Homosexual Brother, need HELP!

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It is time to start living righteous, get rid of the sin in your life, stop living your life for YOU, start living you life for God and Him ONLY. Are you prepared to die for HIM? You all say "Yes" But your not willing to give up the sin that so easily besets you, for Him are you? Hypocrites!! You claim with your mouths that Jesus is Your Savior and Lord and Master, but willingly obey satan to commit that sin that you are not willing to cease from. Hypocrites.

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Hmmm, my question to you is do you think I am a homosexual because of my comment? I am wondering your agenda. You must be a hypocrite of some sort.

You are a product of deception.

Do a study on the subject.

God Will Not play ball with your beliefs.

We can believe all sorts of things.

W/O the word of God as our standard,we are in a "fools paradise"
So now you know what God is thinking, some sort of false prophet? I have my opinions, whether you like them or not. Suck it up sunshine, I live in a world that I can have an opinion. God has granted me that free will. God has granted you the free will to think what you want as well. Do not try to understand me from one comment.
 
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Hmmm, my question to you is do you think I am a homosexual because of my comment? I am wondering your agenda. You must be a hypocrite of some sort.



So now you know what God is thinking, some sort of false prophet? I have my opinions, whether you like them or not. Suck it up sunshine, I live in a world that I can have an opinion. God has granted me that free will. God has granted you the free will to think what you want as well. Do not try to understand me from one comment.
Being a slave to sin..is not "free-will" its called slavery ...
 
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Being a slave to sin..is not "free-will" its called slavery ...
And yet another person sticking their nose in. I am still wanting someone to define this sin that I am commiting by stating an opinion.
 
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And yet another person sticking their nose in. I am still wanting someone to define this sin that I am commiting by stating an opinion.
I guessing from what I have read...its a unbiblical opinion? That's called a "lie"...
 
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But we still make the choice to put ourselves there. Don't we?
Good point...in Christ we have the choice to serve God or sin... even a believer can make themselves a slave to sin when they are really free ... But before Christ ..all are born slaves to sin on a certain level
 
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Good point...in Christ we have the choice to serve God or sin... even a believer can make themselves a slave to sin when they are really free ... But before Christ ..all are born slaves to sin on a certain level
I think it is pretty a pretty difficult process normally for a person who comes to Christ.... especially when they are a grown up. They say on average it takes 5 to 7 years to get emotionally and spiritually well.....and it requires diligence and effort.
 
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I think it is pretty a pretty difficult process normally for a person who comes to Christ.... especially when they are a grown up. They say on average it takes 5 to 7 years to get emotionally and spiritually well.....and it requires diligence and effort.
I don't know sirk...I have seen folks come slowly to a place of surrender and like me I was changed in a moment when I understood Gods power to change me ... I had one of those intense run-ins with the God of Heaven and Earth and knew I was set-free from sins power over me.
 
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I have ministered to drug-addicts for years and seen folks change through a process and sometimes folks get zapped like I did.
 
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I don't know sirk...I have seen folks come slowly to a place of surrender and like me I was changed in a moment when I understood Gods power to change me ... I had one of those intense run-ins with the God of Heaven and Earth and knew I was set-free from sins power over me.

That's really great Mitspa. I think there are lots of cases where people do a complete 180 and don't look back. My journey has been different. And I've been a Christian since I was 12. There are a lot of things that factor in like family dynamics and stuff. It can be a hard road for some.
 
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I guessing from what I have read...its a unbiblical opinion? That's called a "lie"...
So what you are telling me is you are flapping at the gums of something you have no idea about? Congratulations!

Let me clarify to you what my opinion is-

I am sick and tired of Christian's hatred of LGBT. I call it hatred because it turns into a debate that sends most people over the top. But you can call it what you will.
1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
You consistently throw harsh words. Should we not love thy neighbor. Show compassion? You bad mouthing them is doing nothing for their souls. Congratulations you are slicing gashes in your nets o' fishers of men. I do not agree with their lifestyle, but I will not bash them. I will love them as God has loved my sinful self.

Lev 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Check and Rog
Exodus 20:6 Thou shalt not murder.


Maybe understanding my point would be more helpful than attempting to berate it, misinterpret it, or just not care what others think. Which is the going rate for older people now a days. We are called to fish for men, screaming your GOING TO HELL every chance you get.....good luck and hopefully you wont meet them their for your sins you battle.

Yes I also understand that most LGBT's are not actively seeking God, but I bet you are screaming at the top of your lungs hailing some secular artist at a concert. But if they were gay it changes everything. Congratulations you have now become what I was called earlier, Hypocrite. Not directing that necessarily at you Mitspa, just clarifying.
 
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So what you are telling me is you are flapping at the gums of something you have no idea about? Congratulations!

Let me clarify to you what my opinion is-

I am sick and tired of Christian's hatred of LGBT. I call it hatred because it turns into a debate that sends most people over the top. But you can call it what you will.
1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
You consistently throw harsh words. Should we not love thy neighbor. Show compassion? You bad mouthing them is doing nothing for their souls. Congratulations you are slicing gashes in your nets o' fishers of men. I do not agree with their lifestyle, but I will not bash them. I will love them as God has loved my sinful self.

Lev 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Check and Rog
Exodus 20:6 Thou shalt not murder.


Maybe understanding my point would be more helpful than attempting to berate it, misinterpret it, or just not care what others think. Which is the going rate for older people now a days. We are called to fish for men, screaming your GOING TO HELL every chance you get.....good luck and hopefully you wont meet them their for your sins you battle.

Yes I also understand that most LGBT's are not actively seeking God, but I bet you are screaming at the top of your lungs hailing some secular artist at a concert. But if they were gay it changes everything. Congratulations you have now become what I was called earlier, Hypocrite. Not directing that necessarily at you Mitspa, just clarifying.
So if your against the gay agenda and the perversion of our society and the church...that's "hate" ...well do you describes "hate" you.. or the does God? Because God says to promote this evil and not speak against it is hate? I guess God is full of hate in your PC world? And I suggest you lay back on the attitude before you get your feelings hurt.
 
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I guess God is full of hate in your PC world? And I suggest you lay back on the attitude before you get your feelings hurt.
Because that is exacty what I said, so now you are resorting to person attacks?
 
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Because that is exacty what I said, so now you are resorting to person attacks?
So how does God describe "hate" ..does He hate folks when He tells them homosexuality is unacceptable to Him?
 
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I think it comes down to this, people hate Truth. They are so wrapped around the idea if we say anything truthful, even if it hurts, we are being hateful or lack any sort of Love. It is an old argument and has no merit when it comes to the Word of God.
 
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I think it comes down to this, people hate Truth. They are so wrapped around the idea if we say anything truthful, even if it hurts, we are being hateful or lack any sort of Love. It is an old argument and has no merit when it comes to the Word of God.
Yea well those of us who actually know what biblical love is and actually know God and His Love...cant be moved by this nonsense that is called "love" in the PC world we live in...folks call sex "love" ...don't mean anything
 
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I think it comes down to this, people hate Truth. They are so wrapped around the idea if we say anything truthful, even if it hurts, we are being hateful or lack any sort of Love. It is an old argument and has no merit when it comes to the Word of God.
People want to be affirmed in their positions on things. Whether their position is legit or not. When a dearly held mindset is questioned they call it hate.
 
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So how does God describe "hate" ..does He hate folks when He tells them homosexuality is unacceptable to Him?
I never said God describes "hate". So possibly stop speaking slander. Do not put words in my mouth. If you misunderstand what I say ask me what I meant. I definitely stated that it was by my definition " I call it hatred because it turns into a debate that sends most people over the top. But you can call it what you will." . My example was "Yes I also understand that most LGBT's are not actively seeking God, but I bet you are screaming at the top of your lungs hailing some secular artist at a concert. But if they were gay it changes everything. Congratulations you have now become what I was called earlier, Hypocrite. Not directing that necessarily at you Mitspa, just clarifying."

People sin everyday but I don't see Christians berating them, just LGBT. I fully understand that it is a bad lifestyle, I have had no less than 50 people on this site, and half of my family let me know their opinion. I do not condone it either. But I have my opinion as well. That is MY point of view, you can either be ok with it. You can pray about it, or you can not like it. Either way I have explained my views. I understand people love arguments (debates) but I am not one of them. Good luck on your future endeavors, God bless.
 
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I never said God describes "hate". So possibly stop speaking slander. Do not put words in my mouth. If you misunderstand what I say ask me what I meant. I definitely stated that it was by my definition " I call it hatred because it turns into a debate that sends most people over the top. But you can call it what you will." . My example was "Yes I also understand that most LGBT's are not actively seeking God, but I bet you are screaming at the top of your lungs hailing some secular artist at a concert. But if they were gay it changes everything. Congratulations you have now become what I was called earlier, Hypocrite. Not directing that necessarily at you Mitspa, just clarifying."

People sin everyday but I don't see Christians berating them, just LGBT. I fully understand that it is a bad lifestyle, I have had no less than 50 people on this site, and half of my family let me know their opinion. I do not condone it either. But I have my opinion as well. That is MY point of view, you can either be ok with it. You can pray about it, or you can not like it. Either way I have explained my views. I understand people love arguments (debates) but I am not one of them. Good luck on your future endeavors, God bless.
Of course God describes hate and love in the sound doctrine of scripture ...so to define "hate" or "love" apart from what God has said these things are is just foolish and vain. To let the world describe what love or hate is and ignore God...is just not acceptable and is in fact a sinful lie.