What’s involved in doing God’s will unto salvation?
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EG greatest attribute is to share, to take stands, to kick others around and then
claim no one knows him. I think after a year+ people know him, his MO.
It is confrontational, assertive, bossy, and condescending. Reminds me of thistles,
briars you get caught in and wish you had never tried. No matter how you share,
or which aspect you put forward, you will be dealt with as if you are evil, wrong,
dishonest, lying, which is actually the opposite of ones own heart.
He thinks he is saved because he can behave like this and there are no consequences.
He is convinced everyone not like him is doomed. So while condemning others for
"judging" him about what he does and shares, he dispossess others of the very grace
they have received from our Saviour. A more confused blind man you cannot find.
To behave like this you have to have a heart of stone, which says it all.
claim no one knows him. I think after a year+ people know him, his MO.
It is confrontational, assertive, bossy, and condescending. Reminds me of thistles,
briars you get caught in and wish you had never tried. No matter how you share,
or which aspect you put forward, you will be dealt with as if you are evil, wrong,
dishonest, lying, which is actually the opposite of ones own heart.
He thinks he is saved because he can behave like this and there are no consequences.
He is convinced everyone not like him is doomed. So while condemning others for
"judging" him about what he does and shares, he dispossess others of the very grace
they have received from our Saviour. A more confused blind man you cannot find.
To behave like this you have to have a heart of stone, which says it all.
So who obeys Him? The saved or the lost? I've heard many works-salvationists use this verse to try and support salvation by works. They write a blank check with the word obey then write in their check list of works they consider to be obeying Him, when in fact they are not.
Only believers have obeyed Him by choosing to believe the gospel (Romans 1:16) in order to become saved and only believers obey Him after they have been saved through faith by keeping His commandments and practicing righteousness and not sin (1 John 2:3; 3:9,10). In either sense, believers obey Him.
Unbelievers have not obeyed Him by refusing to believe the gospel (Romans 10:16) and without faith its impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6), so unbelievers do not obey Him no matter how much "so-called" obedience that they attempt to conjure up through the flesh in a vain effort to receive salvation based on their works. So in either sense, unbelievers do not obey Him.
Only believers have obeyed Him by choosing to believe the gospel (Romans 1:16) in order to become saved and only believers obey Him after they have been saved through faith by keeping His commandments and practicing righteousness and not sin (1 John 2:3; 3:9,10). In either sense, believers obey Him.
Unbelievers have not obeyed Him by refusing to believe the gospel (Romans 10:16) and without faith its impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6), so unbelievers do not obey Him no matter how much "so-called" obedience that they attempt to conjure up through the flesh in a vain effort to receive salvation based on their works. So in either sense, unbelievers do not obey Him.
Ezekiel 33:13
When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
My brothers and sisters in Christ this man and myself are only quoting the words of God. The world is under the biggest deception that man has ever known in it's entire history. Even people who think of themselves as Christians who will enter heaven will be cast into the pit with satan because they believe this one lie....the greatest lie! That Jesus saves you in your sin instead of from sin. The devil wants you to think that all you have to do is believe in Jesus for forgiveness of your sins and you can continue on with your everyday life living in a lie, living in sin, indulging the flesh. Our time my friends is shorter than it has ever been and God is closer than he has been in a very long time. You must repent of your sin and ask forgiveness and sin no more! Jesus can keep you from sin. Do not believe the lies of the enemy! These preachers who convince you that you can have everlasting life by just believing in Jesus for forgiveness are lying to you! There is a judgement coming and when that time comes it will already be too late. God's laws have been laid before us, seek God above all things and he will direct your path and aid you in living a life of righteousness for him. God is real, he is so close to us! The scientists and NASA want you to think that you are far from your God, that is why they come up with these models of how big the universe is to make you think we were just some coincidence or cosmic hiccup in the universe that just magically pulled off a feat that is completely and utterly impossible. They want God to themselves therefore they tell us that God is far from us!
Ezekiel 11:14-16
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the Lord: unto us is this land given in possession.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.
You were made in the image of God; He created you, me, everybody. God is not as far for as you think and nobody and I mean nobody will be safe from God's wrath when it's unleashed. Turn away from your sins now for the time of judgement is coming. God will not delay His coming. The powers that be want you to believe that, but they too also know that their time is short. There is a Judgement coming not just for the house of Israel but the Gentiles also.
God did not have a book written just to be the best selling book in the history of man. God is warning us, God will speak again and as He speaks it shall be done, there will be no more new prophesy because God's judgement is the final prophesy. From that point on God will speak and it will be done so as it was in the beginning.
Ezekiel 12:23-28
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord God; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I am the Lord: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord God.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the Lord God.
There is no more prophesy, God has said it all and will say no more until he returns. When God does come it will be too late for all those who practice abominations in front of the Lord. Turn from your sins now, repent and live for the Lord does not delay his coming much longer. Truth can not be seen by all those who have eyes to see and ears to hear for we are in the midst of a rebellious house. Don't let your eyes and ears be blinded by the rebellion!
Ezekiel 12:2
Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Romans 1:28-32
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Their abominations are not hidden, they are seen by the whole world. They mock you and your God and Christ for they have been given over to a reprobate (wicked) mind. Israel and the whole world has turned it's back on God and has followed the ways of the pagans. If you have not already been given over to a reprobate mind you will see what I am saying about everything. If you are one of God's elect you cannot be fooled by the lies of satan. From this day forward your life will never be the same. Your doubts of God will perish and the spirit will reveal the truths hidden among all the lies. There will be many who will be elected by God but there are also many who will perish. I don't need to go any further because only God knows how many will be saved.
Revelation 7:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
The veil has been lifted, the answers are there, they are in the Bible, they are all around you. You can see it for yourself it is all there. May all who read this warning see the truth. Satan will mock me just as he did Jesus and his mockery will be a sign to all those who witness it. God will reveal these things to those who truly love him, share the truth with those you love so that their blood is not on your hands come judgement day. I have shared with you this thing so that every man and woman whom reads this can be saved... and the blood will not be on their head, nor will it be on my hand.
God will not delay his coming much longer, repent and sin no more and follow God in his laws or face judgement and destruction.
When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
My brothers and sisters in Christ this man and myself are only quoting the words of God. The world is under the biggest deception that man has ever known in it's entire history. Even people who think of themselves as Christians who will enter heaven will be cast into the pit with satan because they believe this one lie....the greatest lie! That Jesus saves you in your sin instead of from sin. The devil wants you to think that all you have to do is believe in Jesus for forgiveness of your sins and you can continue on with your everyday life living in a lie, living in sin, indulging the flesh. Our time my friends is shorter than it has ever been and God is closer than he has been in a very long time. You must repent of your sin and ask forgiveness and sin no more! Jesus can keep you from sin. Do not believe the lies of the enemy! These preachers who convince you that you can have everlasting life by just believing in Jesus for forgiveness are lying to you! There is a judgement coming and when that time comes it will already be too late. God's laws have been laid before us, seek God above all things and he will direct your path and aid you in living a life of righteousness for him. God is real, he is so close to us! The scientists and NASA want you to think that you are far from your God, that is why they come up with these models of how big the universe is to make you think we were just some coincidence or cosmic hiccup in the universe that just magically pulled off a feat that is completely and utterly impossible. They want God to themselves therefore they tell us that God is far from us!
Ezekiel 11:14-16
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the Lord: unto us is this land given in possession.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.
You were made in the image of God; He created you, me, everybody. God is not as far for as you think and nobody and I mean nobody will be safe from God's wrath when it's unleashed. Turn away from your sins now for the time of judgement is coming. God will not delay His coming. The powers that be want you to believe that, but they too also know that their time is short. There is a Judgement coming not just for the house of Israel but the Gentiles also.
God did not have a book written just to be the best selling book in the history of man. God is warning us, God will speak again and as He speaks it shall be done, there will be no more new prophesy because God's judgement is the final prophesy. From that point on God will speak and it will be done so as it was in the beginning.
Ezekiel 12:23-28
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord God; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I am the Lord: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord God.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the Lord God.
There is no more prophesy, God has said it all and will say no more until he returns. When God does come it will be too late for all those who practice abominations in front of the Lord. Turn from your sins now, repent and live for the Lord does not delay his coming much longer. Truth can not be seen by all those who have eyes to see and ears to hear for we are in the midst of a rebellious house. Don't let your eyes and ears be blinded by the rebellion!
Ezekiel 12:2
Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.
Romans 1:28-32
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Their abominations are not hidden, they are seen by the whole world. They mock you and your God and Christ for they have been given over to a reprobate (wicked) mind. Israel and the whole world has turned it's back on God and has followed the ways of the pagans. If you have not already been given over to a reprobate mind you will see what I am saying about everything. If you are one of God's elect you cannot be fooled by the lies of satan. From this day forward your life will never be the same. Your doubts of God will perish and the spirit will reveal the truths hidden among all the lies. There will be many who will be elected by God but there are also many who will perish. I don't need to go any further because only God knows how many will be saved.
Revelation 7:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
The veil has been lifted, the answers are there, they are in the Bible, they are all around you. You can see it for yourself it is all there. May all who read this warning see the truth. Satan will mock me just as he did Jesus and his mockery will be a sign to all those who witness it. God will reveal these things to those who truly love him, share the truth with those you love so that their blood is not on your hands come judgement day. I have shared with you this thing so that every man and woman whom reads this can be saved... and the blood will not be on their head, nor will it be on my hand.
God will not delay his coming much longer, repent and sin no more and follow God in his laws or face judgement and destruction.
Or ...here is a novel idea - we could "repent" and believe the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in His righteousness that He gives us as a gift by grace through faith in His completed work on the cross and resurrection. His life in us can than shine forth in "deeds of His righteousness".
We can try to live from our own righteousness ( as Ezekiel 33:13 talks about ) or receive the gift of God's righteousness and let the fruit of His life manifest in and through us to others.
Mark 1:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
In Him we have redemption - the forgiveness of sins.
Ephesians 1:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace .
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
We can try to live from our own righteousness ( as Ezekiel 33:13 talks about ) or receive the gift of God's righteousness and let the fruit of His life manifest in and through us to others.
Mark 1:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
In Him we have redemption - the forgiveness of sins.
Ephesians 1:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace .
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
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I am not sure whether you are agreeing with me or trying to argue. Nobody can attain righteousness without Jesus. I am saying you cannot attain righteousness in or through Jesus and still sin. It's a contradictory statement to say that you can sin and be saved or you can have righteousness through Jesus and still sin. I'm not saying that you will never ever sin again either, but if you sin, and you will know when you sin, repent immediately and turn to Jesus because any moment here it could all come crashing down and there will be a time when its too late. God knows the heart of men and will judge them fairly.
The warnings are there, it is the pride and foolishness of man that choose to ignore all of it and say there is no God. Satan is also full of pride and foolishness because he is claiming to be God and the world is buying into it. Satan has his world, his creation, his followers. and its all gonna disappear one day not too far away.
The devils own demons despise him as their ruler and expose him at every chance they get. Take a look, it's all out there in plain view. As people start to see these things the devil sees it and he is tormenting the demons that have betrayed him, but it doesn't matter. The demons know they will be destroyed with the devil. It is all written and God is using the devils own creation and followers to expose his lies.
The warnings are there, it is the pride and foolishness of man that choose to ignore all of it and say there is no God. Satan is also full of pride and foolishness because he is claiming to be God and the world is buying into it. Satan has his world, his creation, his followers. and its all gonna disappear one day not too far away.
The devils own demons despise him as their ruler and expose him at every chance they get. Take a look, it's all out there in plain view. As people start to see these things the devil sees it and he is tormenting the demons that have betrayed him, but it doesn't matter. The demons know they will be destroyed with the devil. It is all written and God is using the devils own creation and followers to expose his lies.
We have to keep 2 aspects in mind when interpreting scriptures on salvation.
Works-based believers see the warning scriptures and "interpret" those to mean that one loses salvation as in going to be with the Lord for eternity. ( and we should be admonished to listen to these warning scriptures )
This type of mindset does not know the love and grace of God for people and thus they develop a fear based religion of works "to keep one saved".
1 John 4:18-19 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] We love, because He first loved us.
Salvation manifests itself here in this earth and also for going to be with the Lord because we are in Christ - sealed by the Holy Spirit when we believed as Paul said in Eph. 1:13 ; 4:30.
Start shooting heroin in your arms today and you will NOT experience salvation - that is life and wholeness on this earth for very long.
Confuse the 2 and we will come up with all kinds of works-based salvationists views - like we lose our righteousness. We don't have our "own" righteousness. Christ Himself is our righteousness.
I believe we have to differentiate between "going to heaven to be with the Lord " salvation and - "being saved from the things that can destroy us here while being on this earth."
There are different manifestations of salvation in Christ - one is going to be with the Lord - the other is concerning the things of this life on earth.
The promised land is a type of being in Christ now - it is not a type of heaven as there will be no giants to fight in heaven.
Moses did not get to rest in what God had already provided for the Israelites - but yet Moses is with God now.
The promised land is a type of living here on this earth by believing in the promises of God. Only Caleb and Joshua were the ones that got to experience the promises of God in the promised land because they believed in what God had said.
We can inherit now in this life some things that are of the kingdom of God because the kingdom of God is within us...however if we don't have our minds renewed to the truth in Christ ( which includes living by the Spirit within us ) - we can not experience the things of the kingdom that are available to us believers.
Scripture uses the same Greek word - " salvation, saved " = wholeness, preservation, keep safe, deliverance, make well - for both being saved from things in this life and for going to be with the Lord for eternity.
If we don't understand this difference we will continually be mis-applying scriptures that talk about "being saved here in this life from things" and "going to be with the Lord".
There is eternal salvation and there is a manifestation of salvation from temporal things while on this earth. Confuse the two and we end up with a mixed up message of self-effort for going to heaven and only the blood of Jesus does that.
Jesus is either our Savior for going to be in heaven with Him or we are our own savior by helping Him. One is by grace through faith-righteousness - the other is works-righteousness.
Let's just rely on the Holy Spirit to reveal the things of Christ to us.
We are safe in the Lord Jesus Christ and we can trust Him to do what He has He will do and has already done for us.
We have a great salvation in Him! We can trust the Lord when He said "I will never leave you nor forsake you!"
The proper teaching of the gospel of Christ and what He has already done for us will provide the "nutrients" for the new creation in Christ which has been created in righteousness and holiness to manifest His life in and through us - and yes this also shows in our behavior.
As we have received Christ our Lord - so we walk in Him - and it is all by grace through faith. Col. 2:6
His love which is in us will come forth and bear much fruit. The behavior is a "fruit of salvation" - it does not produce salvation. Only Christ Himself is our true salvation - it is "in Him".
Works-based believers see the warning scriptures and "interpret" those to mean that one loses salvation as in going to be with the Lord for eternity. ( and we should be admonished to listen to these warning scriptures )
This type of mindset does not know the love and grace of God for people and thus they develop a fear based religion of works "to keep one saved".
1 John 4:18-19 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] We love, because He first loved us.
Salvation manifests itself here in this earth and also for going to be with the Lord because we are in Christ - sealed by the Holy Spirit when we believed as Paul said in Eph. 1:13 ; 4:30.
Start shooting heroin in your arms today and you will NOT experience salvation - that is life and wholeness on this earth for very long.
Confuse the 2 and we will come up with all kinds of works-based salvationists views - like we lose our righteousness. We don't have our "own" righteousness. Christ Himself is our righteousness.
I believe we have to differentiate between "going to heaven to be with the Lord " salvation and - "being saved from the things that can destroy us here while being on this earth."
There are different manifestations of salvation in Christ - one is going to be with the Lord - the other is concerning the things of this life on earth.
The promised land is a type of being in Christ now - it is not a type of heaven as there will be no giants to fight in heaven.
Moses did not get to rest in what God had already provided for the Israelites - but yet Moses is with God now.
The promised land is a type of living here on this earth by believing in the promises of God. Only Caleb and Joshua were the ones that got to experience the promises of God in the promised land because they believed in what God had said.
We can inherit now in this life some things that are of the kingdom of God because the kingdom of God is within us...however if we don't have our minds renewed to the truth in Christ ( which includes living by the Spirit within us ) - we can not experience the things of the kingdom that are available to us believers.
Scripture uses the same Greek word - " salvation, saved " = wholeness, preservation, keep safe, deliverance, make well - for both being saved from things in this life and for going to be with the Lord for eternity.
If we don't understand this difference we will continually be mis-applying scriptures that talk about "being saved here in this life from things" and "going to be with the Lord".
There is eternal salvation and there is a manifestation of salvation from temporal things while on this earth. Confuse the two and we end up with a mixed up message of self-effort for going to heaven and only the blood of Jesus does that.
Jesus is either our Savior for going to be in heaven with Him or we are our own savior by helping Him. One is by grace through faith-righteousness - the other is works-righteousness.
Let's just rely on the Holy Spirit to reveal the things of Christ to us.
We are safe in the Lord Jesus Christ and we can trust Him to do what He has He will do and has already done for us.
We have a great salvation in Him! We can trust the Lord when He said "I will never leave you nor forsake you!"
The proper teaching of the gospel of Christ and what He has already done for us will provide the "nutrients" for the new creation in Christ which has been created in righteousness and holiness to manifest His life in and through us - and yes this also shows in our behavior.
As we have received Christ our Lord - so we walk in Him - and it is all by grace through faith. Col. 2:6
His love which is in us will come forth and bear much fruit. The behavior is a "fruit of salvation" - it does not produce salvation. Only Christ Himself is our true salvation - it is "in Him".
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Why won't you believe the 10 NT verses which warn ...
One must "practice righteousness" to be righteous (in God's eyes)!
In other words ... Living Righteously ... not sinning w/o repentance ... obeying Jesus' commands ... etc.
Answer: Because you don't care to be seen as righteous in God's eyes.
--------- Because being righteous in your own eyes is quite sufficient!
One must "practice righteousness" to be righteous (in God's eyes)!
In other words ... Living Righteously ... not sinning w/o repentance ... obeying Jesus' commands ... etc.
Answer: Because you don't care to be seen as righteous in God's eyes.
--------- Because being righteous in your own eyes is quite sufficient!
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i would say everyone obeys, saved and lost, if we love Him we will keep His commandments.
its not about earning through works, its about a balance between faith and works. James teaches if your faith is not producing works then you dont have faith. Catholics take it to far one way, Protestants take it to far the other. balance.
its not about earning through works, its about a balance between faith and works. James teaches if your faith is not producing works then you dont have faith. Catholics take it to far one way, Protestants take it to far the other. balance.
i can ask you three questions, which in all likeliness you will not answer the third.
First, when a person is SAVED is their name written in the Book of Life?
Second, Does Scriptures teach a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life?
Third, please answer. If then a person is written in the Book of Life (SAVED) is it possible for them to be blotted out of the Book of Life?
Scriptures PROVE OSAS is not the TRUTH.
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DiscipleDave
So according to your truth, that everyone is written in the Book of Life. Tell me, if an Indian is born in 1801, and according to you, is already written in the Book of Life, This Indian dies 80 years later, NEVER even knowing about Jesus Christ, therefore can't possibly reject someone they don't even know, is still written in the Book of Life? i mean you teach everyone is written in the Book of Life, and they are only blotted out if they reject Christ, right? Can't you see the error in your truth?
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DiscipleDave
And conveniently not reference the verses which teach it is not enough. Answer me this question. If i Truly believe in Jesus Christ and hate my brother, am i still SAVED? Answer?
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DiscipleDave
i can ask you three questions, which in all likeliness you will not answer the third.
First, when a person is SAVED is their name written in the Book of Life?
Second, Does Scriptures teach a person can be blotted out of the Book of Life?
Third, please answer. If then a person is written in the Book of Life (SAVED) is it possible for them to be blotted out of the Book of Life?
Scriptures PROVE OSAS is not the TRUTH.
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DiscipleDave
You are referring to the Book of the Living.
Book of Living = Records all living.
Book of Remembrance = Records all thoughts and deeds of every particular life written in the Book of Living.
Book of Life = Records all the names of those who have or will have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord.
no spirit can die, they are immortal. This is why satan, demons, and all those who freely choose to obey him, will be forever in Hell.
The spirit that is in you right now, is immortal, it can't die or be killed, it will remain forever in Heaven, or forever separated from God, one or the other. Those who Love God, will love others. Those who will be rejected by God are they that do not love others. Woe to this generation indeed, a generation of self lovers.
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DiscipleDave
I've shown you countless times already
who Jesus considers to be an overcomer!
So, this is for those who haven't seen it ...
Revelation 3:
21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
Jesus overcame sin, the Devil, the world, etc.
Do you believe Scriptures, which teach there is no temptation so strong that you can't handle it, AND with EVERY single temptation that comes upon you, GOD allows a path out of it?
1Co_10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
It is your own fault, if you believe otherwise. Woe to this wicked generation that is fit for the wrath of God to come, instead of ceasing from their sinning and Truly repenting of them (repent and cease) they make excuses for them, so as to believe they don't have to cease from them. Deceiving themselves by thinking they can continue to live in sins and still go to Heaven, blind they are. And double woe to them who teach others that it is not possible. All things are possible to them who have Jesus Christ living inside of them, ALL THINGS.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave