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And the amazing thing about this is while we are 'learning' how to love others as He loves us., the satisfaction of actually doing what we were made in Christ to do., will not seem like a sacrifice at all but a new and living way!
And admittedly., although at first it is NOT easy for us in ourselves to love someone who is sooooooooooo annoying., the knowledge of how God is pleased when we trust Him to work it out in and through us will give us a major satisfaction AND also a major blessing and joyful anticipation of what God will do next in our lives.
God blesses us when we walk with Him. There is a reason that the love of God constrains us and motivates us. It IS the answer to living a joyful and happy content life. We obey God because we love Him and know His ways are best and will yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness. After getting a taste of this., we want more and more.
Even though God asks us to do things that seem hard at first.., the pay back is always always much bigger than what we put out. He keeps giving and giving and giving. He is the One who teachings us all about giving. And how does He do that? by giving above and beyond what we could even ask or think. Not only in the life to come, but also in this life while we are learning. He won't leave us empty as we give out what we have. He keeps filling us as we give out what He first gave us. (that is how we learn)
That's the secret. Trusting Him to meet our needs as we 'sacrifice' what we have., I've found the way God trains me is to never leave me lacking when I hold on to what He gives me with a lose hand. And there that saying is about God blesses us so that we can be a blessing to others. His "store houses" are not bare. And the Good Shepherd promises we shall not "want" or lack when we follow Him.
It's only when we hold on tight to material things and don't follow Him that we lack. And not just material things but also our pride and selfishness. Let go of those things knowing God will cause us to have enough and then some of all that stuff. He will be our self assurance and He will give us our self worth IN Jesus. We don't need to strive for it. When we strive for it., it seems to elude us. But when we allow Him to give it to us., we lack for none of it. (seriously, that is the nature of God.,He is the Giver., He keeps giving and giving) And then we learn how to do the same. We can't learn this lesson if we are empty. Man made religion has it all wrong. His ways are much much higher than ours. Man's silly and small attempts to be "spiritual" are even laughable and soooo lacking.
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Bingo
The qualifier.
Jesus elaborated on the death.
Human love is no match for Gods love. They are not the same.
The way to a life of sacrifice,is a pre empting death,then subsequent filling.
The act of of love can be mechanical or consequential.
Love can be human emotion or pure as from God.
Agape vs eros
The reason for Jesus walk of perfection is in fact the love ingredient expressed in the God man.
Love is found everywhere. Not the God love,but love with motives.
Jesus never sought anything illicit,because he loved people. He did not seek his own advancement.
The " love" defended here could mean either dimension.
Again ,enter the "one dimensional " road to "either/or"
Will await the "schooling" on how God never includes an automatic love in his habitat of the emptied repentant vessel.
The qualifier.
Jesus elaborated on the death.
Human love is no match for Gods love. They are not the same.
The way to a life of sacrifice,is a pre empting death,then subsequent filling.
The act of of love can be mechanical or consequential.
Love can be human emotion or pure as from God.
Agape vs eros
The reason for Jesus walk of perfection is in fact the love ingredient expressed in the God man.
Love is found everywhere. Not the God love,but love with motives.
Jesus never sought anything illicit,because he loved people. He did not seek his own advancement.
The " love" defended here could mean either dimension.
Again ,enter the "one dimensional " road to "either/or"
Will await the "schooling" on how God never includes an automatic love in his habitat of the emptied repentant vessel.
It is simple. Too simple for most to grasp.
John 14:15 If ye love me, (you will) keep my commandments.
People make this a backward formula for attempting to prove that they are regenerated. But if you love the Lord something happens. It makes you want to abide in Christ. To be with Him. To receive what He gives.
John 15:5 [SUP] [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Its this fruit of abiding in Christ that keeps the commandments. Its not by our work or our understanding or our strength, but by the gift of God through Christ.
In this way we are the workmanship of God through Christ. (Eph 2:10)
What does it look like?
It looks like Galatians 5:22-23.
John 14:15 If ye love me, (you will) keep my commandments.
People make this a backward formula for attempting to prove that they are regenerated. But if you love the Lord something happens. It makes you want to abide in Christ. To be with Him. To receive what He gives.
John 15:5 [SUP] [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Its this fruit of abiding in Christ that keeps the commandments. Its not by our work or our understanding or our strength, but by the gift of God through Christ.
In this way we are the workmanship of God through Christ. (Eph 2:10)
What does it look like?
It looks like Galatians 5:22-23.
1 John 2:4
He that saith, (Claiming) I know him,
and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar,
and the truth is not in him.
These two shown together
1 John 4:20
If a man say, (Claiming) I love God,
and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And who is a liar here also
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
We are to believe in His Son and keep his commandments
1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment,
That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ,
and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:12
This is my commandment,
That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John 15:17
These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Acts 1:1
The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus,
of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
Acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost
had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen
1 Cr 7:19
Circumcision is nothing,
and uncircumcision is nothing,
but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Gal 5:6
For in Jesus Christ
neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision;
but faith which worketh by love.
1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him,
if we keep his commandments.
1 John 3:22
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him,
because we keep his commandments, and do those things
that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment,
That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ,
and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.
And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God,
when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:
and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments.
This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Try this way in how it is worded
2 John 1:6
And this is love, ...
That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it
(so, love) walk in love
Ephes 5:1-2
Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us,
and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God
for a sweetsmelling savour.
1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him,
if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, (Claiming) I know him,
and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar,
and the truth is not in him.
These two shown together
1 John 4:20
If a man say, (Claiming) I love God,
and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
And who is a liar here also
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
We are to believe in His Son and keep his commandments
1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment,
That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ,
and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:12
This is my commandment,
That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John 15:17
These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Acts 1:1
The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus,
of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
Acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost
had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen
1 Cr 7:19
Circumcision is nothing,
and uncircumcision is nothing,
but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Gal 5:6
For in Jesus Christ
neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision;
but faith which worketh by love.
1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him,
if we keep his commandments.
1 John 3:22
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him,
because we keep his commandments, and do those things
that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment,
That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ,
and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.
And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God,
when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world:
and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments.
This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Try this way in how it is worded
2 John 1:6
And this is love, ...
That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it
(so, love) walk in love
Ephes 5:1-2
Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us,
and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God
for a sweetsmelling savour.
1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him,
if we keep his commandments.
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Precisely.
This was a benefit in the early church. The upper room dismissed a bunch of drunks. Believers saturated in God.
Some beekeepers sprinkle baby powder on the bees before gathering the honey.
The bees are so preoccupied with the powder,they forget the upsetting intruder.
This is how God chose to intensify his church. Covering his people with his presence.
What we are seeing here is an ACTUAL OBJECTION to God's presence being a positive force.
That dimension is thrown aside in favor of "lawful obedience" .
It is bizarre but this site is heavy into one dimensionalism.
Jesus is either a lion or a lamb. Cannot possibly be both
This was a benefit in the early church. The upper room dismissed a bunch of drunks. Believers saturated in God.
Some beekeepers sprinkle baby powder on the bees before gathering the honey.
The bees are so preoccupied with the powder,they forget the upsetting intruder.
This is how God chose to intensify his church. Covering his people with his presence.
What we are seeing here is an ACTUAL OBJECTION to God's presence being a positive force.
That dimension is thrown aside in favor of "lawful obedience" .
It is bizarre but this site is heavy into one dimensionalism.
Jesus is either a lion or a lamb. Cannot possibly be both
Galatians 3:2-3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Ephesians 2:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ezekiel 36:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP]A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Matthew 22:37-40
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Ephesians 2:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ezekiel 36:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP]A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Matthew 22:37-40
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Besides not agreeing with it myself , I am married, having a husband that would never agree with supporting a drunken sexual deviant type that might be atracted to him. Even if he did I (as his wife) am also subject to him (my husband)
Whereas your wife on the other hand must not rule over you.
You cant use her as an excuse as I can use my own husband. She (as a christian wife) must needs be subject to what you (as her husband) would have others do to qualify for this love of God (as this sort of proof) as you might preach it to others. I can use YOUR excuse whereas you cant, its on the husband to rule over his wife in such decisions as the man of the house (and as one under God) who believes this is service to God (and preaches the same to others).
Whereas your wife on the other hand must not rule over you.
You cant use her as an excuse as I can use my own husband. She (as a christian wife) must needs be subject to what you (as her husband) would have others do to qualify for this love of God (as this sort of proof) as you might preach it to others. I can use YOUR excuse whereas you cant, its on the husband to rule over his wife in such decisions as the man of the house (and as one under God) who believes this is service to God (and preaches the same to others).
Do you think His Commandments aren't contained in the Law described in Matthew 22:37-40?
Do you think His Commandments aren't performed by the Spirit?
Do I feel??? No I don't feel those scriptures were of the law. I know those scriptures were of the law.
I feel the Holy Spirit is the One who keeps His Commandments... I feel it is not our understanding nor our strength nor our will that keeps His Commandments.
Do you think His Commandments aren't performed by the Spirit?
Do I feel??? No I don't feel those scriptures were of the law. I know those scriptures were of the law.
I feel the Holy Spirit is the One who keeps His Commandments... I feel it is not our understanding nor our strength nor our will that keeps His Commandments.