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Where does it mention two judgments? I am aware of two resurrections, but only of the White Throne judgments. There is , of course an unspoken judgment of the 144,000. And of the White Throne judgments, even the saved are judged to determine their rewards. What did I miss?
Heb:9:27:
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment:
 
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As I stated, you love your sins, and this is why you refuse to believe God's very Word

This is a bold faced lie. You don't know me, and have very little Biblical knowledge if you don't know the difference between the White Throne judgment, and the judgment of the saints. Please do not teach the Bible you don't know, and if you don't learn respect, don't comment on my posts.
 
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As I stated, you love your sins, and this is why you refuse to believe God's very Word

This is a bold faced lie. You don't know me, and have very little Biblical knowledge if you don't know the difference between the White Throne judgment, and the judgment of the saints. Please do not teach the Bible you don't know, and if you don't learn respect, don't comment on my posts.
You are denying God's Word, obviously it is you who lacks knowledge of Scripture
 

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You've made your love for sin clear - It is God's WORD that testifies you are the child of the devil - not my judgment
have i?

i love mercy. what do you think of mercy? need any?

really man, i don't know what you're on about. but it sounds to me like you love condemning others.
 
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have i?

i love mercy. what do you think of mercy? need any?

really man, i don't know what you're on about. but it sounds to me like you love condemning others.
You condemn yourselves by remaining in your sins - God said sinners go to hell - its not my judgment
 

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My question earlier was for M33's post on page 42, second one down.
 
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The 2 judgments are one of condemnation (White Throne) and one with no condemnation (of the saints.)

Maranatha
 
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Folks - I simply present the Written Word of God - some will believe it, others will deny it.
 
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God said we all will die, then go to judgment. At this judgment Jesus will judge us either worthy of the kingdom or worthy of hell
 

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here, i think i know how to clear this up -- because sharp weapons are getting tossed around in the air here without any show of training in their use. arrows shot at a chance.
it's dangerous.

As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.
(Romans 7:17-18)​

now -- who is a sinner? that dead thing in me that was crucified with Christ when i heard the gospel and believed.
what's this zombie zombie zombie doing still in my earthly life? it's going to be burned up, doesn't it know?

What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?
Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

(Romans 7:24-25)​

ah!! Solution!!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
(Romans 7:25)

ah!! understanding!

praise God for the apostle He sent to me, a damnable Gentile seeking mercy, and for the wisdom He put in that man's mouth!
 
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Jesus told a story about certain Christians who thought they were saved

Matt7:21-23
21 ¶ Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
 

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M33, is the judgment of the saints the judgment of the 144,000?
 
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I quoted Scripture, verbatim. You deny Scriptures. Enough said...
 
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You've made your love for sin clear - It is God's WORD that testifies you are the child of the devil - not my judgment
Pardon me lol

May I offer you an after dinner mint....with your hypocrisy and self righteous foolishness :)
 
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here, i think i know how to clear this up -- because sharp weapons are getting tossed around in the air here without any show of training in their use. arrows shot at a chance.
it's dangerous.
As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.
(Romans 7:17-18)​

now -- who is a sinner? that dead thing in me that was crucified with Christ when i heard the gospel and believed.
what's this zombie zombie zombie doing still in my earthly life? it's going to be burned up, doesn't it know?
What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?
Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

(Romans 7:24-25)​

ah!! Solution!!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
(Romans 7:25)

ah!! understanding!

praise God for the apostle He sent to me, a damnable Gentile seeking mercy, and for the wisdom He put in that man's mouth!
I told you there is a transition period from sinner to non-sinner - Paul did not transform instantly. God plainly stated those who sin belong to the devil, and those who belong to God do not sin

1Jn:3:8:
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil: for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God appeared, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God committeth not sin: for his seed abideth in him. And he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

If you think Jesus is your license to live a life of sin, you only deceive yourself

Gal:2:17:
17 But if, while we seek to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ then the minister of sin? God forbid!
 

posthuman

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Jesus told a story about certain Christians who thought they were saved

Matt7:21-23
21 ¶ Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
what a good story!
about people who thought all the great works they had done in His name merited entrance into the kingdom.
i love it!
how edifying! may i never forget!

did Jesus tell any stories about people who thought they were sinless?
or people who confessed their sin and plead for mercy?
 

posthuman

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I told you there is a transition period from sinner to non-sinner - Paul did not transform instantly. God plainly stated those who sin belong to the devil, and those who belong to God do not sin
so..
your position is that Paul belonged to the Devil when he wrote the epistle to the Romans??

:confused:
 
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The judgment without condemnation will include the 144,000 as they will be believers. The White Throne, will be for all of the people who do not have Jesus' propitiation. So it is a matter of whether the judgment will be for believers, or not...

Maranatha
 
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The Bible plainly reads Jesus came to save people from their sins - those who push living a life of sin are servants of the devil.