Change Your Gun Laws, America

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Mitspa

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This is the facts...The NRA is one of the most powerful political forces in our nation.. the liberals will soon be completely out of power because folks are sick of their nonsense....the gun laws will not be changed for some years .. that's the facts :)

those of you who don't like it? too bad ..we are keeping our guns and will be buying more :)
 
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This is the facts...The NRA is one of the most powerful political forces in our nation.. the liberals will soon be completely out of power because folks are sick of their nonsense....the gun laws will not be changed for some years .. that's the facts :)

those of you who don't like it? too bad ..we are keeping our guns and will be buying more :)
Is it because the NRA has a fistful of bribes that they cannot do that which is right?
 
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Mitspa

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Is it because the NRA has a fistful of bribes that they cannot do that which is right?
Right? by whose standards? some left-wing nonsense? Or by Gods standards and the laws or our nation...

Our constitution that many of us has sworn to defend against all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC.... the left wingers have won some battles..like approving and promoting sexual deviants and killing babies...but they cant win this one.
 
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KennethC

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Wow, Kenneth! I am going to bookmark this site. Then, when I want to quote something that has totally twisted not just the statistics but the facts, compared apples to koala bears, and dumped a lot of wishful thinking in, I will have a good example to show people.

Here is the real truth: (in deaths by guns per 100,000 population)

Canada: 2.2
Japan: .06
UK: .26
Aus. .86
Germ 1.24
France 3.01
USA: 10.64

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

So who has the most deaths due to guns in 1st world countries? I leave you to figure it out. The math is right there.

Another interesting fact it brought up was this:

"Fact: The crime rate is 66% higher in four Canadian Prairie Provinces than in the northern US states across the border."Hmm, I have lived in Canada most of my life, and I would swear there are only THREE Canadian Prairie provinces. Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. In fact, I have lived in Alberta half my life, and this is what I was taught in school.

But moving on from that obvious error, yes, there is a high rate of gun violence in the prairie provinces, especially in Manitoba, and also in the NWT and Nunavut. At the risk of being racist, the fact is that most of that violence is in the aboriginal population. But considering how our native populations have been treated, esp. in the prairies provinces, that is the logical result.
Did you even read or look at that site, because it gave charts of the crime rates in those other countries and how stricter gun laws did not deter or lower the crime rate. Some kept the same and others increased
 
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Mitspa

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We could make all kinds of laws to restrict crime...not allow people to go to bars..or be out late etc...but our laws are always balanced with out constitutional rights.
 
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KennethC

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Did you even read or look at that site, because it gave charts of the crime rates in those other countries and how stricter gun laws did not deter or lower the crime rate. Some kept the same and others increased
Also I would add that yes there was a misspeaking of four instead of three prairie provinces, but still that does not change the fact of the charts that showed the crime rates in those areas.
 
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Right? by whose standards? some left-wing nonsense? Or by Gods standards and the laws or our nation...

Our constitution that many of us has sworn to defend against all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC.... the left wingers have won some battles..like approving and promoting sexual deviants and killing babies...but they cant win this one.
I have not taken any such oath to defend that worthless piece of paper which defends the worship of idols and demons. But any that have bound themselves to it, let them be bound.

Again the Constitution ain't my law. The Constitution is the law of the government. The whole point of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is to detail the set up of the government and the restrictions and freedoms granted to the government. For example, the government may not make a law to burn the Koran, but you can go out and burn as many of them as you can afford.

So we'll use the Bible's standard and I ask again;

Is it because the NRA has a fistful of bribes that they cannot do that which is right?
 
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Mitspa

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I have not taken any such oath to defend that worthless piece of paper which defends the worship of idols and demons. But any that have bound themselves to it, let them be bound.

Again the Constitution ain't my law. The Constitution is the law of the government. The whole point of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is to detail the set up of the government and the restrictions and freedoms granted to the government. For example, the government may not make a law to burn the Koran, but you can go out and burn as many of them as you can afford.

So we'll use the Bible's standard and I ask again;

Is it because the NRA has a fistful of bribes that they cannot do that which is right?
worthless piece of paper? you think real Americans will listen to a person with your attitude? No friend and whether you can see it or not or want to believe it...Gods Hand was there when this piece of paper and this form of government was established. Lawlessness, God hates ...and those who reject the constitution are enemies of God in my view.
 
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worthless piece of paper? you think real Americans will listen to a person with your attitude? No friend and whether you can see it or not or want to believe it...Gods Hand was there when this piece of paper and this form of government was established. Lawlessness, God hates ...and those who reject the constitution are enemies of God in my view.
Don't confuse not being bound to the law of the US government, which is deeply anti-Christian as evidenced by the first amendment, as lawlessness.
 
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Mitspa

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Don't confuse not being bound to the law of the US government, which is deeply anti-Christian as evidenced by the first amendment, as lawlessness.
Nonsense! maybe you have been watching too many conspiracy videos ?
 
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KennethC

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worthless piece of paper? you think real Americans will listen to a person with your attitude? No friend and whether you can see it or not or want to believe it...Gods Hand was there when this piece of paper and this form of government was established. Lawlessness, God hates ...and those who reject the constitution are enemies of God in my view.
Don't confuse not being bound to the law of the US government, which is deeply anti-Christian as evidenced by the first amendment, as lawlessness.



The Word of God shows that we are to obey the laws given by our governing authorities as if the are given by Him, unless they contradict His was.

Lord Jesus showed also in the gospels that we are not to force our beliefs on others, and vise versa they should not be able to force theirs on us. Therefore the laws of the U.S. must encompass all who live here and not just a select group.

We may not agree with some of the laws or support them and can speak up for how we feel, but at the same time making all laws in the U.S. based on Christian principles would be forcing our ways on others who do not see the same way as us.

Stricter gun laws would not be a good move for America as the revolting against the government would be at a height we have never seen before. Most likely all it would do is send this country into another internal war and martial law !!!
 
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shotgunner

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It's a foolish and simplistic mindset that thinks tougher gun laws reduce violence.
 
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shotgunner

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I know what we should do. Let's just make harmful and addictive drugs illegal and solve our drug problem.
 
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Nonsense! maybe you have been watching too many conspiracy videos ?
Nay, read the Constitution and Bill of Rights for yourself.
Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Bill of Rights Transcript Text

First Commandment in Bible is Love God. Supported by many passages detailing how God abhors the abominations of nations and their demonic religions.

First Amendment in the Bill of Rights is the government cannot restrict the worship of idols and demons. Not really surprising considering what the founders of America were into, and it is no conspiracy for it is no secret. It is no theory for it is recorded and largely admitted to, even bragged about to their own shame.

Nevertheless there is a law of America with which I am forced by the Bible to be bound to, but it is not the Constitution, but rather the obligations of citizenship which imply that I, and any citizen, is the king of America and that I have to influence America by any means necessary. Fairly simple law to follow, look you and me are following it now.
 

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I'm simply confused why people need more than two guns...I mean you only have two hands, even fully armed the rest of your guns would be just sitting around. I guess you could go all Rambo and strap other guns to various body parts, but eventually I think there is a number where you simply own too many. Not that I care, it just seems wasteful to have them for decoration.
 
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I know what we should do. Let's just make harmful and addictive drugs illegal and solve our drug problem.
Lol makes more sense then letting any 18 year old go out and get them at Walmart. Now let's apply that rational to guns.
 
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Mitspa

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Nay, read the Constitution and Bill of Rights for yourself.
Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Bill of Rights Transcript Text

First Commandment in Bible is Love God. Supported by many passages detailing how God abhors the abominations of nations and their demonic religions.

First Amendment in the Bill of Rights is the government cannot restrict the worship of idols and demons. Not really surprising considering what the founders of America were into, and it is no conspiracy for it is no secret. It is no theory for it is recorded and largely admitted to, even bragged about to their own shame.

Nevertheless there is a law of America with which I am forced by the Bible to be bound to, but it is not the Constitution, but rather the obligations of citizenship which imply that I, and any citizen, is the king of America and that I have to influence America by any means necessary. Fairly simple law to follow, look you and me are following it now.
Read it and sounds like perfect document to promote the Christian faith according to each mans conscience ...in liberty
 
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Mitspa

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#78
I'm simply confused why people need more than two guns...I mean you only have two hands, even fully armed the rest of your guns would be just sitting around. I guess you could go all Rambo and strap other guns to various body parts, but eventually I think there is a number where you simply own too many. Not that I care, it just seems wasteful to have them for decoration.
Whats it to anyone if I have as many guns as I want? or if I have as many cars as I want ...folks should mind their own business and let others live the liberty God has giving to us in this nation.
 
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shotgunner

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#79
I'm simply confused why people need more than two guns...I mean you only have two hands, even fully armed the rest of your guns would be just sitting around. I guess you could go all Rambo and strap other guns to various body parts, but eventually I think there is a number where you simply own too many. Not that I care, it just seems wasteful to have them for decoration.
Why would anyone need more than one pair of shoes?
 
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The Word of God shows that we are to obey the laws given by our governing authorities as if the are given by Him, unless they contradict His was.

Lord Jesus showed also in the gospels that we are not to force our beliefs on others, and vise versa they should not be able to force theirs on us. Therefore the laws of the U.S. must encompass all who live here and not just a select group.

We may not agree with some of the laws or support them and can speak up for how we feel, but at the same time making all laws in the U.S. based on Christian principles would be forcing our ways on others who do not see the same way as us.

Stricter gun laws would not be a good move for America as the revolting against the government would be at a height we have never seen before. Most likely all it would do is send this country into another internal war and martial law !!!
On the first part, yes we have to follow the law of the land so long as it does not force us to transgress the law of God. The US Constitution is written in such a way that it is only the law of the government, it is not the law of the citizen or the freeman. The law of the land is the obligations of citizenship which is actually fairly easy to adhere to for the time being.

Gun control policies would be good for the people because the violence is all ready increasing so much that martial law or anarchy is unavoidable if it continues at this rate. Again to be clear, gun control policy does not mean disarming.