Not anti-Semitism but biblical fact the Jews murdered the Christ, Acts 2:23; 2 Thess 2:15; Acts 7:52. The OT is a written history of the Jews rejecting God time and again and when the Jews finally rejected Christ, God cast them off while grafting in the Gentiles, Rom 11 thereby making the true Jew those Jews and Gentiles that become Christians and the church the spiritual Israel, Rom 2:28,29; Gal 6:16; Rom 9:6
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Romans 11 states that not ALL Jewish people were cast off, proven by Paul being a Jew himself.
It does not promote anything further than the understanding that everyone, including natural born Israelites, have the ability to be redeemed, and that God has reserved a remnant of Jews to be saved for the sake of their ancestors.
It does make it clear that race no longer affects salvation (actually never did).
Your understanding of Romans 11 denies the rest of Scripture. You are reading INTO the text, not drawing FROM it.
It does not promote anything further than the understanding that everyone, including natural born Israelites, have the ability to be redeemed, and that God has reserved a remnant of Jews to be saved for the sake of their ancestors.
It does make it clear that race no longer affects salvation (actually never did).
Your understanding of Romans 11 denies the rest of Scripture. You are reading INTO the text, not drawing FROM it.
torah, yahweh's word, unchanged for all time, with an unchangeable blessing, and an unchangeable curse>
[h=1] Genesis 12:3Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)[/h] [SUP]3 [/SUP]I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) Copyright © 1998 by David H. Stern. All rights reserved.
yes ma'am, the truth has set us free !
[h=1] Genesis 12:3Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)[/h] [SUP]3 [/SUP]I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) Copyright © 1998 by David H. Stern. All rights reserved.
yes ma'am, the truth has set us free !
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Romans says they will be restored.
I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b]5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
7 What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain.The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, 8 as it is written:
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”[c]
11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all!Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!
17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[g]
28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h]receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
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Unless the bloodline is the Blood of Christ that covers us.
It is important to understand that God's version of who is who's child, and the lineage of inheritance, and bloodline are not genetic, nor were they ever. He always claimed whoever he wanted as the heir, regardless of birth order or lineage.
Jesus explained this principle very clearly in John 8 and Matthew 3.
It is important to understand that God's version of who is who's child, and the lineage of inheritance, and bloodline are not genetic, nor were they ever. He always claimed whoever he wanted as the heir, regardless of birth order or lineage.
Jesus explained this principle very clearly in John 8 and Matthew 3.
(facetiously) "i wonder if yahweh has any plans for tomorrow for the people he chose ..... ? " (too obviously yes?)
(not facetiously) since yahshua won't return until they all cry out with one heart and soul and mind "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF ADONIA! " i certainly believe completely so, and hope beyond hope by faith in yahshua so... ---
and
anyone with any life in them, or any sense, had better pray and hope so also .....
(not facetiously) since yahshua won't return until they all cry out with one heart and soul and mind "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF ADONIA! " i certainly believe completely so, and hope beyond hope by faith in yahshua so... ---
and
anyone with any life in them, or any sense, had better pray and hope so also .....
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anti zionism is sinful?
Zionism is some distorted stuff.
Go on. Build a kingdom for the antichrist.
I'm gonna fulfill the Great Commision, while you can pretend to be Jesus gathering a false people together.
The true Israel will be gathered by Christ Himself. The false Israel will just be led to Babylon, and ultimately destruction.
Who's side are you people on? We weren't called to ship Jews back to Canaan. We were called to spread the Gospel.
We weren't called to build an earthly kingdom, but build the Kingdom of Heaven.
We weren't called to get involved in worldly affairs, but to do the work of the Kingdom.
Zionism is political, and is a distraction to the Gospel.
Zionism is some distorted stuff.
Go on. Build a kingdom for the antichrist.
I'm gonna fulfill the Great Commision, while you can pretend to be Jesus gathering a false people together.
The true Israel will be gathered by Christ Himself. The false Israel will just be led to Babylon, and ultimately destruction.
Who's side are you people on? We weren't called to ship Jews back to Canaan. We were called to spread the Gospel.
We weren't called to build an earthly kingdom, but build the Kingdom of Heaven.
We weren't called to get involved in worldly affairs, but to do the work of the Kingdom.
Zionism is political, and is a distraction to the Gospel.
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the beliefs you are describing are 'christian zionism'...which is not the original form of zionism or the only form of zionism around today...and the doctrinal errors of christian zionism should not be used to dismiss the moral good of zionism in general...which is just the belief that the jewish people should not be discriminated against but instead allowed to have the same right of self determination that we recognize for other peoples...
unless you reject the principle of sovereign statehood in general...and unless you are anti uzbekistani and anti korean and so on...then being anti zionist is a form of discrimination and racism against one particular people...which is a sin...
unless you reject the principle of sovereign statehood in general...and unless you are anti uzbekistani and anti korean and so on...then being anti zionist is a form of discrimination and racism against one particular people...which is a sin...
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I have no problem with self-identification and self-government of a united group.
I suppose I associate the term "zionism" with people in America throwing money at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and donating money to organizations that send Jews back to Israel.
Sorry if our definitions crossed.
Rather than being Anti any of those things, I think that as Christians we are supposed to stay out of such political minded opinions that have no spiritual value, and only cause wars.
I suppose I associate the term "zionism" with people in America throwing money at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and donating money to organizations that send Jews back to Israel.
Sorry if our definitions crossed.
Rather than being Anti any of those things, I think that as Christians we are supposed to stay out of such political minded opinions that have no spiritual value, and only cause wars.