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I appreciate that Willie, it take a great person to admit that they were wrong, that is maturity. Yes I was very hurt about what you said, i come from the society where women are treated like possession instead of individuals, we don't have much of a say to things that directly affect us as women. We are thought to keep quiet, submit and obey men. This is the only place where I could just have a voice without being being label as disrespectful. And believe me I have been called that many times for standing up for what I believe (like not allowing my kids to be introduced to their ancestors, not allowing my boys to be send to the bush for circumcision rituals) but that's another story. So apology accepted.
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I was not shaking my fist at Willie, I was just pointing out that a woman can take care of herself and does not need a man to be complete. Anyway most of the men that are giving me attention are not even Christian and most of them are married men. My husband was not Christian either, actually he was a very traditional men and I must say although I loved him for most of my adult life, we had many challenges mostly about traditional rituals that needed to be performed to the kids and to us. I thank God that He protected me from ever having those rituals performed, I would pray so hard to God not to let my kids get introduced to that stuff and at the same time I had to obey and respect my husband as the Bible teacheies. My God was faithful because i never had to do those things, something always comes up, either he wouldn't have enough money or he would just get sick when time for performing rituals come. This happened so many times and I kept telling him( my husband) that God was preventing these things and was trying to get his attention but sadly he didn't listened. So for you to say that I'm shaking at fist at Willie is a bit unfare, you have no idea how difficult it is to live in the society that values tradition and beliefs and be a Christian standing up for what you believe, being called names just because you don't worship ancestors. I get that you really don't know how hard other people from other countries have to endure to stay true to their faith, so with that said I get where you coming from.
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Hi Lihle,
I DO perceive what you are saying about this situation. The "shaking fist" was an analogy for an IDEA or VIEW. I did specify that I did not think that was your INTENTION and it was not an accusation as someone else presumed was what I meant.
I understand and am aware of the "rituals" you are referring to and I am VERY GRATEFUL, the Lord protected you and your children.
I think you are missing that the point I was trying to convey to you... is that GOD knows all the "issues" he has protected you from... and that based on the evidence of the WORD OF SCRIPTURE... it is probable and likely that God is wanting to give you a new husband... A CHRISTIAN HUSBAND... who will provide for you, protect you, be a father to your children and enable you to GLORIFY GOD together.
It seems you are focusing on the unwanted negative attentions of the wrong men, I understand it is a problem. DO you understand how I was trying to point out to you how A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN would not ever approach you because you are still wearing your mourning dress and being a good man would be respectful of that?
Do you see how increasing your "shield" against the bad men... who are ignoring the "shield" anyway... COULD actually be keeping the GOOD Christian man from ever approaching you?
I DO perceive what you are saying about this situation. The "shaking fist" was an analogy for an IDEA or VIEW. I did specify that I did not think that was your INTENTION and it was not an accusation as someone else presumed was what I meant.
I understand and am aware of the "rituals" you are referring to and I am VERY GRATEFUL, the Lord protected you and your children.
I think you are missing that the point I was trying to convey to you... is that GOD knows all the "issues" he has protected you from... and that based on the evidence of the WORD OF SCRIPTURE... it is probable and likely that God is wanting to give you a new husband... A CHRISTIAN HUSBAND... who will provide for you, protect you, be a father to your children and enable you to GLORIFY GOD together.
It seems you are focusing on the unwanted negative attentions of the wrong men, I understand it is a problem. DO you understand how I was trying to point out to you how A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN would not ever approach you because you are still wearing your mourning dress and being a good man would be respectful of that?
Do you see how increasing your "shield" against the bad men... who are ignoring the "shield" anyway... COULD actually be keeping the GOOD Christian man from ever approaching you?
V
"Someone else" did not presume you accused Sister Lihle of "shaking her fist" - everyone on this thread including Lihle could read plainly that it was YOUR opinion that she was shaking her fist. There was no presuming about it. Those were your exact words.
And as for your pressuring Lihle about moving on to find her next husband, did you not read her request that you would please refrain from doing so? How can you be so presumptuous and tell her it's "evidence of the Word of Scripture" that she follow your advice to get a new husband? Why are you justifying pressuring her to remarry? Shouldn't you humble yourself and apologize for equating her standing alone in the faith of Jesus Christ as "shaking her fist"? And for again trying to persuade her to live according to your judgment and not by her own walk in the Lord?
And as for your pressuring Lihle about moving on to find her next husband, did you not read her request that you would please refrain from doing so? How can you be so presumptuous and tell her it's "evidence of the Word of Scripture" that she follow your advice to get a new husband? Why are you justifying pressuring her to remarry? Shouldn't you humble yourself and apologize for equating her standing alone in the faith of Jesus Christ as "shaking her fist"? And for again trying to persuade her to live according to your judgment and not by her own walk in the Lord?
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Violet.... I am no longer willing to give you the generous benefit of doubt, in thinking that it is possible that you have a reading comprehension problem.... NO, you have HABITUALLY critiqued my posts ascribing MOTIVES and INTENTIONS which you have presumptively fabricated for YOUR own accusations to vilify me PERSONALLY.
YOU continue to insert yourself and interject YOUR fallacious renditions of the MEANINGS of my comments which are specifically NOT addressed to you. IF we were all in a ROOM... your habit of SPEAKING OVER ME with grandiose manipulative criticisms would be considered by many people to be beyond RUDENESS.
I have not asked for your services as my personal editor, translator or communication interventionist.... YOU ARE NOT GOD, and only he can interpret the thoughts and intentions of the heart. You are in NO WAY acting as a peacemaker by facilitating better more concise communication... rather conversely intentionally creating DIVISION with your fictitious and maligning summarizations. I am expressly telling you to STOP IT.
You will stop commenting to my comments in any way with implies, infers, alludes to my MOTIVES OR INTENTIONS.
You will cease and desist addressing me AT ALL unless you want to get used to me posting this same message over and over because you REFUSE TO RESPECT my equal right to freedom of expressions, opinion, use of and participation in the forums.
You do not have to like or agree with anything I say... But you will STOP conducting yourself as my personal censor.
Employ the ignore button if you lack the discipline to control yourself... that is one of the reasons the ignore button is provided! Which ever method you choose to "help" yourself comply and RESPECT MY REQUEST.... you are encouraged to begin NOW... without any further discourse. THANK YOU!
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Are you aware this is Lihle's post? And, more important, are you noticing what Lihle is liking in this?
The PM system works on this site. I know. I've used it.
Also the ignore button is a personal choice. If someone gets your goat, use it. Don't tell the goat-getter to use it.
Don't make me stop this car.... whoops. Sorry. Mom's voice echoed in my brain for a moment there.
The PM system works on this site. I know. I've used it.
Also the ignore button is a personal choice. If someone gets your goat, use it. Don't tell the goat-getter to use it.
Don't make me stop this car.... whoops. Sorry. Mom's voice echoed in my brain for a moment there.
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Anyway, I actually came back to remind a 50 year-old mother something she already knows.
Lihle, it's scriptural that you take however much time you need to take to do what you need to do -- just as long as you remember time changes.
Ecclesiastes 3
1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.
Lihle, it's scriptural that you take however much time you need to take to do what you need to do -- just as long as you remember time changes.
Ecclesiastes 3
1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.
You certainly don't seem to be a pushover on this thread.
You display a strong, forthright personality. I can't see why those men don't respect what you want. Why do you think these men persist in chasing after you?
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I think the purpose on this site is to encourage ,and support each other, not to tear each other apart. BarlyGirl I appreciate your input but you don't know where I'm coming from, admitting that you were wrong won't take anything away. Even Willie, that you were speaking for apologised. And to Violet and Atwhatcost thank you for encouragement. We are all of same family, the family of God.