The Holy spirit isn't in the bible.

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blue_ladybug

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Sin is passed to us in the blood and we get our blood from our fathers, not our mothers. since God created new human male seed to begat Jesus with, Adam's sinful nature wasn't passed on to Jesus. Jesus is the last adam, the new creation of God and is as sinless as Adam was before the fall. Adam failed, Jesus succeeded.

Ummm, Jesus didn't get a sinful nature from EITHER parent. God was his father, and Mary was a virgin. She was sinful, yes, but God's DNA over-rode that.. :) JMO
 

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MODS can we get this thread closed ?
He will just start another one with his wild stories about being an angel, and sitting with them in church, and his imaginary angel friend Sonja.. :/ I hope no one actually believes a word he says.
 
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No thanks, they'd no doubt tell me to give up my angel friends, and especially Sonja.

je comprends maintenant

bien ...je comprends bien

I just like how it sounds in French

well, you and Todd have a good one then
 
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He will just start another one with his wild stories about being an angel, and sitting with them in church, and his imaginary angel friend Sonja.. :/ I hope no one actually believes a word he says.
too late, I've already learned a great deal from telling about some of my angel/vision/dream experiences. Experiences that the church I use to go to made me keep quite about for almost 6 years. what a relief that was to be able to tell someone what i have been experiencing. I've got tons of other experiences in that realm if you wanna hear them?
 
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je comprends maintenant

bien ...je comprends bien

I just like how it sounds in French

well, you and Todd have a good one then
oooh cool, I just started speaking in my french tongue language when i read what you wrote. I speak french faster than anyone in the world can, cause it's in tongues.
 
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angels in this case = false lying spirits seducing the seducible (is that a word?) anyway...

yeah I 2nd the motion...close down the thread

enough with the mockery...7 pages of it is more than enough I would think
 
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angels in this case = false lying spirits seducing the seducible (is that a word?) anyway...

yeah I 2nd the motion...close down the thread

enough with the mockery...7 pages of it is more than enough I would think
The mods must be taking a nap:confused:
 
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angels in this case = false lying spirits seducing the seducible (is that a word?) anyway...

yeah I 2nd the motion...close down the thread

enough with the mockery...7 pages of it is more than enough I would think
my 2 hour bike ride with an angel is a really good experience I had, wanna hear it? I really like telling them because it's like I relive the experience in the telling.
 
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The mods must be taking a nap:confused:

we could just help out and quit the thread

that's my best advice...after all, an audience is all that is wanted here

leaving...you are welcome to join me....:eek:
 
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we could just help out and quit the thread

that's my best advice...after all, an audience is all that is wanted here

leaving...you are welcome to join me....:eek:
leaving already? well, you should go to the marry Jesus thread in bible discussion. i told of a fantastic 7 part vision series I had in there. it was a phenomenal experience, you should check it out.
 
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No thanks, they'd no doubt tell me to give up my angel friends, and especially Sonja.
No more than they would tell me to give up my teddy bears. (Meh. I don't take them to church, so that help. lol) Sometimes we just accept people with their baggage, fully aware the baggage may or may not leave by their choice one day.

I don't see you as harmful, since you keep talking about what the Bible doesn't have in it, all the while I keep giving you the list of where those things are in the Bible. So, it's not like you would damage someone else with your beliefs. Either you're in need of someone with a good mental health background or you're a troll. Either way, you're as harmless as my teddy bears, so no one is going to make you do anything.

Other than that, you definitely have you're-quite-the-character going for you, so I like you.

I also suspect we're both getting a kick on how much effort is being used to try to change your mind. Is it working? Not really, because people don't change merely because others determine they should. There's only one who can change us, and I hope you stick around a while to learn who God is.

I also really do hope you get help in real life because the type of help you need can't be done online.

I really like you. You remind me of a couple of my brothers combined with your own flare for uniquely you.
 
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No more than they would tell me to give up my teddy bears. (Meh. I don't take them to church, so that help. lol) Sometimes we just accept people with their baggage, fully aware the baggage may or may not leave by their choice one day.

I don't see you as harmful, since you keep talking about what the Bible doesn't have in it, all the while I keep giving you the list of where those things are in the Bible. So, it's not like you would damage someone else with your beliefs. Either you're in need of someone with a good mental health background or you're a troll. Either way, you're as harmless as my teddy bears, so no one is going to make you do anything.

Other than that, you definitely have you're-quite-the-character going for you, so I like you.

I also suspect we're both getting a kick on how much effort is being used to try to change your mind. Is it working? Not really, because people don't change merely because others determine they should. There's only one who can change us, and I hope you stick around a while to learn who God is.

I also really do hope you get help in real life because the type of help you need can't be done online.

I really like you. You remind me of a couple of my brothers combined with your own flare for uniquely you.
You should read my 7 or 8 part vision series, post #118 here.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/103182-desire-marry-jesus-6.html

it was a super fantastic experience.
 
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MODS can we get this thread closed ?
Why? She's not harming anyone, and if you're not interested, it's fine to simply not come back.

We don't need mods to control our actions, and since there is a large amount of evidence on this thread that counteracts against his/her teachings, why must this thread be closed?
 

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I like to be open about supernatural things, but angel2u2 you seem to have encountered fallen angels masquerading as angels of light. If what they are teaching you is that Jesus is not God, that He isn't divine, and that the Holy Spirit isn't in the bible it is because they wish to deceive you and ultimately bring you to Hell with them.

You may be experiencing visions and dreams, but their source is not God.
 
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I like to be open about supernatural things, but angel2u2 you seem to have encountered fallen angels masquerading as angels of light. If what they are teaching you is that Jesus is not God, that He isn't divine, and that the Holy Spirit isn't in the bible it is because they wish to deceive you and ultimately bring you to Hell with them.
I got my doctrine from the church I went to, my angel friends don't teach me doctrine, but they do bring to my remembrance truths i"ve already learned.

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You may be experiencing visions and dreams, but their source is not God.
and you know this without even hearing them, and without giving any reasons why they are demonic if you heard one?
sounds like your mind is made up
 

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I got my doctrine from the church I went to, my angel friends don't teach me doctrine, but they do bring to my remembrance truths i"ve already learned.

and you know this without even hearing them, and without giving any reasons why they are demonic if you heard one?
sounds like your mind is made up
If they are confirming truths you learned in a church, false "truths" then they are not angels sent by the Holy Spirit. If angels are coming in agreement that Jesus is not Lord, that He isn't the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega, and so on, then they are fallen angels trying to deceive you.

If at any time one of these "angel friends" of yours has come in agreement that the Trinity is false, Jesus isn't God, or that the Holy Spirit isn't in the bible then you are being deceived.
 
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Why? She's not harming anyone, and if you're not interested, it's fine to simply not come back.

We don't need mods to control our actions, and since there is a large amount of evidence on this thread that counteracts against his/her teachings, why must this thread be closed?
Because he is bringing another gospel contrary to what Christians adhere to. Sparkman ( a MOD)said it as well. He is not here to learn anything. He is here to bring division and confusion to babies in Christ. If he amuses you,get his email. He wont be here that much longer I guarantee ya.
 

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I read the passage, and it appears to me that Jesus was identifying himself as a helper when we ask for anything in his name, the holy spirit, aka God the father, is the other helper. That's my understanding, not that there are two holy spirit helpers.

So in order to support your conclusion, you have to have Jesus use 'Comforter' to talk about himself in 3rd person, and then you have to have him use the same word to talk about the Father-talking-about-himself-in-third-person. All in one conversation.

This is convoluted and you've wasted your time as well as everyone else's. It reminds me of a desperate attempt to cut someone out of a photograph by pasting other faces over that person's face. And who would benefit from convincing people that the Holy Spirit doesn't exist? Unholy spirits -- because they compete for the same space and role in our lives that the Holy Spirit occupies.

I don't know why you find the idea of the trinity so confusing, when Christ said he was one with the Father and talked about us being one with him as well. Perhaps you just don't understand oneness.