I have hurt God :(

[Jason0047]

Do you even care that you upset a lot of good people here?

Jesus said he came not to send peace but a sword. In fact, Scripture even says we would be persecuted verbally and even sometimes physically for preaching the truth of God's Word. I have posted Scripture to support what I have been saying. Why are you making this about me instead of discussing the Scriptures? For everything I have said is backed up by God's Word. If you disagree, then lets talk Bible and not personal opinion.

You may bring the greatest posts?....IDK?.......but have you ever considered it just might be all about your presentation? Your vibe?
You really believe God called you to debate OTHER Christians? All day?

There is a whole world out there that needs to hear it.
Why upset people who are already on their walk with the Lord, Jason?

Jesus said to Peter, if you love me..... feed my sheep.

 

[Reborn]

Do you even care that you upset a lot of good people here?

You may bring the greatest posts?....IDK?.......but have you ever considered it just might be all about your presentation? Your vibe?
You really believe God called you to debate OTHER Christians? All day?

There is a whole world out there that needs to hear it.
Why upset people who are already on their walk with the Lord, Jason?

Actually, no need to answer that.

Obviously you don't care.

You have admitted that you wanted to preach at one point....but it didnt work out, so you will force it against Gods will, l guess?
BTW, whats the Bible say about going against Gods will?
Sin?
Repent yet?

 

[Jason0047]

The Psalms are inspired by God. God moved thru men of God to write them. Many of the Old Testament Psalms alluded to Jesus. But nowhere does God require us to write our own Psalms now. It's not that God forbids us in doing so. For we can surely write songs to glorify God. We can even write poems, too. But seeing we are under a New Covenant, our focus should always be Jesus Christ when we write, though. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. Our focus is in spreading the good news because we love God and other people. Our focus is in glorifying God and His Word and not our own handiwork. For God's Word is complete. We should lift up God's Word instead of our own words. In other words, if your poems are inspired by the Word of God and in spreading the message of salvation in Jesus Christ and you see good fruit as a result of such a thing, then by all means.... continue on. But nowhere is there a Command to write poems for God as being more important than telling others about the truth of the gospel and Biblical repentance. Unless I misunderstood what she said, he is saying that writing lots of poems is better than discussing about the defense of one's own soul with others here.

Sorry. Meant to say..... "she." That was a mispelling.

 

[Jason0047]

Actually, no need to answer that.

Too late. I already answered before you replied here.

Obviously you don't care.

If I didn't care about loving people then I wouldn't be telling them that they should preach the gospel and true Biblical repentance (In turning from their wicked ways). If I didn't care about them, I would be jumping at every chance I get to slander them falsely. But that is not my way. I am commanded by God to love all people and to lead them to the truth of God's Word. Believers are to preach the gospel and to tell others to repent or to turn from evil and sin. For it will not be my own words that will condemn anyone but God's Word will condemn people on Judgment Day.

ou have admitted that you wanted to preach at one point....but it didnt work out,

Where did you read that? I never said such a thing. I said I desired to be a Pastor in the past, but realized in time with my walk with God that it is not my calling to have a church, etc. Nowhere did I ever say that I tried to be a Pastor and it just didn't work out for me.

so you will force it against Gods will, l guess?

Preaching the good news is a part of the great commission for all believers.

BTW, whats the Bible say about going against Gods will?
Sin? Repent yet?

Do you believe in Biblical repentance? What is your definition of it according to the Bible? Does it line up with Jesus' definition of Repentance? Would you like to see verses that support Jesus' definition of repentance? If you missed it, I have already talked about this within this very thread.

 

[Reborn]

Too late. I already answered before you replied here.



If I didn't care about people loving others in telling them to preach the gospel and Biblical repentance (In turning from their wicked was) then I would not be here. If I didn't care about them, I would be jumping at every chance I get to slander them falsely. But that is not my way. I am commanded by God to love all people and to lead them to the truth of God's Word. For it will not be my own words that will condemn anyone but God's Word will condemn people on Judgment Day.



Where did you read that? I never said such a thing. I said I desired to be a Pastor in the past, but realized in time with my walk with God that it is not my calling to have a church, etc. Nowhere did I ever say that I tried to be a Pastor and it just didn't work out for me.



Preaching the good news is a part of the great commission for all believers.



Do you believe in Biblical repentance? What is your definition of it according to the Bible? Does it line up with Jesus' definition of Repentance? Would you like to see verses that support Jesus' definition of repentance? If you missed it, I have already talked about this within this very thread.

I will ask again.

How can most or all be called to spread the Word....when they themselves, are confused on its message? I will never get that.
Do we teach what we know, then once we are corrected on a point...run back and apologize to anyone that we misled on that same point?

What is the truth, and what makes you so sure you have it all?
Enough to be a teacher?
Its an "oh well" type attitude.
The blind can't lead the blind.
Not all can or should teach.

You've mistaken resistance to your messages as 'hating the truth",but have you ever considered that you actually may be wrong on a lot?
If the masses come at you....at some point you have to face up to the fact that maybe its not them....



It's you.

 

[Jason0047]

I will ask again.

How can most or all be called to spread the Word....when they themselves, are confused on its message? I will never get that.
Do we teach what we know, then once we are corrected on a point...run back and apologize to anyone that we misled on that same point?

What is the truth, and what makes you so sure you have it all?
Enough to be a teacher?
Its an "oh well" type attitude.
The blind can't lead the blind.
Not all can or should teach.

You've mistaken resistance to your messages as 'hating the truth",but have you ever considered that you actually may be wrong on a lot?
If the masses come at you....at some point you have to face up to the fact that maybe its not them....



It's you.

Again, you offer only opinion. However, opinion is not going to matter on Judgment Day. God's Word is going to judge people on Judgement Day. So what will matter is if you abided in Christ and His Word or not. For Jesus said the reason why they wanted to kill him was because His Word did not abide in them. This means, they were not in obedience to God's Word (i.e. the Scriptures).

In other words, God's Word matters to His people. So they will talk about His Word and discuss it with other believers, rather than throwing stones at them. For Jesus was almost attacked several times for preaching the Word of God. The same held true for the apostles. It is no different today with God's people, too.

 

[Reborn]

Again, you offer only opinion. However, opinion is not going to matter on Judgment Day. God's Word is going to judge people on Judgement Day. So what will matter is if you abided in Christ and His Word or not. For Jesus said the reason why they wanted to kill him was because His Word did not abide in them. This means, they were not in obedience to God's Word (i.e. the Scriptures).

In other words, God's Word matters to His people. So they will talk about His Word and discuss it with other believers, rather than throwing stones at them.

Sorry.
My bad.....l meant to state, of course l believe that all can speak on the Gospels basic message.
God leads from there.

Not all are called to teach.

 

[Jason0047]

Sorry.
My bad.....l meant to state, of course l believe that all can speak on the Gospels basic message.
God leads from there.

It's okay. I understand.

Not all are called to teach.

I believe God gives that ability to teach to believers if that is their calling. In other words, I don't believe I would be able to write some of things I have written with God's Word if it was not for God.

So may all the praise, glory, honor, and power go unto Him (For what I have written that glorifies His Word) and may my name fade into the dust and be as nothing. For without Christ, I am nothing. For Christ is our everything.

 

[psychomom]

i'm in the mood to post this again.

For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.

For it is not he who commends himself that is approved, but he whom the Lord commends.
(2 Cor 10:12, 18)

sky---- i love you very much. ♥

 

[Jason0047]

i'm in the mood to post this again.

For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.

For it is not he who commends himself that is approved, but he whom the Lord commends.
(2 Cor 10:12, 18)

sky---- i love you very much. ♥

If you are writing to me.... I did not commend myself at all. No, no. Most certainly not. If you were to read all of what I wrote carefully.... I said I am nothing and Christ is everything. Everything that I have and have done good for the cause of Christ is all Jesus Christ working in me. I cannot lay claim to anything good. For only God is good. Only God deserves all the praise. Hence, why I praised Him and not myself. For I am nothing. Christ is everything.

For even Paul said he labored more than all his brethren, but it was not himself, but the grace of God that was within him (1 Corinthians 15:10).

 

[VioletReigns]

Using the same logic, you should ignore the Scriptures as well, for most of Scriptures speaks of Hell and condemnation. Jason is only trying to warn a generation that thinks a little bit of sinning is NOT OK. It is written a little bit a leaven will leaven the whole lump. It is also written a good tree does not produce any bad fruit. ANY bad fruit. So you may be ignoring the very person who is trying to help you. Usually people who have a problem with the sinning, are those who are not willing to cease from them.
Is it so wrong about teaching against sin to a carnal generation? i mean i would not teach against drinking alcohol to a group who never drank, now would i? So then it is only right and just to teach against sinning to a group who continue to live in sin, and use Jesus Christ as an excuse to continue to live in those sins. When Scriptures plainly teach whose sins are washed by HIs Blood.

1Jn 1:7 But IF (Conditional) we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

When does the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin? Man teaches as soon as you get Saved, all your sins past, present, and future are forgiven, but Scriptures teach contrary to what men teach, Scriptures teach the blood of Jesus cleanseth us from all sin when we are walking in the light as Jesus did. Anyone who knowingly and willingly commits sin is NOT walking in the light, but in darkness, therefore not cleansed by His Blood. Seems to me, those who doubt that Truth, it would be in their best interest to study the Scriptures for themselves and see if these things are true or not, instead of hearkening to men and what they teach. Your Salvation is at stake here. You can either believe men and what they teach or believe the Scriptures and what they teach, the chose is yours to make.

^i^ Responding to post #86

LOGIC, you say?? Seriously?? Ok Dave, you sound like a religious hypnotist. Honestly, I can't distinguish anything in your rambling post resembling exalting Christ Jesus as LORD of all. You're all over the place between condemnation and hysteria.

I'm going to have to put you on ignore as well because I can't debate with this sort of thing anymore. I hope you awake from your legalistic gobbledygook soon.

 

[psychomom]

If you are writing to me.... I did not commend myself at all. No, no. Most certainly not. If you were to read all of what I wrote carefully.... I said I am nothing and Christ is everything. Everything that I have and have done good for the cause of Christ is all Jesus Christ working in me. I cannot lay claim to anything good. For only God is good. Only God deserves all the praise. Hence, why I praised Him and not myself. For I am nothing. Christ is everything.

nooo...not specifically to you, Jason.
but here's the part you may have missed:

but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.

 

[skylove7]

i'm in the mood to post this again.

For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; but when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding.

For it is not he who commends himself that is approved, but he whom the Lord commends.
(2 Cor 10:12, 18)

sky---- i love you very much. ♥

awww...I love you too Ellie...Very much!

 

[Reborn]

It's okay. I understand.



I believe God gives that ability to teach to believers if that is their calling. In other words, I don't believe I would be able to write some of things I have written with God's Word if it was not for God.

So may all the praise, glory, honor, and power go unto Him (For what I have written that glorifies His Word) and may my name fade into the dust and be as nothing. For without Christ, I am nothing. For Christ is our everything.

If you are writing to me.... I did not commend myself at all. No, no. Most certainly not. If you were to read all of what I wrote carefully.... I said I am nothing and Christ is everything. Everything that I have and have done good for the cause of Christ is all Jesus Christ working in me. I cannot lay claim to anything good. For only God is good. Only God deserves all the praise. Hence, why I praised Him and not myself. For I am nothing. Christ is everything.

For even Paul said he labored more than all his brethren, but it was not himself, but the grace of God that was within him (1 Corinthians 15:10).

This is a good stopping point.
Some of what you wrote above, l can agree with, see or respect.

I wont say what though.
I don't want to toot your horn.
That's a joke.

Agreeing on a point or two?......that's a major step for you and l.
Have a good day, Jason.

 

[Jason0047]

LOGIC, you say?? Seriously?? Ok Dave, you sound like a religious hypnotist. Honestly, I can't distinguish anything in your rambling post resembling exalting Christ Jesus as LORD of all. You're all over the place between condemnation and hysteria.

I'm going to have to put you on ignore as well because I can't debate with this sort of thing anymore. I hope you awake from your legalistic gobbledygook soon.

God is not against following that which is good and righteous because God is Holy. If God condoned his people to do evil and wickedness (Even a little bit of evil) then that would reflect badly back upon the character of God. But such a thing is not possible because God is good. God is just and fair and righteous. Paul even says we establish the Law. The Law of Moses? No. The Law of Christ (Galatians 6:2). The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). For even Paul says that what he has written should be considered as the Lord's Commandments. Commandments are laws. Also, Paul essentially says in 1 Timothy 6:3-4 that if any speaks contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing.

 

[Jason0047]

This is a good stopping point.
Some of what you wrote above, l can agree with, see or respect.

I wont say what though.
I don't want to toot your horn.
That's a joke.

Agreeing on a point or two?......that's a major step for you and l.
Have a good day, Jason.

You would not be tooting my horn. I am not telling you to think or do something that is not in God's Word. For I do not care if you agree with anything I say for you to do personally. You will not have to answer to me. What I do care about is if you agree with what God's Word says.

Anyways, I will be praying for you to understand where I am coming from.
May God's love shine upon you today.
And may you have a good day, too.

 

[skylove7]

If you are writing to me.... I did not commend myself at all. No, no. Most certainly not. If you were to read all of what I wrote carefully.... I said I am nothing and Christ is everything. Everything that I have and have done good for the cause of Christ is all Jesus Christ working in me. I cannot lay claim to anything good. For only God is good. Only God deserves all the praise. Hence, why I praised Him and not myself. For I am nothing. Christ is everything.

For even Paul said he labored more than all his brethren, but it was not himself, but the grace of God that was within him (1 Corinthians 15:10).

You always toot your own horn...puh-leeeez! So what if my calling is a poet and not a preacher. God loves me very much! Don't even respond to this post! I bow to my Christ...not your judgements! Good day to you!

 

[Jason0047]

You always toot your own horn...puh-leeeez! So what if my calling is a poet and not a preacher. God loves me very much! Don't even respond to this post! I bow to my Christ...not your judgements! Good day to you!

Please show me where I tooted my own horn and not the horn of Christ? If you cannot show me where I appear to be tooting my own horn alone, then I am going to assume that is a false accusation (Which would not be nice or a Christ like thing for you to do).

As for God's love: Well, God loves all people. He just doesn't like people's sin, though. I say what I did because Jesus Christ gave his disciples charge to preach the gospel to every creature. Yet, we know there were disciples that stopped following Jesus, though. So if we are a follower or disciple of Jesus Christ, we will want to tell others the good news of salvation and continue to follow in His good ways. It is not a burden but a privilege to do so. It's also a requirement, too. For Jesus says, "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." And Jesus also said if you continue in His Word, then you are his disciple indeed, too.

 

[Jason0047]

Jesus said his mother, brothers, and sisters were those who obeyed the will of the Father. Everything Jesus spoke were words give to Him by His Father. Jesus said if you abide in my words, then you are his disciples indeed. In other words, the will of the Father and the Son is in support of His people following the Word of God and not in rebelling against it.

 

[Jason0047]

Anyways, getting back on topic.

Dear Kat-6:

Please be encouraged that you can stop from being a slave to sin. 1 Peter 4:1 says if a believer suffers in the flesh, they can cease from sin. Jesus says, be ye perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. So Christ desires us to walk as He walked. Not by our own power or might but with Christ working within us. Christ also says, pray so as not to be led into temptation. 2 Timothy 3:16 says All Scripture is profitable so that it might make the man of God perfect. So trust in the Lord, and His Word, and His strength and you will gain victory so as to glorify Jesus Christ (Who is the One who works all good within you).

In any event, may God bless you.
And please be well.
I will be praying for you.