Doctrinal doo doo?

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eternally-gratefull

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Hmmmm, aren't you the anybody involved in Homosexuality are all gonna burn in Hell guy?
lol. Funny, He left the catholic church to be a semi catholic..
 
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KennethC

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Hmmmm, aren't you the anybody involved in Homosexuality are all gonna burn in Hell guy?
If they don't repent of those ways and turn from committing those sinful acts then the Word of God is clear on this, that they are in condemnation.

Nowhere does the bible give a person the right to continue in any sinful ways, not just homosexual, and stumbling or struggling does not give that right either.
 
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FreeNChrist

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If they don't repent of those ways and turn from committing those sinful acts then the Word of God is clear on this, that they are in condemnation.

Nowhere does the bible give a person the right to continue in any sinful ways, not just homosexual, and stumbling or struggling does not give that right either.
Pot, meet Kettle.
 
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KennethC

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Sigh, I'm simply saying that Churches are subject to criticism because they are made up of sinners saved by grace.
Look at the Corinthian Church...a mess, and yet Paul even though he handed them some constructive criticism worked with them like a mother to a child. But this continual degrading of the churches with no suggestions for improvement is getting old. I suggested to Yet to start a Church, maybe he can help that way.
You jump in with the usual destracting arguments. .no thanks.
Well Apostle Paul also warned the Corinthian church that they could not continue to operate that way, and even told that church that if there is a member engaged in sinful (sexual immoral) behavior if they refuse to give up those ways after admonishing them. They are to be cast out !!!

He did not sugar coat it or just slap them on the hand, not he gave them a strict warning in 1 Corinthians 5 about allowing sinful behavior to continue in members of the congregation.
 
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KennethC

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Don't think so because I admit my sins to the Lord and confess them for forgiveness when I stumble, so your whole analogy does not fit for me !!!
 

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Well Apostle Paul also warned the Corinthian church that they could not continue to operate that way, and even told that church that if there is a member engaged in sinful (sexual immoral) behavior if they refuse to give up those ways after admonishing them. They are to be cast out !!!

He did not sugar coat it or just slap them on the hand, not he gave them a strict warning in 1 Corinthians 5 about allowing sinful behavior to continue in members of the congregation.
yes yes, Paul gave constructive solutions rather than only a constant drip drip drip " the church ain't this, the pastors aren't that".
 
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FreeNChrist

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Don't think so because I admit my sins to the Lord and confess them for forgiveness when I stumble, so your whole analogy does not fit for me !!!
Oh brother, sigh*
 
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KennethC

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yes yes, Paul gave constructive solutions rather than only a constant drip drip drip " the church ain't this, the pastors aren't that".
I don't either as I always follow up the rebuking and reproving with exhortation from the word of God.

I am involved in the Catholic threads in helping those brothers and sisters in that church see the truth in God's word, and if you know anybody in the Westboro church send them my way. I would be happy to share the truth in His word with them to bring them to the truth and out of a hate doctrine.

This goes with anybody else in doctrines that are questionable, because the Word of God says we are to keep with sound doctrine and any deviation from that is teaching another Jesus and another gospel !!!
 
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FreeNChrist

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I don't either as I always follow up the rebuking and reproving with exhortation from the word of God.

I am involved in the Catholic threads in helping those brothers and sisters in that church see the truth in God's word, and if you know anybody in the Westboro church send them my way. I would be happy to share the truth in His word with them to bring them to the truth and out of a hate doctrine.

This goes with anybody else in doctrines that are questionable, because the Word of God says we are to keep with sound doctrine and any deviation from that is teaching another Jesus and another gospel !!!
Keep walking towards that cliff and the fall will surely come.
 
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KennethC

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Keep walking towards that cliff and the fall will surely come.
Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

1 Timothy 6:3-5
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 John 1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

(Read also Matthew 18:15-17 and 1 Corinthians 5 about dealing with sinning members in the congregation)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Keep walking towards that cliff and the fall will surely come.
Sadly he has not even started up the cliff yet, He is in a dream world where he thinks he is walking up, walking toward that prize of eternal life.
 
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Sadly he has not even started up the cliff yet, He is in a dream world where he thinks he is walking up, walking toward that prize of eternal life.
Amen to that and still using examples that do not equate to the loss of eternal salvation...blindly I might add!
 

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and my point is Yet has started many many posts attacking the Churches...so it's predictable and yes all churches are imperfect made up of saved sinners.
Hey Cross, why do you not the truth. I have never attacked the ekklesia once. No where. So don't continue to accuse me of something I have never done.
I attack false doctrine as in doctrines of demons and men, the traditions of men, hirelings, wolves, false prophets, false teachers, heresies and apostasy that the word of God said their would be an abundance of in the last days!
I have a grave and serious concern for what you falsely call 'church'. What goes on on Sunday morning in the average building called 'church' is not the assembly of saints the bible envisions.

This blindness on the part of many has to be demonic in nature. I quote scripture and get accused of hate. I'm, by no means, of the stature of Paul but he would teach truth also and all the assemblies in Asia forsook him. Was Paul a hater of the body of Christ or was he a hater of the Devils inroads into the body? That seems to be something that is next to impossible to grasp by many Christians.
 

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Hey Cross, why do you not the truth. I have never attacked the ekklesia once. No where. So don't continue to accuse me of something I have never done.
I attack false doctrine as in doctrines of demons and men, the traditions of men, hirelings, wolves, false prophets, false teachers, heresies and apostasy that the word of God said their would be an abundance of in the last days!
I have a grave and serious concern for what you falsely call 'church'. What goes on on Sunday morning in the average building called 'church' is not the assembly of saints the bible envisions.

This blindness on the part of many has to be demonic in nature. I quote scripture and get accused of hate. I'm, by no means, of the stature of Paul but he would teach truth also and all the assemblies in Asia forsook him. Was Paul a hater of the body of Christ or was he a hater of the Devils inroads into the body? That seems to be something that is next to impossible to grasp by many Christians.

You know what? I'll let your words stand as they are and they speak for themselves and thank you for making my point.
 
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weakness

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Yes but we can not neglect how both Jesus and Paul both show that walking in love will uphold the other teachings and commands from Christ. Not void them out or neglect them !!![/QUOTE/Because the spirit is in our hearts we are a law unto ourselves. the living water. Again ,so much talk because we don't walk the walk. I we were letting Christ lead 25 souls a day to him through us ,most of this arguing would be rejoicing instead. This really could be compared with burying the talent​ Just how many people have you lead to Jesus this month? I suppose this will be fought over too.What's the Spirit doing in your life?
 
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weakness

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This is how blind they are

Hebrews tells us NO ONE WAS SAVED by OT LAW.

So they want us to believe we are saved by NT LAW..

I guess the OT believer was saved by grace alone with no works? and we have to work??
[/QUOTE/We were saved by the whole counsel of God. which includes both old and new testaments. I am getting tired of these stupid statements.
 
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good evening to everyone,

i just want to ask if it is the sin who entered in this world that made humans to suffer from the curse, then what exactly is this ``SIN`` that we are talking about ?

another one is
how come that a mighty angel of the lord god
corrupted by the sin and become the devil or satan?

if something as powerful as that can be corrupted by the so called SIN,
then who made this sin and where it came from?
 
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Why are some so against refusing that false teaching is at a all time high in the churches now days, which is why we are told to clearly test the spirits ???

Instead of admitting the truth I see my fellow brothers and sisters in the faith just trying to play it off by saying things like, nobody is perfect.

We may not see eye to eye but Yet does have a point as I have seen it my self the bad teachings now days of teaching a twist of scripture, half of what is said, and changing the order around of when things are done in the faith. The other thing I have seen is people taking grace, faith, and salvation as all being the same thing. They are not the same thing as one leads to or puts us under the other !!!

The bible does show in the end times true faith in people will be less and less, as it shows many people will not endure sound doctrine. But when you bring that up many claim keeping sound doctrine has nothing to do with salvation through the Lord, that right there is already a lie if you have been taught that !!!
We can sure tell whose fishin' on the right side these days. "And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes." John 21:6