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here is my view: Paul talked about things that had happened in those verses that you mentioned. not things that might happen. when you judge the POTINTIAL of sin, this is what is called being judgemental. so, you have you use the Bible , not just certain verses, but as whole. Jason, I admire your commitment, but you are mis-guided. we should be careful not to sin, but neither should we judge what might happen.
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The best advice I have to share is always Pray about things first and be still and open to hear GOD's response. Nothing is wrong with asking this female to the prom, but now if you are seeking more as in having her as a girlfriend then I would suggest that at a tender age of 16 you have so much more time to seek in that area. Use your youth be become strong in the LORD, in HIS WORD, in Character etc.. This helps build you as a man of GOD ready for not just being ones date but ones husband and allow the same for the female Godly maturity is a must and a beautiful thing :")
I applaud you for coming here and seeking wisdom from those with experience then from your peers who are struggling with the same issue always seek wisdom from those seasoned for the Bible tells us in Titus 2
Blessings!!!!!!!
I applaud you for coming here and seeking wisdom from those with experience then from your peers who are struggling with the same issue always seek wisdom from those seasoned for the Bible tells us in Titus 2
Blessings!!!!!!!
However, your view is not what the Bible says, though. Paul clearly warns us about not falling into potential sin. For example, Paul warns us of the dangers of loving money. He said some have coveted after it and have erred from the faith. Meaning, they had faith and they turned away from the faith. They erred. Then Paul admonishes that the man of God should flee these type of things and he is to follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, etc. instead.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses."
(1 Timothy 6:10-12).
In other words, Paul is warning against the potential to sin of loving money for the believer here. For he is telling them to flee these things before any bad (like piercing oneself thru with many sorrows) can happen.
Here is another passage where Paul warns us to flee potential sin:
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
(1 Corinthians 6:18-20).
Paul tells us to flee a particular sin (Which in this case is Fornication). This is the potential to sin. He is telling us to flee it before it can happen. In addition, in the 1st epistle of John, he warns us to keep ourselves from idols.
"Keep yourselves from idols." (1 John 5:21).
Again, this is a warning not to fall prey to a particular sin that has not happened yet. So no, I do not see your view in Scripture in warning others against not fleeing potential sins. We are to keep ourselves in love of God. For we know the Scriptures say that without holiness no man shall see the Lord.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses."
(1 Timothy 6:10-12).
In other words, Paul is warning against the potential to sin of loving money for the believer here. For he is telling them to flee these things before any bad (like piercing oneself thru with many sorrows) can happen.
Here is another passage where Paul warns us to flee potential sin:
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
(1 Corinthians 6:18-20).
Paul tells us to flee a particular sin (Which in this case is Fornication). This is the potential to sin. He is telling us to flee it before it can happen. In addition, in the 1st epistle of John, he warns us to keep ourselves from idols.
"Keep yourselves from idols." (1 John 5:21).
Again, this is a warning not to fall prey to a particular sin that has not happened yet. So no, I do not see your view in Scripture in warning others against not fleeing potential sins. We are to keep ourselves in love of God. For we know the Scriptures say that without holiness no man shall see the Lord.
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I disagree. While it may not be wrong to be around an unbeliever in every case (Obviously) (For Jesus was around sinners to evangerlize them) it would be wrong in asking a female to the prom if they
(a) know they might fall prey to temptation in being with her and or
(b) if they are focused on making an intimate connection with them as a believer.
Both views are not supported in Scripture. Believers are to have fellowship with believers and not unbelievers. Yes, we can be around unbelievers, but our goal is to always evangelize them in being with them and not in just hanging out with them for no real good reason. The Scriptures say we are holy and separate. I am wondering if any people here actually believe that verse and many others.
(a) know they might fall prey to temptation in being with her and or
(b) if they are focused on making an intimate connection with them as a believer.
Both views are not supported in Scripture. Believers are to have fellowship with believers and not unbelievers. Yes, we can be around unbelievers, but our goal is to always evangelize them in being with them and not in just hanging out with them for no real good reason. The Scriptures say we are holy and separate. I am wondering if any people here actually believe that verse and many others.
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but here is the point Jason: at some point we all have to look inside ourselves with the Sprit and see if there is anything unclean inside, as David said. so, not lusting, understanding that I can be friends with non-believers but not act like them, not loving money, etc... these are personal issuses that blanket rules will not fix. as Paul said judge yourself that you not be judged. so just yelling don't do this, don't do that does not keep one from sin. instuctions are important, and needed but at some point what is on the Inside, or the inner man, is what determines sin or not.
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You and I are probably never gonna see eye to eye primarily because you over spiritualize everything to the detriment of relationship....at least on this forum. I hope you are not like that in your personal relationships. Over spiritualizing is unspiritual and you can't wash people's feet when you are looking down on them from your high horse.
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he might well want to wash the foot right...
he might be hooked on exactly those things christ spoke some forgot, some real weight things...
verse anyone?
good afternoon :s
he might be hooked on exactly those things christ spoke some forgot, some real weight things...
verse anyone?
good afternoon :s
Jesus washed his disciples feet. Christ's disciples were not abiding in unrepentant sin and or rebelling against Him. They were not fornicating or stealing or doing all manner of sins. The washing of their feet had a symbolic meaning in the fact that Christ forgiven them of past sin and could continue to cleanse them if they come to him to be clean (i.e. to confess their sins). Jesus was not cleaning people's feet who still were abiding in sin and refused to repent. That wouldn't make any sense.
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I probably will ask her out but apparently I should get to know her a bit more first it's still over four months away
it's still over four months away