre-meditated my response and set that whole line of questioning up, in advance, to prove a point, thus creating the illusion that I lead myself to greater understanding...
Son, to be quite honest with you, you are not old enough to have learned how to think about much. This is a put down, it is just the simple fact that you have not lived long enough and have not had enough life experience, nor have you been exposed to enough information to be able to formulate an intelligent conclusion. You simply do not have all the facts.
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Nah, it's Gods way or the highway.
Lets say you were to seek a loan.
and you go to the bank
and the first teller says they cannot approve your request.
but you are diligent in seeking what you came for.
what is your next step in the procedure?
Go over that persons head in authority.
So you seek a manager
The manager says he cannot approve your request.
But you are diligent and do not take no for an answer
What next?
Go over that person's head straight to the top for the answer you seek
what I'm instructing you to do...is go over all our heads.
And go to the final authority.
The Creator himself.
Why do you seek God through man. As if trying to seek a loan through a broker instead of going straight to the owner?
You could just as easily seek God by asking him to reveal himself to you.
but first...you have to seek his words.
But I feel that's the problem, you are seeking others to convince you.
It is more difficult to read his word, and try to decide if you want to believe.
When You must first decide to believe what God says, then go read his word.
Lets say you were to seek a loan.
and you go to the bank
and the first teller says they cannot approve your request.
but you are diligent in seeking what you came for.
what is your next step in the procedure?
Go over that persons head in authority.
So you seek a manager
The manager says he cannot approve your request.
But you are diligent and do not take no for an answer
What next?
Go over that person's head straight to the top for the answer you seek
what I'm instructing you to do...is go over all our heads.
And go to the final authority.
The Creator himself.
Why do you seek God through man. As if trying to seek a loan through a broker instead of going straight to the owner?
You could just as easily seek God by asking him to reveal himself to you.
but first...you have to seek his words.
But I feel that's the problem, you are seeking others to convince you.
It is more difficult to read his word, and try to decide if you want to believe.
When You must first decide to believe what God says, then go read his word.
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the bible was penned - you say god sometimes holds back judgement - you say god is eternal - you say he will react to what we do - how do you know this is true given that you just said god changes his mind. How do you even know he does for a start? How do you 'find' god changes his mind out of interest? You believe he does, but you cannot back this up with proof. This is your opinion. You are impressed by another mans views, therefore you have adopted them as your own.. Does this make them any less true or plausible - of course not
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I like what you said here, but I would like to think it in a different way.
Put God first, go to Him in prayer and ask for Him to look over you and help you get that loan that you are going to apply for in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Do that before you go to the bank and ask for the loan.
The thing is to that we must remember is that even God's answer maybe no. He may not feel that the loan or what ever we ask for is not what He feels we need at that time.
It is His will done in our lives, and He choses what He feels we need and when to give it.
Put God first, go to Him in prayer and ask for Him to look over you and help you get that loan that you are going to apply for in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Do that before you go to the bank and ask for the loan.
The thing is to that we must remember is that even God's answer maybe no. He may not feel that the loan or what ever we ask for is not what He feels we need at that time.
It is His will done in our lives, and He choses what He feels we need and when to give it.