Our mortal enemy has deceived the church with many lies!
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The use of words. Religion was used to define the area of beliefs around
God or gods, the metaphysical as opposed to the physical.
Now if this is the meaning of the word religion, then to say all religions are false is to
be an atheist, or to believe there is nothing outside naturalism.
But I think as normal this is a totally subjective use of the term religion.
What is meant is any religion that is different from "their version" is false.
And they would say they are not religious, which in normal language means
their form of ceremonies, teaching, rituals etc are true, while everyone
elses is false.
Now to even use words like this is to be very very arrogant. It determines
they can differentiate definatively their position over others, which is clearly
not the case. They use a religious book the bible as their base authority,
and everything they practise is embedded in christianity.
So to put it simply they are lying and missusing words.
Now people who clearly are doing this, miss the point completely. The use
of language in easily understandable ways communicates, but they would
rather reinterpret words and use them differently which is their common theme.
They claim christianity has peverted or corrupted everything, and their version
of the words is correct, and they are the correct type of christian etc.
It reminds me of muslims and Mohammeds claim of the true faith...
God or gods, the metaphysical as opposed to the physical.
Now if this is the meaning of the word religion, then to say all religions are false is to
be an atheist, or to believe there is nothing outside naturalism.
But I think as normal this is a totally subjective use of the term religion.
What is meant is any religion that is different from "their version" is false.
And they would say they are not religious, which in normal language means
their form of ceremonies, teaching, rituals etc are true, while everyone
elses is false.
Now to even use words like this is to be very very arrogant. It determines
they can differentiate definatively their position over others, which is clearly
not the case. They use a religious book the bible as their base authority,
and everything they practise is embedded in christianity.
So to put it simply they are lying and missusing words.
Now people who clearly are doing this, miss the point completely. The use
of language in easily understandable ways communicates, but they would
rather reinterpret words and use them differently which is their common theme.
They claim christianity has peverted or corrupted everything, and their version
of the words is correct, and they are the correct type of christian etc.
It reminds me of muslims and Mohammeds claim of the true faith...
F
I'll let another speak for me, since I really do have stuff to do now. He says it better than I ever could anyway.
"Religion consists of all the things (believing, behaving, worshiping, sacrificing) the human race has ever thought it had to do to get right with God. About those things, Christianity has only two comments to make. The first is that none of them ever had the least chance of doing the trick: the blood of bulls and goats can never take away sins (see the Epistle to the Hebrews) and no effort of ours to keep the law of God can ever finally succeed (see the Epistle to the Romans). The second is that everything religion tried (and failed) to do has been perfectly done, once and for all, by Jesus in his death and resurrection. For Christians, therefore, the entire religion shop has been closed, boarded up, and forgotten. The church is not in the religion business. It never has been and it never will be, in spite of all the ecclesiastical turkeys through two thousand years who have acted as if religion was their stock in trade. The church, instead, is in the Gospel-proclaiming business. It is not here to bring the world the bad news that God will think kindly about us only after we have gone through certain creedal, liturgical and ethical wickets; it is here to bring the world the Good News that “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the ungodly.” It is here, in short, for no religious purpose at all, only to announce the Gospel of free grace." -Robert F. Capon
"Religion consists of all the things (believing, behaving, worshiping, sacrificing) the human race has ever thought it had to do to get right with God. About those things, Christianity has only two comments to make. The first is that none of them ever had the least chance of doing the trick: the blood of bulls and goats can never take away sins (see the Epistle to the Hebrews) and no effort of ours to keep the law of God can ever finally succeed (see the Epistle to the Romans). The second is that everything religion tried (and failed) to do has been perfectly done, once and for all, by Jesus in his death and resurrection. For Christians, therefore, the entire religion shop has been closed, boarded up, and forgotten. The church is not in the religion business. It never has been and it never will be, in spite of all the ecclesiastical turkeys through two thousand years who have acted as if religion was their stock in trade. The church, instead, is in the Gospel-proclaiming business. It is not here to bring the world the bad news that God will think kindly about us only after we have gone through certain creedal, liturgical and ethical wickets; it is here to bring the world the Good News that “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the ungodly.” It is here, in short, for no religious purpose at all, only to announce the Gospel of free grace." -Robert F. Capon
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HEB.11:19.
Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
obviously Talisha, you are very familiar with the culture of the Hebrews - there's really not much said
about an after life, although there are definite allusions to it...
but Abraham certainly believed that God had the power to 'raise the dead'...
where it says that Abraham received Him in a figure, Isaac', he was accounted as good as dead,
because he had been commanded to offer up His only son for a burnt offering -
but when the 'Angel said, 'stop', he was spared, this is parallel to the (2) goats on
The Day of Atonement...Ishmael was sent into the wilderness with his mother,
and Isaac was offered-up as a 'burnt offering'...
the Book of Hebrews works on the 'frame-work' of Leviticus 16, The Day of Atonement...
HEB.11:19.
Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
obviously Talisha, you are very familiar with the culture of the Hebrews - there's really not much said
about an after life, although there are definite allusions to it...
but Abraham certainly believed that God had the power to 'raise the dead'...
where it says that Abraham received Him in a figure, Isaac', he was accounted as good as dead,
because he had been commanded to offer up His only son for a burnt offering -
but when the 'Angel said, 'stop', he was spared, this is parallel to the (2) goats on
The Day of Atonement...Ishmael was sent into the wilderness with his mother,
and Isaac was offered-up as a 'burnt offering'...
the Book of Hebrews works on the 'frame-work' of Leviticus 16, The Day of Atonement...
How can you expect to understand anything that God has said if you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior Talishi? You are walking in Darkness. Darkness so great that you cannot even begin to understand who God is. So why should we listen to you considering that you do not even have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit?
All you have is garbage from this world. We have all the Truth from God.
Repent Talishi and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
All you have is garbage from this world. We have all the Truth from God.
Repent Talishi and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
G
Disciplemike, I do not believe you fully understand the "gospel of the grace of God. If you believe in order to keep your salvation, you have to keep the commandments, which include works, you have "fallen from grace". Israel under the "gospel of the Kingdom" had to keep the commandments. Here are a couple of verses relevant to this conversation.
Ephesians 2:14-16 King James Version (KJV)[SUP]14 [/SUP]For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[SUP]15 {{{[/SUP]Having abolished}}} in his flesh the enmity, [[[even the law of commandments contained in ordinances]]]; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
What happens to a person who has believed according to Romans 10:8-10 and he continues to be caught up in habitual sin? The Apostle Paul says it very plain.
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
[SUP]17 [/SUP](((If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy))); for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians 5:5, concerning a man sleeping with his father's wife.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To (((deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh))), [[[that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.]]]
Ephesians 2:14-16 King James Version (KJV)[SUP]14 [/SUP]For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[SUP]15 {{{[/SUP]Having abolished}}} in his flesh the enmity, [[[even the law of commandments contained in ordinances]]]; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
What happens to a person who has believed according to Romans 10:8-10 and he continues to be caught up in habitual sin? The Apostle Paul says it very plain.
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
[SUP]17 [/SUP](((If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy))); for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians 5:5, concerning a man sleeping with his father's wife.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To (((deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh))), [[[that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.]]]