Grace: A License to Sin (FALSE!)
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FINALLY! One thing you and I agree on. However "dominion" and influence and desirability aren't the same thing.
Dominion is complete control over. I can see from your pic that you are not shy at the dinner table. So, right here, we know that although you may not binge and eat three meals at a sitting, you are STILL pulled by a desire to overdo it at supper. If I were like a lot of people here, looking for "sins" to label people with, I would have to find the "gluttony" card to hand you. Yet, you say this absolutely doesn't happen in your life.
I think it is time to rethink a little.... or at least open your eyes wider.
Dominion is complete control over. I can see from your pic that you are not shy at the dinner table. So, right here, we know that although you may not binge and eat three meals at a sitting, you are STILL pulled by a desire to overdo it at supper. If I were like a lot of people here, looking for "sins" to label people with, I would have to find the "gluttony" card to hand you. Yet, you say this absolutely doesn't happen in your life.
I think it is time to rethink a little.... or at least open your eyes wider.
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That parable of the Prodigal son was not to be taken in the physical sense, it was a worldly example given by the Lord on how salvation works. The son when he walked away from the father was spiritually dead and when he came back he was spiritually alive. Showing that when we walk away from the faith/Lord we are spiritually dead and if you continue down that path it will lead to the lake of fire, but if you return to Him you are spiritually alive as you have that eternal life abiding in you again.
K
Yes and that is the written ordinances, and not the moral law of God that is written in our hearts and minds.
The Mosaic laws contained in written ordinances is the ministry of death because it shows us our sinful ways which condemns us, but the law of liberty given in commands by the Lord Jesus Christ saves us from that condemnation by showing us a better way to walk. Love to all others being that greatest command to be followed as by walking in love will uphold the rest !!!
I'm afraid not. You are trying to give the credit for the free, open acceptance of the Father to the efforts of the boy. This is not how Salvation works.
AND, if you will read the story a little more carefully, you will see that the boy was governed by his hunger, and that he really was NOT repentant. Why, he had actually REHEARSED a contrived speech that he planned to deliver which he hoped would convince his Father to hire him as a worker on the farm so that he could have a decent meal.
AND, if you will read the story a little more carefully, you will see that the boy was governed by his hunger, and that he really was NOT repentant. Why, he had actually REHEARSED a contrived speech that he planned to deliver which he hoped would convince his Father to hire him as a worker on the farm so that he could have a decent meal.
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Jason, there is some form of sin in your life that at this very moment is being covered by the love and grace of God. It is not an outward sin of the flesh or even an entertainment of thoughts that are contrary to the mind of Christ. It is far deeper then that and involves iniquity within the imaginations of the heart. These imaginations and images are strongholds embedded in the unconscious part of the mind that only God can bring out through the details of his plan. This is what (2 Cor 10:3-6) is speaking about. This is what we are to guard against by not allowing these imaginations to exalt themselves within the framework of our mind and soul over and against the knowledge of grace and truth that we have in Christ. This is where true transformation takes place and not just in abstaining from sin.
We must walk in the light as He is in the light so that light can replace the darkness within those imaginations that exist in the chamber of our imagery (Ez 8:12). When the details of God's plan reveals and brings out these imaginations, they must be cast down lest they exalt themselves and become idols that we unconsciously conform to and direct our worship through. There are many imaginations within this chamber of imagery that have a place and will lead us astray into many paths that seem right and good but are evil and exalted against the knowledge of God and their end will be death and destruction. Demas would not deal with these imaginations, forsook Paul when he was in prison and left the church because he loved the present world (2Tim 4:10). He was not transformed from the world by the renewing of his mind. There is no mention of sin being the issue, but not being renewed in his mind is what kept him with affections for the world. Peter did the same at the time of the cross when he forsook the Lord for a time and warmed himself at the fire of the enemies of the cross (John 18:18). Peter needed to be converted. He had the wrong imaginations and being perplexed he cursed and denied the Lord three times.
We must walk in the light as He is in the light so that light can replace the darkness within those imaginations that exist in the chamber of our imagery (Ez 8:12). When the details of God's plan reveals and brings out these imaginations, they must be cast down lest they exalt themselves and become idols that we unconsciously conform to and direct our worship through. There are many imaginations within this chamber of imagery that have a place and will lead us astray into many paths that seem right and good but are evil and exalted against the knowledge of God and their end will be death and destruction. Demas would not deal with these imaginations, forsook Paul when he was in prison and left the church because he loved the present world (2Tim 4:10). He was not transformed from the world by the renewing of his mind. There is no mention of sin being the issue, but not being renewed in his mind is what kept him with affections for the world. Peter did the same at the time of the cross when he forsook the Lord for a time and warmed himself at the fire of the enemies of the cross (John 18:18). Peter needed to be converted. He had the wrong imaginations and being perplexed he cursed and denied the Lord three times.
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All I can say is, if you are depending on your own efforts to keep yourself "holy", you don't need Jesus Christ. In fact, you don't truly have faith in what He did on the Cross to save you if you think it's your own works which maintains your righteousness. You're making the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ of no effect.
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You are trying to interject that just because it does not say the son repented that he didn't.
Yes this parable does have to deal with how salvation works as the bible clearly emphasizes throughout it the importance on how one walks in the faith and how it works hand and hand with the faith for salvation.
James 2:20-26 is a good passage to read to understand this, as he shows there that Abraham was not just justified by faith alone, as Abraham's obedience to follow God's command to offer up Isaac. James says by works faith is made perfect, James 2:22 !!!
This is why I try to stay out of debates about the law, because some do not know how to properly discern between the two and try to mash them all into one. You have those who believe all 613 written ordinances still apply debating with those who believe no standards for the believer apply. The bible refutes both teaching and until a person learns to discern between the written ordinance and the moral aspect it will be useless for them to debate.......
Yes this parable does have to deal with how salvation works as the bible clearly emphasizes throughout it the importance on how one walks in the faith and how it works hand and hand with the faith for salvation.
James 2:20-26 is a good passage to read to understand this, as he shows there that Abraham was not just justified by faith alone, as Abraham's obedience to follow God's command to offer up Isaac. James says by works faith is made perfect, James 2:22 !!!
This is why I try to stay out of debates about the law, because some do not know how to properly discern between the two and try to mash them all into one. You have those who believe all 613 written ordinances still apply debating with those who believe no standards for the believer apply. The bible refutes both teaching and until a person learns to discern between the written ordinance and the moral aspect it will be useless for them to debate.......
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It is not about depending on our own efforts, as it is about depending on and trusting in the Lord to follow His teachings on how we are to walk in the faith. The bible stresses the importance of ones walk in the faith and how it goes hand and hand with the faith of Christ unto salvation.
Remember faith is not about just sitting back and doing nothing, as Jesus says those who take up their cross and follow Him.
By following Him means you obey His teachings to walk in them, and the bible gives dire consequences for those who do not obey to follow and are lazy servants......
Remember faith is not about just sitting back and doing nothing, as Jesus says those who take up their cross and follow Him.
By following Him means you obey His teachings to walk in them, and the bible gives dire consequences for those who do not obey to follow and are lazy servants......
I think you may be missing SO much in this parable.
To me, it shows the love of the Father even when we "halfheartedly" move toward Him.. He does not insist upon some perfect performance to qualify us for His love.... We already HAVE that long before we even begin to think about simply being "churchy"..... which is where many of us DO reside when we first move toward Jesus.
To me, it shows the love of the Father even when we "halfheartedly" move toward Him.. He does not insist upon some perfect performance to qualify us for His love.... We already HAVE that long before we even begin to think about simply being "churchy"..... which is where many of us DO reside when we first move toward Jesus.
So you are saying you have stopped sinning those types of sins that Paul list several times in the New Testament (Whereby doing such things will cause one to not inherit the Kingdom of God)? Congratulations and praise be unto the Lord if you have done so.
As for your question: Lately, I have been really busy, so I did not have time to read and reply to everyone's post. But just to let you know typing in a different colored font in large paragraphs does make it more difficult to read (whereby I would choose to read it later if I have time). I only use color to emphasize sometimes what is being said in the Bible or to emphasize a topic title or heading.
Anyways, ask me your question.