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Or better yet if i do divorce which i have biblical grounds and if i marry again find a woman who lines up with scripture.
 
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Or better yet if i do divorce which i have biblical grounds and if i marry again find a woman who lines up with scripture.
You are not to marry again, especially being a minister. Stay single or reconcile with your wife.

Luke 16:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
 
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It is not adultery if she is divorced over biblically grounded reasons.
 
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Mathew 19:3-9
 
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I have recently heard a sermon that stated a woman did not have to submit to her husband if he was mot living a Godly life. Is this biblical? My thoughts.... a woman does have to submit unless the husband is asking her to sin. By placing in the hands the option to submit by the woman you ate setting tbe marriage up for failure. Some women will use this against the husband and if he doesnt take out the trash she will not submit..... your thoughts.....
my thoughts and your thoughts and other's thoughts don't matter. what GOD says is what matters.

a lot of people make up alll kinds of excuses from "thoughts" instead of asking GOD what HE means if
they don't have understanding of HIS WORD. HIS WORD is clear. most don't read it, let alone understand it.
 
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It is not adultery if she is divorced over biblically grounded reasons.
yes, it is. check out the Jewish resources who are familiar with HEBREW language and customs that JESUS lived with and HIS people lived with and understood IN HIS WORD.

no excuses on judgment day are excepted or accepted, remember...... GOD's meaning is not "our thoughts" but HIS.
 
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Did you read what Jesus himself said in mathew 19: 3-9? I think that supercedes jewish resources.
 
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Submitting encompasses obedience. Just as my submitting to Christ would encompass my obedience to Him. How can anyone submit to God and refuse to follow His lead.
we'll see. most who are called 'christian' by the world, and think themselves saved, find out on judgment day that the one they submitted to was the enemy and not yahweh, but they were told they were saved,,,,,,
of course, it was the enemy of christ who told them they were saved, and their fellows with them on the wide road to destruction, but they refused to believe or accept that their own family, friends and religious leaders were lying to them, so they remained on the wide road to destruction until too late....

if they had followed yahshua's (Jesus') lead, listened to GOD instead of to man (whether b.g. or the pope or their priest or 'mary') if they had listened to GOD and repented, found the
narrow way to life in JESUS, they would have been saved by HIM. but they continually refuse(d).
 
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read it from or in line with GOD'S WORD as from the original sources-- not outside of yahshua nor outside of the BIBLE --

you have fallen for one of the oldest tricks of the enemy.

Did you read what Jesus himself said in mathew 19: 3-9? I think that supercedes jewish resources.
 
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You are not to marry again, especially being a minister. Stay single or reconcile with your wife.

Luke 16:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
amen. even in english...
 
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It is not adultery if she is divorced over biblically grounded reasons.
It is adultery if you remarry.

Says I again; stay single or reconcile with your wife.


Matthew 19:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Luke 16:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
 
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I think Jesus' word is good for me. Thanks.
 
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By gum, you are right! GO YOU!

Wait, aren't you the spiritual leader (head) of the family? Aren't you supposed to lead? How do you lead? Do you lead by example or edict?

I suppose I should answer your original question, should a wife submit to an unbelieving husband? Yes... unless it's illegal or immoral to do so, I believe she should. I know I submitted to my unbelieving husband.
It is adultery if you remarry.

Says I again; stay single or reconcile with your wife.


Matthew 19:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Luke 16:18

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
Mt 19:9 read it. Really it is not out og context with the other verses. Look at deut. 24.
 
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This is off topic. The topic is does a woman have to submit if she feels her husband is not living up to her standards for God.
 
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In my view,and I am no biblical scholar, but submission means to let go of your human sinful nature and its propensity for selfishness, pride etc etc and to do what is pleasing to God on any given circumstance....man or woman.
 
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Mt 19:9 read it. Really it is not out og context with the other verses. Look at deut. 24.
Jesus says to you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, AND SHALL MARRY ANOTHER, committeth adultery.

The context is even in Luke wherein Jesus says; Whosoever putteth away his wife, AND MARRIETH ANOTHER, committeth adultery.

Now I will not say to you a fourth time that which I have said thrice, but I will say to you now do not make the church into a brothel.
 
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In my view,and I am no biblical scholar, but submission means to let go of your human sinful nature and its propensity for selfishness, pride etc etc and to do what is pleasing to God on any given circumstance....man or woman.
And there are times when it is pleasing to God for a wife to tell her husband to pound sand.
 
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By gum, you are right! GO YOU!

Wait, aren't you the spiritual leader (head) of the family? Aren't you supposed to lead? How do you lead? Do you lead by example or edict?

I suppose I should answer your original question, should a wife submit to an unbelieving husband? Yes... unless it's illegal or immoral to do so, I believe she should. I know I submitted to my unbelieving husband.
Jesus says to you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, AND SHALL MARRY ANOTHER, committeth adultery.

The context is even in Luke wherein Jesus says; Whosoever putteth away his wife, AND MARRIETH ANOTHER, committeth adultery.

Now I will not say to you a fourth time that which I have said thrice, but I will say to you now do not make the church into a brothel.
i will not say it again but will emphasize for you. My wife is a cheating whore. I can name atleast fifty instances over the years. The last time was weeks before i left and even after. She makes me sick. All tne while of dealing with her cheating she refused to submit to her desires of spending money doing drugs and fornicating. She has fornicated i have biblical grounds. Therefore I can and may at one time remarry.
 
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i will not say it again but will emphasize for you. My wife is a cheating whore. I can name atleast fifty instances over the years. The last time was weeks before i left and even after. She makes me sick. All tne while of dealing with her cheating she refused to submit to her desires of spending money doing drugs and fornicating. She has fornicated i have biblical grounds. Therefore I can and may at one time remarry.
I am sorry your wife is that way, it is no good. You have grounds to divorce her. You cannot remarry though according to the bible lest ye become a whore too. If you being a minister then become a whore your church becometh a brothel. That is no good.
 
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You are not understanding Jesus' words. In mt. He is saying. That if a man puts away his wife for fornication the following does not apply..... if i were to say.....all kids who's plates are cleaned unless you give your food to the dog gets ice cream after dinner. Is that saying it applies to those who fed thr dog there hot dog?