House Dems STRIKE To Implement First Sharia Law!

[Sirk]

I think protesting police brutality racial demonstrations are two entirely different things. I believe we should be entitled to criticize the police as long as we are not being violent or threatening. being angry about police brutality and picking on people just because they are a different race than you are two entirely different things

How is it different when they only serve to create more disconnection and mistrust. The "race" issue is a distraction from the deeper one. Instead of going out burning pharmacies down and tipping over cop cars the black lives matter would better serve their cause to go help someone else. The movement is nothing more than a collective temper tantrum.

 

[posthuman]

H. Res. 569 is not a law, it is a 'resolution' which is simply a declaratory statement of the cosigner's stance on an issue.

it is absolutely not implementation of any kind of sharia law but a reaffirmation of the cosigner's agreement with the first amendment and with existing laws condemning singling out religious groups as targets of violence. it is nothing more than political posturing. it's not legislation​.

you my friend, thinking this is a law at all, or much less, the implementation of sharia law, are the victim of conservative political propaganda, designed to mislead you and incite you to anger and mistrust.

here's the pertinent part of the text of the resolution. let me know which part you disagree with or think is contrary to the constitution and existing anti-hate-crime laws.

• Whereas the rise of hateful and anti-Muslim speech, violence, and cultural ignorance plays into the false narrative spread by terrorist groups of Western hatred of Islam, and can encourage certain individuals to react in extreme and violent ways
• Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives —
  
  

(1) expresses its condolences for the victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes;
(2) steadfastly confirms its dedication to the rights and dignity of all its citizens of all faiths, beliefs, and cultures;
(3) denounces in the strongest terms the increase of hate speech, intimidation, violence, vandalism, arson, and other hate crimes targeted against mosques, Muslims, or those perceived to be Muslim;
(4) recognizes that the United States Muslim community has made countless positive contributions to United States society;
(5) declares that the civil rights and civil liberties of all United States citizens, including Muslims in the United States, should be protected and preserved;
(6) urges local and Federal law enforcement authorities to work to prevent hate crimes; and to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrators of hate crimes; and
(7) reaffirms the inalienable right of every citizen to live without fear and intimidation, and to practice their freedom of faith.

full text of the house resolution is found here

 

[Utah]

you my friend, thinking this is a law at all, or much less, the implementation of sharia law, are the victim of conservative political propaganda, designed to mislead you and incite you to anger and mistrust.

I don't need conservative political propaganda to kindle my anger towards islam; seeing the trail of blood and body parts in the name of that demonic diarrhea kindles my anger just fine.

 

[Dude653]

How is it different when they only serve to create more disconnection and mistrust. The "race" issue is a distraction from the deeper one. Instead of going out burning pharmacies down and tipping over cop cars the black lives matter would better serve their cause to go help someone else. The movement is nothing more than a collective temper tantrum.

I see the purpose behind the movement,I just disagree with how they are going about it

 

[PennEd]

When I think about what the Democrat party stands for, baby murder, homosexual marriage and the persecution of those that disagree with that mandate, socialism in all it's evil incantations, racial division, (needed to keep their power), completely open borders, the destruction of the 1st, 2nd and other amendments, the dumbing down and indoctrination of school kids etc... I get so ridiculously angry I can't think straight.
This is why I can't get too involved in politics. I believe the Lord is telling me to love everyone, and that includes those who are ignorant enough to support these people. And I do love them. We need to focus on Jesus and spreading His Gospel. That is truly the ONLY vital mission we must do.

Peace, Love, and Grace to you all

 

[KennethC]

Why is this even being debated in a Christian site with fellow brothers and sisters debating against one another.

This shows we are putting our political agenda's ahead of what God has laid out for us to act............

No Christian is to live in hatred toward any other individuals, as hate speech is not the way of God.

Apostle John gives a clear warning that if we live in hatred toward others then the Truth/eternal life does not abide in us.

Question yourself do you still have hate or have you learned to let hatred go ???

 

[Sirk]

I see the purpose behind the movement,I just disagree with how they are going about it

I do too. I understand it. People feel cast aside and unimportant. They feel like they are thought of as less than human. What I am ssaying is that by acting the way they are acting in many cases is that they have internalized false truths about themselves. If they are caring kind tolerant human beings then they would better serve themselves if their actions reflected that instead.

 

[Utah]

Why is this even being debated in a Christian site with fellow brothers and sisters debating against one another?

Because Christianity is under attack in America and beyond. islam and socialist democrats are the main conspirators and I deem them enemies to the fullest extent. Responsible citizens discuss the issues and make necessary preparations.

 

[prove-all]

Because Christianity is under attack in America and beyond. islam and socialist democrats are the main conspirators and I deem them enemies to the fullest extent. Responsible citizens discuss the issues and make necessary preparations.

yes I agree, but me, I will in a nonviolet way, and not be triger happy or hate or kill by sword.


but this is just one of hundreds of ways this country is going to explode and crumble from within,
then the real enemy, will have no problem to come in and destroy us, and drag away captives.



then it would be to late to talk about it,
or we can go talk about other news here, like Bill Cosby being charged

 

[Utah]

yes I agree, but me, I will in a nonviolet way, and not be triger happy or hate or kill by sword.


but this is just one of hundreds of ways this country is going to explode and crumble from within,
then the real enemy, will have no problem to come in and destroy us, and drag away captives.



then it would be to late to talk about it,
or we can go talk about other news here, like Bill Cosby being charged

I understand hatred because I have been down that road before, and I pray God will keep my eyes, heart and soul focused on Him, thus allowing love to reign supreme within me, yet I will not lay down and willfully succumb to our enemies. I'm not implying you will in the least, I'm just saying.

You're where I want to be spiritually and emotionally but for one thing, I will indeed kill if necessary. I absolutely never want to have to take someone's life, and I have prayed throughout my life that God will protect me from ever being put in such a situation, but I will if need be because we have the God-given right to defend ourselves, and more importantly, we have the responsibility to defend our faith.

All that hard talk aside, I often pray God will open the eyes of people who do not know Him, specifically muslims. Praying for the salvation of our enemies may be the greatest act of love we can give them.

 

[blondieindahouse]

Why is this even being debated in a Christian site with fellow brothers and sisters debating against one another.

This shows we are putting our political agenda's ahead of what God has laid out for us to act............

No Christian is to live in hatred toward any other individuals, as hate speech is not the way of God.

Apostle John gives a clear warning that if we live in hatred toward others then the Truth/eternal life does not abide in us.

Question yourself do you still have hate or have you learned to let hatred go ???

I see what you are saying but I do not think it is a clear representation of what is actually happening here. Well, I know for myself, I hate evil! Islam is not of God so therefore sharia law is that of evil! Theres nothing wrong with talking about what is happening on our soil or around the world. We need to be informed dont we? I feel some people are so heavenly focused that they are no earthly good............
Its all about balance and putting God first! That right there should be the revealing truth. Do we put God first? Are we lovers of the truth or do we love evil? We can be loving and abide in the truth at the same time cant we? Love doesnt always appear as a fuzzy teddybear. The truth divides and always has! God never told us to bury our heads in the sand and sing kumbayah all day

 

[prove-all]

(1) expresses its condolences for the victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes;

so soon maybe we can not even say boo, about those who caried out 9 -11 ,
or againest iran being accused, and a law suite againest them, there help planning 9 11
who our government does not declare a threat, or thinks cuba next door is our friend.

or those few blowing others up is just a trend, we promise we will not be like them.

 

[Mitspa]

publicly using racial slurs, deliberately to intimidate or provoke?

You mean Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barak Hussain Obama? Yes lets outlaw these guys as soon as we can.

 

[Desdichado]

You mean Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barak Hussain Obama? Yes lets outlaw these guys as soon as we can.

Harry Reid, Robert C. Byrd, et al.

 

[KennethC]

I see what you are saying but I do not think it is a clear representation of what is actually happening here. Well, I know for myself, I hate evil! Islam is not of God so therefore sharia law is that of evil! Theres nothing wrong with talking about what is happening on our soil or around the world. We need to be informed dont we? I feel some people are so heavenly focused that they are no earthly good............
Its all about balance and putting God first! That right there should be the revealing truth. Do we put God first? Are we lovers of the truth or do we love evil? We can be loving and abide in the truth at the same time cant we? Love doesnt always appear as a fuzzy teddybear. The truth divides and always has! God never told us to bury our heads in the sand and sing kumbayah all day

Actually no as the Lord Jesus said our focus is to be on the heavenly kingdom and not of this world, because if we place our focus on the world then we get caught up in worldly things that then takes focus off of Christ.

My response was to those who were against outlawing hate speech arguing with those for it...........

For us Christians hate speech should not even be a part of our standing in Christ, and if we take and place the free speech agenda ahead of God's way to allow hate speech then we would be supporting sinful actions.

The other issue is that hate speech being allowed or not is being blown out of proportion to make a Sharia Law issue....

This topic can be talked about in all nationalities, it is not just a Sharia Law topic.

The only reason this whole Sharia Law is being brought up is because it is referring to hate speech being thrown at the Muslims. Hate speech should be outlawed in all forms, but that is only my perference as it aligns with what God's way is.
Rather it gets done or not is another issue as we are not to force our ways on others !!!

 

[Mitspa]

Actually no as the Lord Jesus said our focus is to be on the heavenly kingdom and not of this world, because if we place our focus on the world then we get caught up in worldly things that then takes focus off of Christ.

My response was to those who were against outlawing hate speech arguing with those for it...........

For us Christians hate speech should not even be a part of our standing in Christ, and if we take and place the free speech agenda ahead of God's way to allow hate speech then we would be supporting sinful actions.

The other issue is that hate speech being allowed or not is being blown out of proportion to make a Sharia Law issue....

This topic can be talked about in all nationalities, it is not just a Sharia Law topic.

The only reason this whole Sharia Law is being brought up is because it is referring to hate speech being thrown at the Muslims. Hate speech should be outlawed in all forms, but that is only my perference as it aligns with what God's way is.
Rather it gets done or not is another issue as we are not to force our ways on others !!!

Your problem is that the liberals consider the truth of Christ ...hate speech .... calling homosexual acts a "sin" is hate speech to the liberals trying to make these laws.

 

[Desdichado]

As an aside and tacit response to many posts, there is a difference between unjustified hatred and exercising prudence for the sake of national survival.

 

[KennethC]

Because Christianity is under attack in America and beyond. islam and socialist democrats are the main conspirators and I deem them enemies to the fullest extent. Responsible citizens discuss the issues and make necessary preparations.

My point was Christians arguing on rather hate speech should be allowed or not.

Not the attack that Christianity is under here in the U.S. and other places.

Hate speech should not even be an issue with us Christians because hate is not the way of God.

Apostle John makes it clear where those who hate others stand and its not in Christ !!!

 

[KennethC]

As an aside and tacit response to many posts, there is a difference between unjustified hatred and exercising prudence for the sake of national survival.

There is no teaching in the bible that justifies us to show hatred, and the only time it speaks of us getting angry it says not to let the sun go down on our wrath.

That means work it out and let it go, not to carry on holding this hatred over on others.

 

[Oncefallen]

True.....any racial hate should not be protected by the First Amendment

publicly using racial slurs, deliberately to intimidate or provoke?

There's only one problem with this, as soon as you allow the First Amendment to be limited so that it does not cover "hate speech" you then begin to allow a governmental bureaucracy to determine what "hate speech" encompasses. Once you run down this slippery slope you end up with YOUR disagreement with some protected group's activities being labeled as "hate speech".

This has happened all over Europe where a Christian pastor can be fined or even jailed under "hate speech" laws for preaching the Bible's perspective on homosexuality.

Albeit I despise those persons who throw around racially degrading terms, I will defend their right to hold and voice their despicable opinions.