Instrumental music in worship?

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melita916

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well, this was interesting.

our hands are musical instrument, folks. we gotta chop them off now. *sarcasm*
 
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I have already countered all of these comments but I will do it again ...... Instruments in psalms are under old law ..... Instruments in revelations is symbolic like the four horsemen..... No we aren't given permission to use microphones with a specific scripture but the bible already speaks on how we are to praise God and if you can't find a New Testament example then you are adding and adding is sin..... And God did not leave us to our own "intelligence" God says it is not within man to direct his own steps! ......... And finally the idea that God will be pleased with whatever worship we give him is a lie , Uzah had good intentions but disobeyed and died ,, Aaron's sons gave unauthorized fire and God consumed them in it.... How more clearly do you need it spelled out? If God doesn't authorize it and he has spoken on it then it is sin!
 
Willie-T

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Sirderp said:
I have already countered all of these comments but I will do it again ...... Instruments in psalms are under old law ..... Instruments in revelations is symbolic like the four horsemen..... No we aren't given permission to use microphones with a specific scripture but the bible already speaks on how we are to praise God and if you can't find a New Testament example then you are adding and adding is sin..... And God did not leave us to our own "intelligence" God says it is not within man to direct his own steps! ......... And finally the idea that God will be pleased with whatever worship we give him is a lie , Uzah had good intentions but disobeyed and died ,, Aaron's sons gave unauthorized fire and God consumed them in it.... How more clearly do you need it spelled out? If God doesn't authorize it and he has spoken on it then it is sin!
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I hope you wake up soon. Don't you even see how you claim to go by the NT, but here you are, instead, going to the OT to make points that are actually in contradiction to the NT.
 
Demi777

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Sirderp said:
I have already countered all of these comments but I will do it again ...... Instruments in psalms are under old law ..... Instruments in revelations is symbolic like the four horsemen..... No we aren't given permission to use microphones with a specific scripture but the bible already speaks on how we are to praise God and if you can't find a New Testament example then you are adding and adding is sin..... And God did not leave us to our own "intelligence" God says it is not within man to direct his own steps! ......... And finally the idea that God will be pleased with whatever worship we give him is a lie , Uzah had good intentions but disobeyed and died ,, Aaron's sons gave unauthorized fire and God consumed them in it.... How more clearly do you need it spelled out? If God doesn't authorize it and he has spoken on it then it is sin!
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Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to abolish it so what your saying is unscriptural.
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
 
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Willie-T said:
I hope you wake up soon. Don't you even see how you claim to go by the NT, but here you are, instead, going to the OT to make points that are actually in contradiction to the NT.
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2tim 3:16 .... Romans 15:4 .... The Old Testament is not good for our law that we are under but it is good for learning through others mistakes
 
melita916

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Willie-T said:
I hope you wake up soon. Don't you even see how you claim to go by the NT, but here you are, instead, going to the OT to make points that are actually in contradiction to the NT.
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i had the same thought.
 
Demi777

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Sirderp said:
2tim 3:16 .... Romans 15:4 .... The Old Testament is not good for our law that we are under but it is good for learning through others mistakes
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Romans 17:13
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
 
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Demi777 said:
Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to abolish it so what your saying is unscriptural.
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
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The fulfilling of the law is being about that which was prophesied in Isaiah (the coming of Christ) the old law with temporary sacrifices was meant to be destroyed by the perfect sacrifice (Jesus the lamb) ..... If you go down to verse 21-22 you see there are still commands and rules! They are just different!
 
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Demi777 said:
Romans 17:13
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
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Yes the law (new law) is just and good ... But it needs to be the law we are under !
 
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Hi troll
Bye troll
 
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I sincerely hope you are joking with thinking it's a sin to use intruments to glorify God......
 
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Sirderp said:
The fulfilling of the law is being about that which was prophesied in Isaiah (the coming of Christ) the old law with temporary sacrifices was meant to be destroyed by the perfect sacrifice (Jesus the lamb) ..... If you go down to verse 21-22 you see there are still commands and rules! They are just different!
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The only thing that changed that we dont have to sacrefice and kill people for their sins any longer. Homosexuality,stealing,lying,murder,.. are still forbidden so the law still stands and will. For the law is perfect.
 
melita916

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the bible doesn't mention the internet.

we are all in trouble.
 
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Demi777 said:
The only thing that changed that we dont have to sacrefice and kill people for their sins any longer. Homosexuality,stealing,lying,murder,.. are still forbidden so the law still stands and will. For the law is perfect.
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Where do you find this in scripture?
 
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Give me scripture and I will be convinced
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Pretty sad existence as a Christian if your focus on your spiritual walk is creating a new law for people to live under and spending your time among other Christians trying to force them into submission under that new law. So very Christ-like.
 
Willie-T

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TemporaryCircumstances said:
I sincerely hope you are joking with thinking it's a sin to use intruments to glorify God......
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He's very serious. Many CoC people are thoroughly brainwashed, and it takes years for them to begin to think for themselves... if they ever do.
 
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Ugly said:
Pretty sad existence as a Christian if your focus on your spiritual walk is creating a new law for people to live under and spending your time among other Christians trying to force them into submission under that new law. So very Christ-like.
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I'm not the perso who wrote all the commands and rules in the New Testament! Are you saying we are under no law or the old law?
 
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