Jesus 3 days and three nights.
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Not likely, because this matter is about the time of our Lord Jesus' death on the cross and resurrection, not just another period of His Ministry when He was preaching The Gospel and quoting OT prophecy. Apostle Paul wouldn't say in 1 Cor.5:7 "Christ our passover sacrificed for us" unless Jesus actually became the replacement Passover Sacrifice according to God's times and seasons.
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Hi marc
I am glad to be convinced you are right. I am always grateful to be shown how scripture is proven to be true in arreas such as this. Thank you. I remembered playing bible trivia once and the answer to when Jesus was born was four or five bc(could easily have been a year earlier). This would endorse your explanation in my opinion
But I think it maybe easier for me to accept than it may be for some others, as I don't cast in stone many of the dogmas that have cone along since the NT was written.
Thank you for explaining the verse in Matthew to my grateful satisfaction
I am glad to be convinced you are right. I am always grateful to be shown how scripture is proven to be true in arreas such as this. Thank you. I remembered playing bible trivia once and the answer to when Jesus was born was four or five bc(could easily have been a year earlier). This would endorse your explanation in my opinion
But I think it maybe easier for me to accept than it may be for some others, as I don't cast in stone many of the dogmas that have cone along since the NT was written.
Thank you for explaining the verse in Matthew to my grateful satisfaction
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What you're not recognizing is that the "high day" of John 19:31 means only one certain day of the passover ritual, and that is the 15th of Nisan which was to be a high sabbath, a "holy convocation" per Lev.23. Thus it is a SPECIFIC reference that eliminates all guesswork. The context of John 19:31 was that the "high day" was preparing to began at sunset, so they rushed to get His body off the cross and buried before that "high day" began at sunset.
Just curious:
How do you accuse me of not realizing what has consistently been a major part of my own argument?
Do you read my posts? Or Dou have your reply ready before I respond to you and post without considering my posts?
I try to respond directly to your arguments. I would appreciate the same courtesy. But it doesn't really matter; because, what is true will still be true, whether or not you accept it!
Wednesday <---- Buried just before sunset, tomb sealed marks clock[in the earth]
[between] dusk and dark
Thursday <---- First day of Unleavened Bread, an evening and morning
Friday <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, an evening and morning
Saturday <---- Resurrection just after Sabbath ended, an evening and morning
[between] dusk and dark he arrose,
exactually [between] the days, makes 3 days 3 nights, if Gods word is to stand.
This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)
[between] dusk and dark
Thursday <---- First day of Unleavened Bread, an evening and morning
Friday <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, an evening and morning
Saturday <---- Resurrection just after Sabbath ended, an evening and morning
[between] dusk and dark he arrose,
exactually [between] the days, makes 3 days 3 nights, if Gods word is to stand.
This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)
wow - So Jesus was born 4 or 5 years Before Christ!
Not to sidetrack the thread but I've occasionally have wondered what they did with the years of Christ's lifespan and if that would have to be wedged between BC and AD somehow.
Thus in human chronology Christ years are 5 BC to 27 AD if i read this correctly. Again not to derail the thread - but how was this arrived at?
Thankyou,
Longtrekker
Not to sidetrack the thread but I've occasionally have wondered what they did with the years of Christ's lifespan and if that would have to be wedged between BC and AD somehow.
Thus in human chronology Christ years are 5 BC to 27 AD if i read this correctly. Again not to derail the thread - but how was this arrived at?
Thankyou,
Longtrekker
Twilight is the illumination of the Earth's lower atmosphere when the Sun itself is not directly visible because it is below the horizon. Twilight is produced by sunlight scattering in the upper atmosphere, illuminating the lower atmosphere so that
the surface of the Earth is neither completely lit nor completely dark.
The word "twilight" is also used to denote the periods of time when this illumination occurs.[SUP][1]
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the surface of the Earth is neither completely lit nor completely dark.
The word "twilight" is also used to denote the periods of time when this illumination occurs.[SUP][1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight[/SUP]
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Re: The crucifixion of Jesus and His resurection[/h]
In searching for what day of the week Abib 14 fell on in 28 A.D. I ran across this article which, IMO, reliably fixes the date of Jesus crucifixion at Wednesday Abib14 28 A.D.
http://www.biblicaltheology.com/Rese...msundarP01.pdf
Since I have long been persuaded that 28 A.D. is the correct year. I must now rethink my belief in a Thursday crucifixion.
I have up till now rejected a Wednesday crucifixion; because I could not see how Jesus could rise on the 3rd day and rise on Sunday.
I must now try to reconcile those requirements.
Originally Posted by MarcR
I believe that Luke 2:2 places the census decree in 6 B.C. and Jesus' birth in 5 B.C.; thus putting His death on the cross in 28 A.D. Going back 483 years brings to 455 B.C., which was the eleventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus. This is consistent with Ezra Chapter 7. Ezra 7:18 does not specifically mention a command to build the wall; but does not preclude it. We know that when Nehemiah joined the work in the 20th year of Artaxerxes Longimanus (Neh 2:1), that the building of the wall was in progress already.
So then, seventy weeks are decreed Dan 9:24. The command to build the wall was given in 455 B.C. Jesus was born in 5B.C. Jesus was born in 5B.C., and was crucified ('cut off') in 28 A.D. (Dan 9:25)
The Seventieth week is reserved for 'Jacob's Trouble' (Jer 30:7) the Great tribulation (Rv 2:22, Rv 7:14).
Originally Posted by MarcR
TIBERIUS
3. Reign: In 13 A.D. (or according to Mommsen 11 A.D.) Tiberius was by a special law raised to the co-regency. Augustus died August 19, 14 A.D., and Tiberius succeeded. A mutiny in the Rhine legions was suppressed by Germanicus. The principal events of his reign (see also below) were the campaigns of Germanicus and Drusus, the withdrawal of the Romans to the Rhine, the settlement of the Armenian question, the rise and fall of Sejanus, the submission of Parthia. In 26 A.D., Tiberius retired to Capreae, where rumor attributed to him every excess of debauchery. On March 16, 37 A.D., Tiberius died at Misenum and was succeeded by Caius.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
Assuming Mommson is correct (A reasonable assumption since he was a leading archeologist of his time) 11A.D. +15= 26 A.D. 26+2.5 =29.5.
We now have a disparity of +/- 7 mos. This can be explained by differences in how years werte reconed to begin by different Rabbinic sects.
Some Rabbinic sects reckon with years beginning on Abib1; and counting any part of a year as a year. Other Rabbinic sects reckon the king's reign to begin on Adar 29, and only count entire years.
This could mean that what is called in Luke the 15th year of Tiberius could be the 14th year of Tiberius by Daniel's reckoning of time.
I believe that I have resolved all difficulties! In the year 27 A.D. Passover (Abib 14) fell on a Thursday.
Since Mary was already pregnant when the Census was decreed; Jesus could have been born as early as Sukkot, 6 B.C. His ministry started at age 30 (24-25 A.D) Which would put the command to build the wall in Jerusalem at 456 B.C. still meeting all necessary conditions to satisfy Ezra chapter 7.
If Jesus' ministry began before Passover in 25 A.D.; then Passover 27 A. D would be the third of His ministry.
If Tiberius' coregency began in the fall of 11 A.D (Julian); then the Hebrew Calendar year which subtended 26-27 A.D. would have been His 15th; thus satisfying Luke 3.
http://www.biblicaltheology.com/Rese...msundarP01.pdf
Since I have long been persuaded that 28 A.D. is the correct year. I must now rethink my belief in a Thursday crucifixion.
I have up till now rejected a Wednesday crucifixion; because I could not see how Jesus could rise on the 3rd day and rise on Sunday.
I must now try to reconcile those requirements.
I believe that Luke 2:2 places the census decree in 6 B.C. and Jesus' birth in 5 B.C.; thus putting His death on the cross in 28 A.D. Going back 483 years brings to 455 B.C., which was the eleventh year of Artaxerxes Longimanus. This is consistent with Ezra Chapter 7. Ezra 7:18 does not specifically mention a command to build the wall; but does not preclude it. We know that when Nehemiah joined the work in the 20th year of Artaxerxes Longimanus (Neh 2:1), that the building of the wall was in progress already.
So then, seventy weeks are decreed Dan 9:24. The command to build the wall was given in 455 B.C. Jesus was born in 5B.C. Jesus was born in 5B.C., and was crucified ('cut off') in 28 A.D. (Dan 9:25)
The Seventieth week is reserved for 'Jacob's Trouble' (Jer 30:7) the Great tribulation (Rv 2:22, Rv 7:14).
TIBERIUS
3. Reign: In 13 A.D. (or according to Mommsen 11 A.D.) Tiberius was by a special law raised to the co-regency. Augustus died August 19, 14 A.D., and Tiberius succeeded. A mutiny in the Rhine legions was suppressed by Germanicus. The principal events of his reign (see also below) were the campaigns of Germanicus and Drusus, the withdrawal of the Romans to the Rhine, the settlement of the Armenian question, the rise and fall of Sejanus, the submission of Parthia. In 26 A.D., Tiberius retired to Capreae, where rumor attributed to him every excess of debauchery. On March 16, 37 A.D., Tiberius died at Misenum and was succeeded by Caius.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
Assuming Mommson is correct (A reasonable assumption since he was a leading archeologist of his time) 11A.D. +15= 26 A.D. 26+2.5 =29.5.
We now have a disparity of +/- 7 mos. This can be explained by differences in how years werte reconed to begin by different Rabbinic sects.
Some Rabbinic sects reckon with years beginning on Abib1; and counting any part of a year as a year. Other Rabbinic sects reckon the king's reign to begin on Adar 29, and only count entire years.
This could mean that what is called in Luke the 15th year of Tiberius could be the 14th year of Tiberius by Daniel's reckoning of time.
I believe that I have resolved all difficulties! In the year 27 A.D. Passover (Abib 14) fell on a Thursday.
Since Mary was already pregnant when the Census was decreed; Jesus could have been born as early as Sukkot, 6 B.C. His ministry started at age 30 (24-25 A.D) Which would put the command to build the wall in Jerusalem at 456 B.C. still meeting all necessary conditions to satisfy Ezra chapter 7.
If Jesus' ministry began before Passover in 25 A.D.; then Passover 27 A. D would be the third of His ministry.
If Tiberius' coregency began in the fall of 11 A.D (Julian); then the Hebrew Calendar year which subtended 26-27 A.D. would have been His 15th; thus satisfying Luke 3.
Last edited by MarcR; July 27th, 2015 at 02:44 PM.