islam and the pope

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Jackson123

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The joke is that people follow Martin Luther or John Calvin at all. Luther was a bigot, a sexist, an inciter of hatred and violence, and a staunch anti-semite. The links between Hitler's ideology and Martin Luther are well documented. Martin Luther and antisemitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As for Calvin, he was just as bad as Luther. To quote him, “The Jews' rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end, and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone.”

Great admirable men, eh?

It frustrates me to no end that violent men are given authority to render the words of the nonviolent one and garner millions of followers that heed their nonsense. 'You will know them by their fruits', is exactly the reason I don't take Luther or Calvin seriously. How can such hateful people have any authority on compassion or on peace?
Then we follow Jesus, He speak through the bible and never said Mary is Mediator.
 

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Which is why I do consider Mary, the Mother of Christ, to be an intercessor. She prays with all of the Saints and angels for us here on earth. We are One Body of Christ, not two. There is not a Body of Christ in Heaven and one on Earth, but one Body of Christ that spans between Heaven and earth.
There are many many non-biblical issues here, but I'm just going to point out a couple.

1. Nowhere in scripture are we told to pray to someone else (like Mary), so they in turn can pray for us.
We pray directly to God, through our ONE mediator, who is Christ.

2. If we're going to discuss Mary, then we need to lay all the cards on the table. The Catholic church considers Mary far more than just an intercessor (which is unbiblical due to point #1 above)... they actually call her a MEDIATRIX.
They consider her a mediator between us and Christ.
This is completely unbiblical.
We have ONE mediator, who is Christ himself.
 
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I watched an episode of Secret Millionaire Ireland this week-end. This guy went to a Catholic Church and chatted to the members in this shelter house, and lo and behold inside the church was the Quran to accommodate our Moslem friends. You cannot serve more than one God and looking at the RCC they are a religion trying to accommodate everybody. There is only one way into the Kingdom and that is through Jesus Christ. It is simple and clear to see in the scriptures.
 

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I watched an episode of Secret Millionaire Ireland this week-end. This guy went to a Catholic Church and chatted to the members in this shelter house, and lo and behold inside the church was the Quran to accommodate our Moslem friends. You cannot serve more than one God and looking at the RCC they are a religion trying to accommodate everybody. There is only one way into the Kingdom and that is through Jesus Christ. It is simple and clear to see in the scriptures.
because they teach Muslim and catholic adore the same God.

I believe Vatican prepare for one world religion to support one world government, the government of the Antichrist.

That make me believe that second beast in the revelation 13 is Pope.

Why they prepare one world religion if not for this purpose?

LUMEN GENTIUM II/16

16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.
 
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The prophetic scriptures do not present a "one world government and related religion" formed by the Pope, his church, and some sort of Euro-centric dictator

The RCC religious ambitions will never be met and neither will western interests form a one world government

The Middle East will be the nesting of all of this, but those involved will have a very short and more limited reach until their adventure end in abject failure
 

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Revelation 13:7 & 13,

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. And authority was given him over all tribes, and peoples and languages, and nations."


"And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."
 
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It is going to be more than mere men can muster

The power of Satan and his beast will be far greater than any invention of human design [Revelation 13:1-4]


Islam their dupe .... the Pope their victim
 

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It is going to be more than mere men can muster

The power of Satan and his beast will be far greater than any invention of human design [Revelation 13:1-4]
Revelation 13:1-4, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the names of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was similar to a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion; and the dragon gave him his power, and his throne, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads, as it were, wounded to death. And his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered; followed, after the beast. And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying: Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

 

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The prophetic scriptures do not present a "one world government and related religion" formed by the Pope, his church, and some sort of Euro-centric dictator

The RCC religious ambitions will never be met and neither will western interests form a one world government

The Middle East will be the nesting of all of this, but those involved will have a very short and more limited reach until their adventure end in abject failure
Rev 13
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Power to All nation, must be one world government.

All that dwelt upon the earth shall worship him. All nation have one religion/one world religion.

Vatican has ambition on one world Government and religion. these are the link and there are more than 15 million article when I Google it.

[h=3]The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes[/h]www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/


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Oct 25, 2011 - ... from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government: ... preparing us for the life after this one that's no bad thing of course, ...



[h=3]Vatican calls for world government and a New World Order[/h]www.activistpost.com/2012/.../vatican-calls-for-world-government-and.h...




Dec 10, 2012 - It was reported that the Vatican sought “a supranational authority” .... now this satanic worshiper of lucifer wants a one world government no ...



[h=3]A New World Order Is Coming Soon! - Who Will Usher It In?[/h]www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican08.htm




Martin, a former Jesuit and professor at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute ... left on the scene and the Vatican working to bring about a one-world government, ... "'We are not accustomed to witnessing so many events like these, we did not ...



[h=3]WHOOPS! Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government[/h]www.businessinsider.com/whoops-vatican-lets-slip-plans...


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Oct 24, 2011 - Vatican Lets Slip Plans For One World Government ... The second factor is the need for a minimum, shared body of rules to manage the global ...
 
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Will never happen

The ancient neo-Babylonian Empire ruled the "whole earth" in the Middle East according to the prophets ..... however the earth had populations of people spread across the globe at the time

Learn to read the prophets and understand that their visions had focus
 

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[h=3]Pope says it is wrong to equate Islam with violence | Pamela ...[/h]https://pamelageller.com/.../pope-says-it-is-wrong-to-equat...


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19 hours ago - Pope: 'Don't shut door to dialogue with ISIS (Islamic State)' ... PopeFrancis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong and .... like it already is right now all over the spineless, gutless, believe in nothing, ..
 
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If the Pope said that he is either ignorant or he is an appeaser

Maybe both .... he is worried about loosing his head, but may not reveal this in public
 
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If the Pope said that he is either ignorant or he is an appeaser

Maybe both .... he is worried about loosing his head, but may not reveal this in public

Well he is the one who has stated to allow both Muslims and Christians to start worshiping together.

That just goes along with how most biblical scholars have placed the false prophet character of the tribulation period as being a future pope. The image of the beast with two horns given in biblical prophecy has been for a long time slated to stand for an apostasy church mixed with another false religion.
Even when I was in the Catholic church for 5 years in the RCIA classes I took they showed how even they believe a future pope to be the false prophet. I mentioned this to other Catholic's on here, and some of them went hateful and crazy toward me. Sorry that is what their own classes taught.
 

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If the Pope said that he is either ignorant or he is an appeaser

Maybe both .... he is worried about loosing his head, but may not reveal this in public
I believe he want to make a peace with Islam in the context of one world religion.



  1. [h=3]The Pope's Push for a One-World Religion[/h]www.reachingcatholics.org/pope.html




    One of the greatest dangers to Christianity today is the deliberate ... The twenty-first century church needs strong leaders like the apostle Paul. ... to recognize the Pope as the supreme authority of a new global church (6/99 CRN News).


 
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Well he is the one who has stated to allow both Muslims and Christians to start worshiping together.

That just goes along with how most biblical scholars have placed the false prophet character of the tribulation period as being a future pope. The image of the beast with two horns given in biblical prophecy has been for a long time slated to stand for an apostasy church mixed with another false religion.
Even when I was in the Catholic church for 5 years in the RCIA classes I took they showed how even they believe a future pope to be the false prophet. I mentioned this to other Catholic's on here, and some of them went hateful and crazy toward me. Sorry that is what their own classes taught.
I think the two horns on the false prophet represent a reunified Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox pseudo religion which points to the Islamic 12th Imam which is the beast/little horn of Daniel, Revelation....
 
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I think the two horns on the false prophet represent a reunified Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox pseudo religion which points to the Islamic 12th Imam which is the beast/little horn of Daniel, Revelation....

Perry Stone gave a sermon on this topic of the beast with two horns, false prophet, and antichrist. Which can be found on youtube, but he did this sermon back in 2003 and again in 2007. What he said about the false prophet and the image of the beast with two horns and what it is symbolic of to him, is exactly what the pope and Catholic church has done this year.
 
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Has the pope and his "church" done these things? [Revelation 13:11]

Give me a break

The Pope is nothing more than a talking head running around in a white dress and a funny looking hat

..... trying to bolster his dwindling membership

His eastern contingent is being swallowed up by radical Islamic terrorists as we speak, and if they could catch him they would cut his head off and put it on a stick

The second beast [false prophet] from the land is just as the first .... not human

And this beast will operate thru two human clerics like the first thru 10 the little horn and 10 other human kings

..... and not a Pope of the RCC
 

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Has the pope and his "church" done these things? [Revelation 13:11]

Give me a break

The Pope is nothing more than a talking head running around in a white dress and a funny looking hat

..... trying to bolster his dwindling membership

His eastern contingent is being swallowed up by radical Islamic terrorists as we speak, and if they could catch him they would cut his head off and put it on a stick

The second beast [false prophet] from the land is just as the first .... not human

And this beast will operate thru two human clerics like the first thru 10 the little horn and 10 other human kings

..... and not a Pope of the RCC
[h=1]Revelation 13:11King James Version (KJV)[/h]11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.



  1. [h=3]Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too![/h]www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id...


    Roman Catholic Church



    May 30, 2013 - Pope Francis has good news for atheists. Jesus died and was raised for them as well. His redemptive embrace was for all, not just a chosen ...


Pope says it is wrong to equate Islam with violence | Pamela ...

https://pamelageller.com/.../pope-says-it-is-wrong-to-equat...
 
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'Islam inside the Vatican...' nuf said.

[video=youtube;ABnzS7wmP9k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABnzS7wmP9k[/video]
 
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