Yeah, I'm with you! I asked God for a quick vision of Hell just to motivate me (evangelism ) and instead I get walk through...it was absolutely horrible and there is a very dangerous doctrine going around that hell isn't eternal. I saw eternal torment of mental pain and anguish in this fire that never goes out. This is the 2nd time God has showed me that hell was eternal. I used to be an Annihilationist.
Hell. It is in the Bible isnt it?
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Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Some we save with compassion,some we save with fear.
Psa 63:9 But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.
Hell is in the lower parts of the earth.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
The earth will be thrown in to the lake of fire.
Isa_66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
The people that are lost,will feel the effects of the flesh,for eternity.
This is if they rejected the truth,or did not hear the word of God,but did not love people.
Creation testifies that there is a God,and His attributes,which love is one,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing,and shelter,so people are without excuse if they do not believe in a higher power,and love people,for love is the fulfilling of the law,and they know right,from wrong,so people that never heard the word of God,will be judged on those things,and if they loved people to God's satisfaction,and did right to God's satisfaction,and if the people repented for anything that is amiss,they can dwell with God after the millennial reign of Christ,when the dead are raised to be judged,because God is a fair,and just God.
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Some we save with compassion,some we save with fear.
Psa 63:9 But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.
Hell is in the lower parts of the earth.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
The earth will be thrown in to the lake of fire.
Isa_66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
The people that are lost,will feel the effects of the flesh,for eternity.
This is if they rejected the truth,or did not hear the word of God,but did not love people.
Creation testifies that there is a God,and His attributes,which love is one,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing,and shelter,so people are without excuse if they do not believe in a higher power,and love people,for love is the fulfilling of the law,and they know right,from wrong,so people that never heard the word of God,will be judged on those things,and if they loved people to God's satisfaction,and did right to God's satisfaction,and if the people repented for anything that is amiss,they can dwell with God after the millennial reign of Christ,when the dead are raised to be judged,because God is a fair,and just God.
Heres a good entailed bible study for you with little understanding .
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/hell-sheol-hades-paradise-and-the-grave/
There seems to be some confusion about the meaning of Hell and who goes there because of the way the Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word Hades have been translated in our English Bibles. Since this confusion has led some into an erroneous understanding of what the Bible actually teaches about the intermediate state and the final state of the dead, we think that it is important that we address this subject here.
Sheol is found in the Bible sixty-five times. It is translated “the pit” three times, “the grave” thirty-one times, and “hell” thirty-one times. Hades is used eleven times, being rendered “hell” ten times and “grave” once. Adding to the confusion is that two other words are also translated hell in the New Testament. These are Tartarus, which is found once and Gehenna, which is used twelve times.
The term “Hell” is commonly understood to mean a place of torment where the souls of the wicked go after physical death. This is true. However, because Hades in the New Testament and Sheol in the Old are variously rendered hell or grave, there has been some misunderstanding about what hell and the grave are. Before looking at these words though, we should first give our attention to the Greek word Gehenna, which is always translated hell and used in reference to the Lake of Fire. It is found in Matthew 5:22,29,30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; and James 3:6.
[h=2]THE FINAL HELL[/h] The Lake of Fire, or Hell, is a literal place of everlasting fire that was originally created by God as a place of punishment for Satan and the angels that followed him in his rebellion against God (Mat. 25:41). Because it is referred to as the place of “outer darkness” (Mat. 8:12; 25:30), we believe that it is most probably located at the farthest reaches of the creation. Gehenna is described in Scripture as a “furnace of fire” (Mat. 13:42); “everlasting punishment” (Mat. 25:46); “the mist [gloom] of darkness” (II Pet. 2:17); the “hurt of the second death” (Rev. 2:11 cf. 20:6,14; 21:8); “a lake of fire burning with brimstone” (Rev. 19:20; 20:10; 21:8).
While Hell was created for Satan and the other fallen angels, the unsaved of humanity from all ages will be with them in this place of torment where “there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth” (Mat. 13:42). This is the “everlasting reward” of all that die in their sins.
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/hell-sheol-hades-paradise-and-the-grave/
There seems to be some confusion about the meaning of Hell and who goes there because of the way the Hebrew word Sheol and the Greek word Hades have been translated in our English Bibles. Since this confusion has led some into an erroneous understanding of what the Bible actually teaches about the intermediate state and the final state of the dead, we think that it is important that we address this subject here.
Sheol is found in the Bible sixty-five times. It is translated “the pit” three times, “the grave” thirty-one times, and “hell” thirty-one times. Hades is used eleven times, being rendered “hell” ten times and “grave” once. Adding to the confusion is that two other words are also translated hell in the New Testament. These are Tartarus, which is found once and Gehenna, which is used twelve times.
The term “Hell” is commonly understood to mean a place of torment where the souls of the wicked go after physical death. This is true. However, because Hades in the New Testament and Sheol in the Old are variously rendered hell or grave, there has been some misunderstanding about what hell and the grave are. Before looking at these words though, we should first give our attention to the Greek word Gehenna, which is always translated hell and used in reference to the Lake of Fire. It is found in Matthew 5:22,29,30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; and James 3:6.
[h=2]THE FINAL HELL[/h] The Lake of Fire, or Hell, is a literal place of everlasting fire that was originally created by God as a place of punishment for Satan and the angels that followed him in his rebellion against God (Mat. 25:41). Because it is referred to as the place of “outer darkness” (Mat. 8:12; 25:30), we believe that it is most probably located at the farthest reaches of the creation. Gehenna is described in Scripture as a “furnace of fire” (Mat. 13:42); “everlasting punishment” (Mat. 25:46); “the mist [gloom] of darkness” (II Pet. 2:17); the “hurt of the second death” (Rev. 2:11 cf. 20:6,14; 21:8); “a lake of fire burning with brimstone” (Rev. 19:20; 20:10; 21:8).
While Hell was created for Satan and the other fallen angels, the unsaved of humanity from all ages will be with them in this place of torment where “there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth” (Mat. 13:42). This is the “everlasting reward” of all that die in their sins.
Fine, that's good! So this means, you must believe Christ and his words about literal hell... if not Christ must be joking and the cross is nothing. What for is there that Christ to suffer, bled and died and salvation is offered if there's no hell...
Eph.2;16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slainthe enmity thereby:
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at theright hand of the throne of God.
Christ on Hell, Hope this will suffice...
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Eph.2;16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slainthe enmity thereby:
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at theright hand of the throne of God.
Christ on Hell, Hope this will suffice...
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
The story of the Rich Man and Lazarus that is found in Luke 16:19-31 gives us the record of a remarkable conversation that took place in Hades between the Rich Man and Abraham. Obviously, these two men could not have had this conversation at all if Sheol/Hades is only a place where dead bodies are buried. First, there could be no communication between lifeless, decaying corpses and second, Abraham’s body, which was buried in the cave of Machpelah over 1800 years earlier, had long since decayed. Also, the rich man’s body, regardless of whether it had decayed or not, would not have been buried in the burial cave of Abraham. From the context, it is obvious that these men were in the place of departed souls rather than a burial place.
yeah we see that from the story of lazarus and the rich man.... the grave
I disagree. I just did another indepth study on both Sheol (Heb.) and Hades (Gk), which are referring to the same location and which should never be translated as grave or tomb. The Hebrew qeber is the proper name for tomb, sepulcher and mnémeion is its Greek counterpart. Sheol/Hades should always be translated in the original to make a distinction between grave or tomb from the place of departed spirits, which is Sheol/Hades. Here is Strong's definition of both:
Strong's Concordance
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: sheol
Phonetic Spelling: (sheh-ole')
Short Definition: SheolNAS Exhaustive Concordance
Definition
underworld (place to which people descend at death) the underworld,
Or shol {sheh-ole'}; from sha'al; Hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates -- grave, hell, pit.
HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.
Hades, the abode of departed spirits
From a (as negative particle) and eido; properly, unseen, i.e. "Hades" or the place (state) of departed souls -- grave, hell.
Just as the event of the rich man and Lazarus, Sheol/Hades the place of departed spirits. The scripture shows both men alive and then dying and then scripture shows the spirit of both men in Sheol/Hades, aware and conscious.
sheol: underworld (place to which people descend at death)
Original Word: שְׁאוֹלPart of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: sheol
Phonetic Spelling: (sheh-ole')
Short Definition: SheolNAS Exhaustive Concordance
Definition
underworld (place to which people descend at death) the underworld,
Or shol {sheh-ole'}; from sha'al; Hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates -- grave, hell, pit.
HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.
Hades, the abode of departed spirits
From a (as negative particle) and eido; properly, unseen, i.e. "Hades" or the place (state) of departed souls -- grave, hell.
Just as the event of the rich man and Lazarus, Sheol/Hades the place of departed spirits. The scripture shows both men alive and then dying and then scripture shows the spirit of both men in Sheol/Hades, aware and conscious.
I forget the committee/council's name and the guy's name but it can be found in this FANTASTIC non-biased movie.
Does Hell Exist? If So, Who Ends Up There, And Why? - Hellbound the Movie
Every reliable source website I'm looking through just says "Catholic Bishops compiled the Bible" haha. Doesn't really matter though cause their in Hell now...right? Those Catholic heretical Bible-compiling heathens...
Does Hell Exist? If So, Who Ends Up There, And Why? - Hellbound the Movie
Every reliable source website I'm looking through just says "Catholic Bishops compiled the Bible" haha. Doesn't really matter though cause their in Hell now...right? Those Catholic heretical Bible-compiling heathens...
Also, I'd like to just say that I'm not opposed to the idea of a torturous, tormenting Hell. I'm just opposed to people who say that it's heresy not to believe in anything but that, like the Bible is super specific about it as opposed to Annihilationism. If you're a douche, you're probably getting the hammer. Don't know for sure what kind of hammer, but it's still a hammer. That's my personal doctrine about Hell.
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