"replacement theology" - what is it?

[plainguy]

Let's forego the childish semantics on "who killed Jesus'. I have zero doubt that all here recognize that it was for all of our sins that Christ died. None of us are deserving of His Grace. But in dealing with the specifics of the matter, who isn't aware that Lazarus' life was also sought because many believed in Jesus on account of him being raised from the dead ? And by whom ? Who was told that the blood of all the prophets from the beginning of the world would be held to their account ? Why ? To simply say this does not make one an antisemite ... unless the writers of the gospels are also included in any such observation. The fact of the matter is that God's plan for man's redemption was fulfilled according to God's desire and wisdom.

Luke 11:47-52

47 “Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your ancestors who killed them. 48 So you testify that you approve of what your ancestors did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49 Because of this, God in his wisdom said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.’ 50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.
52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Does that mean you don't know of any verses that say we killed Christ?

I do not know any verses that say trinity Does that mean there is no such thing as trinity.

"And by the way I already showed you som. It is called redemption.

Dude you do not want to discuss anything, why bother?

 

[KJV1611]

I would think that in any way shape or form His death is not attributed to men.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Was his death attributed to Judas?

Mark 14:21 KJV
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I would think that in any way shape or form His death is not attributed to men.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

THANK YOU!! Yes, this is correct. and is in reality the cold hard facts.

 

[KJV1611]

I do not know any verses that say trinity Does that mean there is no such thing as trinity.

"And by the way I already showed you som. It is called redemption.

Dude you do not want to discuss anything, why bother?

Colossians 2:9 KJV
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Let's forego the childish semantics on "who killed Jesus'. I have zero doubt that all here recognize that it was for all of our sins that Christ died. None of us are deserving of His Grace. But in dealing with the specifics of the matter, who isn't aware that Lazarus' life was also sought because many believed in Jesus on account of him being raised from the dead ? And by whom ? Who was told that the blood of all the prophets from the beginning of the world would be held to their account ? Why ? To simply say this does not make one an antisemite ... unless the writers of the gospels are also included in any such observation. The fact of the matter is that God's plan for man's redemption was fulfilled according to God's desire and wisdom.

Luke 11:47-52

47 “Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your ancestors who killed them. 48 So you testify that you approve of what your ancestors did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49 Because of this, God in his wisdom said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.’ 50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.
52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

You do realise this was not talking about the jewish nation. But legalistic jews.. Which the same could be said for the church, who would do the same thing if it came to it..

 

[KJV1611]

THANK YOU!! Yes, this is correct. and is in reality the cold hard facts.

What about Judas, was he held responsible?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Colossians 2:9 KJV
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

I have read it three times now. Do not see the word trinity.

Lets stop. You know what your doing, you asking for the direct words, All men killed christ. It is no more written in those words, than the word trinity is used. so please.

 

[garee]

Was his death attributed to Judas?

Mark 14:21 KJV
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

I would say no it was attributed to Himself .He gave up the Ghost when he finished all the work necessary.. Not the Satan inspired crowd.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What about Judas, was he held responsible?

what about him? Did he not kill himself? Did he kill jesus, or did JESUS ALLOW HIM TO DO WHAT HE DID??

This is getting rediculous. This is nonsensical.

 

[trofimus]

I would think that in any way shape or form His death is not attributed to men.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

So the destruction of Jerusalem and casting out of Jews from Palestine for 2000 years is just a coincident?

Remember what Paul is saying -

"the wrath of God (wrath is always because of something) came upon them [Jews] to the end."

So how can you say men are not responsible for His death.

 

[trofimus]

Was his death attributed to Judas?

Mark 14:21 KJV
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

Very good verse. Explaining that even though the actions of men are predestined, they are still responsible, because they want to do these actions.

I hope it will help EG to see.

 

[jaybird88]

[SUP]Luke 18 31 - 33
31 [/SUP]And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished. [SUP]32 [/SUP]For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Very good verse. Explaining that even though the actions of men are predestined, they are still responsible, because they want to do these actions.

I hope it will help EG to see.

EG never denied this. Hope you will get over thinking you know what EG knows and how he thinks. And actually try to understand what he says.

 

[trofimus]

[SUP]Luke 18 31 - 33
31 [/SUP]And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished. [SUP]32 [/SUP]For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”

Both Jews and Gentiles killed our Lord.

Jews from hatred, Gentiles by a command.

 

[trofimus]

EG never denied this. Hope you will get over thinking you know what EG knows and how he thinks. And actually try to understand what he says.

EG denied this when he was saying Jews are not responsible for the death of Christ, because Christ came to give up his life freely.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

[SUP]Luke 18 31 - 33
31 [/SUP]And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished. [SUP]32 [/SUP]For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”

There ya have it, the bible says the Gentiles will kill him.

Maybe now they will see? (As was just said about me)

 

[trofimus]

There ya have it, the bible says the Gentiles will kill him.

Maybe now they will see? (As was just said about me)

Nobody of us ever denied it was Romans who processed the execution.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG denied this when he was saying Jews are not responsible for the death of Christ, because Christ came to give up his life freely.

EG said EG was just as guilty a Judas was. Meaning he did not take any blame away from Judas.

Or do you selectively read?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Nobody of us ever denied it was Romans who processed the execution.

Yet you want to keep blaming the Jews.. That passage said they killed him, They did not just process anyth9ing, they murdered him.

I am done with this line of reasoning, let's get back on topic. This is stupid.