Romans 8:1-2, is conditional

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PeterJens

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Go to say as a side point, I am not blaming anyone for my problems.
I do not have a "problem." I walk with the Lord and share my heart.

Now it is always possible to change everything and flip everyones intentions
into something evil, unless actually there is nothing there.

And it shows up the flippers for who they are, provoking problems and issues
that do not exist. And emotionally I have seen people flipped like this, so it
can work as a tactic, but not on me which is why EG is so so bothered.
 
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PeterJens said:
Here is EG the liar and slanderer.

I come speaking the truth, talking scripture, what the Lord has laid on my
heart, and continually I get a long list of sins I have commited, which I have not.

But then the enemy always attacks the messenger and not the message.

So Jesus tells me, Halleluyah for great is your reward in Heaven.

So rather than tearing down what I have to say, he is pointing to is veracity,
because as his hatred of this message rises so does its impact and reality.
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e.g is one of the most truthful people on this site. again, disagreeing with you or criticizing you is not lies or slander. you sir, mr. peter do not know everything. neither do I, but I recognize that I don't.
 
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the authority without responsibility theology. ( miss type ) lol (above)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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gb9 said:
e.g is one of the most truthful people on this site. again, disagreeing with you or criticizing you is not lies or slander. you sir, mr. peter do not know everything. neither do I, but I recognize that I don't.
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It takes humility to admit when your wrong. That's the problem with religion. Religion has to puff itself up. So it can not admit when it is wrong, it has to lie
 
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gb9 said:
e.g is one of the most truthful people on this site. again, disagreeing with you or criticizing you is not lies or slander. you sir, mr. peter do not know everything. neither do I, but I recognize that I don't.
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I recognise I know very little, but what I do know I care a lot about it.

EG continually said I was lying, evil, slanderer, insulter etc.

What was odd from our groups position in our language and outlook none
of this was true.

After some thought, I can see how a statement of faith could be taken as
an insult, and because they disliked it so much, representing belief in another
way a lie.

I got so bad people said we were trampling on the cross by our walk of faith.

At this point you have to say this is actually not real, but different faiths and
cultures.

I spent a long time establishing the mystical aspect of the theology, and finally
some have accepted they believe a different faith, yet with a similar language.

The difficulty is then giving others the abililty to express themselves without
impuning their integrity.

EG as demonstrated here has no problems impuning mine, which I am just pointing
out. I do not mind people talking factually about being upset or saying I said this
or that wrong, but general abuse is just not following Jesus. It is that simple.
 
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I answered her point my friend.

But as I said before the idea of speaking from me or the flesh is an alien
concept not in scripture. Or cannot you read what I write?
I cannot make it simpler.

And my point is about feelings, openness and sharing. Or does this pass
you by as well? As I am your enemy, I suppose it must because how things
impact me is not a concern of many.

It was like when someone first suggested I spoke to satan instead of Christ.
A bit of a shock coming from a "believer", who felt they had the authority to
advise elders and whole fellowships. But there you have the great emotional
fest at work, the authority with responsibility theology. Love was never on
their agenda.
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Just being open and trying to come to a conclusion.

So you understood her point? What was it?
 
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Past record of interaction with EG is pages of nothing, and when asked to
produce evidence, nothing.

Now I have no problem with being corrected, with being shown sin, or error,
with theology or talking through points, but these accusations, must be driven
by deep anger from the past nothing to do with me. And yes EG was a
legalist, driven to conflict, which he now inflicts on any hapless victim that
comes his way, lol.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Just being open and trying to come to a conclusion.

So you understood her point? What was it?
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Good luck with him answering this.. It would be awesome if he did though..
 
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You have to tell me, because you claim to know it so well, and I do not, lol
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Just being open and honest and want a conclusion, just like you.

You just said you addressed her point. what was her point? I may have took it wrong.
 
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Gr8grace said:
Just being open and honest and want a conclusion, just like you.
You just said you addressed her point. what was her point? I may have took it wrong.
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? What ? You are shy about telling me my mistake?
If I have not answered the issue please show me.
I have no reason to go over old ground my friend.

Because otherwise this is just talking about nothing. Another slander
tactic with no real purpose. Are you EG in reality?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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? What ? You are shy about telling me my mistake?
If I have not answered the issue please show me.
I have no reason to go over old ground my friend.

Because otherwise this is just talking about nothing. Another slander
tactic with no real purpose. Are you EG in reality?
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Same tactic..

Why do people bother (I decided to look, to see if there was any real change)

Here is the fact. Peter does not know. He knows he does not know. so he will refuse to answer the question, and blame others (I guess here he blames me. what a joke!!)

I pray grace continues to force him to answer,, So the whole chatroom will see the truth.. Peter Claims he answered, and knows, But wil never tell us,, if he did, it would be quite easy to go back and copy and past the quote where he did these things.. But he wont, because he can't (of course everyone knows this)
 
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? What ? You are shy about telling me my mistake?
If I have not answered the issue please show me.
I have no reason to go over old ground my friend.

Because otherwise this is just talking about nothing. Another slander
tactic with no real purpose. Are you EG in reality?
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You haven't answered it. I can't show you.

What was her point?
 
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Gr8grace said:
You haven't answered it. I can't show you.
What was her point?
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Then you are going to have to tell me what you are talking
about because I answered everything I needed to.

I do not think you know what you are talking about?
Unless you can show me, it is just vapourware.
 
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A pointless exercise. You are guilty of something.
Tell me what you are guilty of.
You do not know what you are guilty of because you have not told me.
How dare you not know what I have not told you I am talking about.

Now this might make sense to nutcases, but not to me.
What kind of people talk like this?

I would never describe this as christian behaviour.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Same tactic..

Why do people bother (I decided to look, to see if there was any real change)

Here is the fact. Peter does not know. He knows he does not know. so he will refuse to answer the question, and blame others (I guess here he blames me. what a joke!!)

I pray grace continues to force him to answer,, So the whole chatroom will see the truth.. Peter Claims he answered, and knows, But wil never tell us,, if he did, it would be quite easy to go back and copy and past the quote where he did these things.. But he wont, because he can't (of course everyone knows this)
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This is an odd way of talking.
I am not sure what motivates people to even go down this road.

It strikes me they have a history of picking on individuals, finding an issue
and then trying to make someone feel bad about it. But if there is nothing
there, then in reality it is just a type of bullying, or attempt at it.

It shows the nature of a man who dedicates so much effort on a single point
he believes is significant but is just invented to cause upset.

And this is the point. It is not about resolution or even correction, it is just
a method of destruction and vindictiveness. I have come across this with
people who are sociopaths, they cannot let go of an idea that brings them
domination. His behaviour and approach is always the same, and always
leads to nothing, but this inflated attack and assault.

I hate to call it miss-guided, but it is something disfunctional. Only EG attempts
this, no one else is that twisted.
 
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Gr8grace

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PeterJens said:
Then you are going to have to tell me what you are talking
about because I answered everything I needed to.

I do not think you know what you are talking about?
Unless you can show me, it is just vapourware.
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Peter~~miknik5 - This is your first post on this thread directly aimed at me.

Still do not understand it, but this is a provocation.
Funny how people do not remember their own behaviour lol


Originally Posted by miknik5

Flesh, flesh, flesh...I am not interested.
It still will not change the TRUTH.



What was her point?
 
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Gr8grace

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Peter~~miknik5 - This is your first post on this thread directly aimed at me.

Still do not understand it, but this is a provocation.
Funny how people do not remember their own behaviour lol


Originally Posted by miknik5

Flesh, flesh, flesh...I am not interested.
It still will not change the TRUTH.



What was her point?
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Then my post 264~~

Gr8grace

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Originally Posted by PeterJens

Still do not understand it



You really don't understand her exchange with you? Everybody else here does.

Why can't you see it? Even if she was wrong?​


 
PeterJens

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Grace8 Do you know english?
You are stating a repetition of a question, what a joker you are, lol

If you want to make a contribution, asking the question again is not contributing
my friend or is english comprehension beyond you?
 
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Do you want a definition of what attempting condemnation is?
The above is an attempt at it.
 
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