The Holy spirit isn't in the bible.
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Jesus Himself claimed to be God. Do you not believe His own words?
Mark 14: 62- 60And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it whichthese witness against thee? 61But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62And Jesus said, I am:
Exodus 3:14- 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,I Amhath sent me unto you.
Mark 14 :62 -...and you shall see THE SON OF MAN
Daniel 7:13 - I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like the Son of Man was coming
Mark 14:62- SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER
Psalm 110: 1- The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Jesus was speaking to Jews in the NT. He knew that they knew the OT. They knew what I Am,Son of Man and Seated at the right hand of the Father alluded to. The high priest knew what Jesus was saying,that he was claiming to be God.
Mark 14:63 -Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.
Why did the priest tear his clothes? What was the blasphemy? He was claiming to be God, to be divine.The priest knew the OT Scriptures Jesus was alluding to. So you either believe what Jesus said about Himself of you believe heresy. Simple as that.
I am just curious, do you at least agree that there is a Godhead? 
Colossians 2:9 - For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:9 - For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
they asked him if he was the son of the most high to which Jesus responded 'I am" . so i take the verse to mean that Jesus was claiming to be the christ, by saying I am (he). we do the same thing in english.
are you an american? answer
"I am (he)."
claiming that Jesus is God because he uttered the greek words ego eimi is less than extremely weak proof that Jesus is God. Greeks say ego eimi (I am) all the time
are you an american? answer
"I am (he)."
claiming that Jesus is God because he uttered the greek words ego eimi is less than extremely weak proof that Jesus is God. Greeks say ego eimi (I am) all the time
lol that was very interesting point you are making however, it is not the context of what Jesus said in John 1, 10 , 11 , 12, 13, 14
Jesus is the Life= Zoe =of the absolute fulness of life, both essential and ethical, which belongs to God, and through him both to the hypostatic "logos" and to Christ in whom the "logos" put on human nature
John 10:30 I and my Father are one. - the context here is face to face
:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him - why did they do this?
:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. - which is saying " to make you [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif]God the Father, Theos.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] to water it down with "are you an american " answered i am clearly is not why they looked to stone Jesus . Jesus said I AM and the Pharisees knew exactly what Jesus was saying. This is the theme of the Gospel of John. Jesus is the Christ, He is the Savior , and HE is Lord and He is God [/FONT]
K
Quote "they asked him if he was the son of the most high to which Jesus responded 'I am" . so i take the verse to mean that Jesus was claiming to be the christ, by saying I am (he). we do the same thing in english.
are you an american? answer
"I am (he)."
No,I am sorry, you aren't understanding it correctly. The Jews well knew what I AM meant. It would have been blasphemy to claim to be I AM,it is what God said to Moses. The Jews knew the OT. And Jesus well knew what He was saying.
Quote "claiming that Jesus is God because he uttered the greek words ego eimi is less than extremely weak proof that Jesus is God. Greeks say ego eimi (I am) all the time
Greeks may say it all the time but not in the context Jesus was saying it. He was alluding to the OT. Also He referred to the Son of Man and Seated at the right hand. You say its extremely weak because you have been blinded by false doctrine. I think you better read the Book again friend,and add prayer.You're way out on left field and too stubborn to be taught. Jesus claimed to be God,your belief is heresy.
K
Whats your point? Son of Man and Son of God,He was both God and Man.
John 8 -Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Once again Jesus used the term I AM referring to HIMSELF. And they were going to stone Him because He was claiming to be God!
John 8 -Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Once again Jesus used the term I AM referring to HIMSELF. And they were going to stone Him because He was claiming to be God!
since you have changed the definition of nature to mean man or god, you still have the same problem. Because Man is a soul and God is a spirit. thus you still have the same problem, your doctrine means Jesus is two beings a soul and a spirit. which is of course nonsense supremo.
and one god which is spirit is 3 persons which are humans. so you have one = 3, which again is nonsense supremo. But of course you have no idea what you mean by person, nor does anyone else, which makes your statement mean nothing. words have to mean something, if they don't , as is the case with your post, then nothing is said. you've said nothing.
and one god which is spirit is 3 persons which are humans. so you have one = 3, which again is nonsense supremo. But of course you have no idea what you mean by person, nor does anyone else, which makes your statement mean nothing. words have to mean something, if they don't , as is the case with your post, then nothing is said. you've said nothing.
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