Shoud I ask a girl out?

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The holy ghost sees many things as bad: it's all written in the first 5 books of the bible.
By your continual avoidance in my answer, I am assuming you do not regard anything written by Paul as authorative as God's Word.
 
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why do you keep arguing with Jason? I told you that you won't get anywhere with him.. this thread is 16 pages of derailment from the OP's original question. If you're tired of bickering with Jason, then put him on ignore and get this thread back on it's original track.. :/
Is it so wrong to hope that a light bulb will come on for Jason??? However dimly it may be lit? I realize it might be an exercise in futility but I've never backed down from a challenge. Lol
 
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Are you able to carry on normal conversation at all? You're taking this young mans desire to take a young girl to the prom to the worst case scenario... And that is what everyone is trying to tell you. You have completely ostracized yourself and exhibited anti social behavior repeatedly throughout this thread and others. I hope that someday you can have a cup of coffee with someone without praising God ad nauseam about how grateful and blessed you are for your most glorious cup of coffee.

Now feel free to twist and manipulate what I just said in the over spiritualizing way you do so well.
God wants you to acknowledge Him in everything you do (For I can do all things thru Christ which strengthens me). Our life here is in service to Him and not ourselves. If I have alienated anyone, it is only those who do not have a regard for what Scripture actually says. For surely it is better to play it safe with one's walk with God then to do something that can potentially hurt your relationship with Him. In other words, it's like letting your child not doing certain things that can be potentially dangerous. Yes, there is a point where they need to do things themselves, but there has to be a level of care on the part of the parents to not let them do certain things so as to protect their child from harm. It's the same with God and His good ways. Doing the best possible good for the Lord in every given situation should not be criticized but it should be encouraged.
 
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Is it so wrong to hope that a light bulb will come on for Jason??? However dimly it may be lit? I realize it might be an exercise in futility but I've never backed down from a challenge. Lol
I will be praying for you to see where I am coming from. So hopefully the Lord will give you a little light on this matter.
 

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Is it so wrong to hope that a light bulb will come on for Jason??? However dimly it may be lit? I realize it might be an exercise in futility but I've never backed down from a challenge. Lol

yeah but it's not right to derail BritishDaves thread this far.. :(
 
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yeah but it's not right to derail BritishDaves thread this far.. :(
It's not a derail. It's an answer to the question he asked. Shoud he take this girl out to the prom. I answered with Scripture and will continue to do so. Now, if I started talking about the Nephilim or Giants, then that would be an off topic discussion. So I really do not see where you are coming from.
 

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Why can't you guys just start a new thread since this clearly has taken a different direction. What's next? Debate on leaving a door open for a woman?
 
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Again, I am on topic (except in answering briefly those people who are attempting to change the subject). I have given my views as to why I would not take an unbeliever to the prom as a date (or even to date). While it is not a law or commandment not to date an unbeliever, we are not given the okay in Scripture to marry unbelievers or to have close fellowship with them. In fact, the Scripture suggests otherwise. So while we have a liberty in Christ, not all things are profitable. I believe asking an unbeliever on a date falls under this category. I believe it is better to walk the higher road with the Lord instead of taking your chances.
 
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then have your beliefs. that is your right. but if someone disagrees, do not cast them as a un-saved person or not knowing scripture. your ways are not the only ways. The Bible gives clear principles but there is different methods of holding them.
 

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I believe it is better to walk the higher road with the Lord instead of taking your chances.
Who knows how much further we'll go on
Maybe I'll be sorry when you're gone
I'll take my chances
I forgot how nice romance is
I haven't been there for the longest time


Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The guy who hid the talent in the ground from fear of his master was afraid to take a chance as well.
 
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God wants you to acknowledge Him in everything you do (For I can do all things thru Christ which strengthens me). Our life here is in service to Him and not ourselves. If I have alienated anyone, it is only those who do not have a regard for what Scripture actually says. For surely it is better to play it safe with one's walk with God then to do something that can potentially hurt your relationship with Him. In other words, it's like letting your child not doing certain things that can be potentially dangerous. Yes, there is a point where they need to do things themselves, but there has to be a level of care on the part of the parents to not let them do certain things so as to protect their child from harm. It's the same with God and His good ways. Doing the best possible good for the Lord in every given situation should not be criticized but it should be encouraged.

Blue said I'm not supposed to talk you anymore.
 
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Who knows how much further we'll go on
Maybe I'll be sorry when you're gone
I'll take my chances
I forgot how nice romance is
I haven't been there for the longest time


Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The guy who hid the talent in the ground from fear of his master was afraid to take a chance as well.
Not sure what you are saying exactly here. However, it is better to take a chance on God than to take a chance on getting hooked up with an unbelieving woman.
 
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Who knows how much further we'll go on
Maybe I'll be sorry when you're gone
I'll take my chances
I forgot how nice romance is
I haven't been there for the longest time


Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The guy who hid the talent in the ground from fear of his master was afraid to take a chance as well.
Yup. And the master was displeased. As with anything good that God has made, it can be fashioned into an idol. I knew a man who became so pious about his quiet time with Jesus he had to reconfigure it so that it wasn't a source of pride for him.
 

blue_ladybug

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Not sure what you are saying exactly here. However, it is better to take a chance on God than to take a chance on getting hooked up with an unbelieving woman.
she's not a woman, she's a 16 or 17 year old KID.. I get where ur coming from, but he doesn't want anything from her beyond taking her to prom. You act like he's gonna take her to a hotel or something. Keep in mind that he is only 16..
 
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i did not.. i said WHY do u still talk to him and argue? if ur gonna quote me, get it right.. :eek:
Lol. If I wanna blame you it is within my rights. I tell my kids to blame me to their friends all the time.
 
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then have your beliefs. that is your right. but if someone disagrees, do not cast them as a un-saved person or not knowing scripture. your ways are not the only ways. The Bible gives clear principles but there is different methods of holding them.
Where did I say that he was unsaved? I never said that. What I am saying is that while he has a liberty in Christ to ask her on a date so as to lead her to the Lord, he does not have a liberty to date her for carnal based reasons or with a worldly based mindset. God has to be involved at some point soon in the connection being made with this person he wants to ask out. If not, then it is a wrong type of relationship that is not God focused but worldly focused.
 

blue_ladybug

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Lol. If I wanna blame you it is within my rights. I tell my kids to blame me to their friends all the time.

thank goodness I'm not one of your kids..lol.. I get enough flack on here wo getting blamed for somethin' i didn't even say. :eek:
 
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Where did I say that he was unsaved? I never said that. What I am saying is that while he has a liberty in Christ to ask her on a date so as to lead her to the Lord, he does not have a liberty to date her for carnal based reasons or with a worldly based mindset. God has to be involved at some point soon in the connection being made with this person he wants to ask out. If not, then it is a wrong type of relationship that is not God focused but worldly focused.
How is any of this even your call to make? Especially thru bits and bytes tossed into the cyber sea. I think you are getting yourself confused with the Holy Spirit.
 
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she's not a woman, she's a 16 or 17 year old KID.. I get where ur coming from, but he doesn't want anything from her beyond taking her to prom. You act like he's gonna take her to a hotel or something. Keep in mind that he is only 16..
At this age, kids are having kids. When that happens, they have to grow up fast (Which changes their life entirely). For the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked and who can know it? This is why only the Lord knows a person's heart and not you. For example: Who would have ever thought David (a man after God's own heart and who took down the giant named "Goliath") would have ever committed murder and adultery? That is what I am talking about. Even a great man of God like David was not free from falling into temptation or sin. So it is best to avoid such a scenario that could lead one down the wrong path. Again, I am not saying he cannot ask her out on a date. But it must be with the focus of trying to evangelize her. It must be with the focus that he will not build any attachment to her unless she becomes a believer. For what fellowship does light have with darkness? For I guarantee you, that his time will not be fruitful for God's purposes and plans if he focuses on just pleasing his carnal or worldly nature with her (Whether it appears to be just a harmless date or in doing more than that).
 
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