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[PeterJens]

This from the guy who craps on those who share their hearts and cruelly tries to use it against them. What a blind hypocritical piece of work you are.

Let me ask a small question. I you say someone craps on someone do you think they are
saying what they are sharing is nice or horrible?

And f you use the word cruel, are you suggesting someone has a good intention or an evil
one.

So in a small sentence here is demonstrated anger, hurt, retaliation, insult, and slander.

It is why discussion can become difficult, if you believe people are caring loving people
open to Gods truth and love. Because the answer is from some, obviously not.

And what do you think causes such antagonism? Suggesting God calls us to walk in love,
purity, holiness and truth. How can this create this reaction which is exactly what Paul called
Timothy to do.

Set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
1 Tim 4:12

Man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
1 Tim 6:11

Now was FNC helpful to me, showing me something I can act on, or even pointing
to something of value, good behaviour, or an example to follow?

All its contents failed, but I do appreciate a response, no matter how meant, because
it is all useful in setting the scene.

 

[PeterJens]

Ah the smell of burning wood... That is something I love about winter I love going on my walks and smelling wood burning, though something tells me I am thinking of a different kind of wood burning than you guys lol

I agree with you, burning wood from a bonfire somehow is appealing, except when
the smoke gets in you eyes. Me and my wife can spend 5 hours burning garden waste
and enjoy it, watching the flames make their patterns. It is why I like log fires,
and could spend a whole evening just looking at one.

Maybe in a strange way a fire is alive, full of energy, creating heat and light,
warming a room.

 

[Blain]

Let me ask a small question. I you say someone craps on someone do you think they are
saying what they are sharing is nice or horrible?

And f you use the word cruel, are you suggesting someone has a good intention or an evil
one.

So in a small sentence here is demonstrated anger, hurt, retaliation, insult, and slander.

It is why discussion can become difficult, if you believe people are caring loving people
open to Gods truth and love. Because the answer is from some, obviously not.

And what do you think causes such antagonism? Suggesting God calls us to walk in love,
purity, holiness and truth. How can this create this reaction which is exactly what Paul called
Timothy to do.

Set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
1 Tim 4:12

Man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
1 Tim 6:11

Now was FNC helpful to me, showing me something I can act on, or even pointing
to something of value, good behaviour, or an example to follow?

All its contents failed, but I do appreciate a response, no matter how meant, because
it is all useful in setting the scene.

What FNC said was absolutely uncalled for rude and should have not been said I was not meaning to call you out as if you were in the wrong I was merely saying you are not innocent in this in the bdf as most of us including me are not.

Regardless if I am guilty of such slander and unkindness I always consider myself guilty because we all slip up and don't always show the love we are called to be. I have to constantly search my own heart and I always have to point the finger to myself before I point it to others, but I also make it a point to show others that they also are not completely innocent in this matter not to accuse but to make one search their own hearts

 

[Blain]

I agree with you, burning wood from a bonfire somehow is appealing, except when
the smoke gets in you eyes. Me and my wife can spend 5 hours burning garden waste
and enjoy it, watching the flames make their patterns. It is why I like log fires,
and could spend a whole evening just looking at one.

Maybe in a strange way a fire is alive, full of energy, creating heat and light,
warming a room.

I have met God the father and I have met Jesus himself face to face but when I met the holy spirit in person the first time he was a fire made of rainbows far more vivid and more beautiful than any colors you will ever see in this life. Upon touching this fire I was filled with life beyond belief it was as if I had taken my first breath for the first time in my entire life and I could feel his soothing healing all over my body and soul even though I was not really healed I could feel the healing and the life and power in this flame of his.

Fire has always even before I met him in this manner been associated with me in my faith and I think there is a reason for that

 

[blue_ladybug]

I remember when your user name used to be FireHeart..

I have met God the father and I have met Jesus himself face to face but when I met the holy spirit in person the first time he was a fire made of rainbows far more vivid and more beautiful than any colors you will ever see in this life. Upon touching this fire I was filled with life beyond belief it was as if I had taken my first breath for the first time in my entire life and I could feel his soothing healing all over my body and soul even though I was not really healed I could feel the healing and the life and power in this flame of his.

Fire has always even before I met him in this manner been associated with me in my faith and I think there is a reason for that

 

[PeterJens]

I can't say you are innocent in this there have been times when I have seen you do this as well but since it was not a debate I was interested in getting mixed up in I didn't say anything. Sometimes people do call on you for the things you ask them about but you deflect it

There is always communication breakdown.
I realise some issues will never resolve and some questions are best not answered.

A classic is about sin. Do you sin? This is always in the general and not the specific.
The Lord convicts us of sin, and it breaks our hearts. But people want an answer which
is actually sin itself. We cannot say we do not sin, because that is Gods call.

We can say our consciences do not convict of continuing sin, and we have dealt with all
known issues. We can say we walk in holiness, and purity, clean before the Lord.

But these words for some is like dynamite. Though scripture says His holy people walk like
this, yet it must be a lie, because they know all the sins they feel and commit each day.

It does not occur to them that perhaps peoples experiences are different and their view of the
faith is different from others. No their response is open warfare. It is like walking righteously
has to be a lie. Does that not strike you as odd, as Paul claims this for himself?

So real antagonism and guilt is below the surface, just like Christian standing for morality is
saying the world is full of sinners and they hate this.

 

[Blain]

There is always communication breakdown.
I realise some issues will never resolve and some questions are best not answered.

A classic is about sin. Do you sin? This is always in the general and not the specific.
The Lord convicts us of sin, and it breaks our hearts. But people want an answer which
is actually sin itself. We cannot say we do not sin, because that is Gods call.

We can say our consciences do not convict of continuing sin, and we have dealt with all
known issues. We can say we walk in holiness, and purity, clean before the Lord.

But these words for some is like dynamite. Though scripture says His holy people walk like
this, yet it must be a lie, because they know all the sins they feel and commit each day.

It does not occur to them that perhaps peoples experiences are different and their view of the
faith is different from others. No their response is open warfare. It is like walking righteously
has to be a lie. Does that not strike you as odd, as Paul claims this for himself?

So real antagonism and guilt is below the surface, just like Christian standing for morality is
saying the world is full of sinners and they hate this.

Sadly there are trigger words and subjects that just flare up war simply by being spoken of and no one takes into account that these things are only sensitive subjects because of our own selves, if we lack the maturity to debate and discuss the things of God then we should not be debating but no one pays heed to these warnings of mine instead they continue to debate and bash and clash against each other.

We really are like children in far more ways than we realize

 

[PeterJens]

What FNC said was absolutely uncalled for rude and should have not been said I was not meaning to call you out as if you were in the wrong I was merely saying you are not innocent in this in the bdf as most of us including me are not.

Regardless if I am guilty of such slander and unkindness I always consider myself guilty because we all slip up and don't always show the love we are called to be. I have to constantly search my own heart and I always have to point the finger to myself before I point it to others, but I also make it a point to show others that they also are not completely innocent in this matter not to accuse but to make one search their own hearts

Blain - I may have strayed over the edge. It has been hard to say, because for over a year
I have just shared and played things as fair as I can. I have tried to understand the extreme
things I am accused of, and come up blank.

I was once advising someone to go to their partner and talk things through, and was told this
was advising the person to go to their death, and it would be on my head if this happened.

We suspected in the end this was a troll playing games, but I found the guilt trip interesting.
The thing about advice, is it is always framed within a context, and some will work, and some
will go wrong. It comes down to the person taking advice not the advice giver. I always believe
some advice is better than none, unless you know nothing and cannot help at all.

What is great though, is we grow in His grace and we all make mistakes. Forgiveness and love
is how we learn, turning the other cheek and not resisting the evil person. I have understood this
more from being on cc, and cc is pretty tame. Counselling mentally disturbed people, suicidals
etc is a much more dangerous place, because get it wrong and people die.

 

[PeterJens]

We really are like children in far more ways than we realize

Lol. I am not sure we ever really grow up in one sense or should we.
Love is about adventure, exploration and delight in finding a good result.

My experience of Christ is more about appropriateness, than mature or
childish behaviour.

So I think cc is what it is, it is a reflection of people and where they are.
My desire is to progress to something more in Christ despite this.

 

[Blain]

Blain - I may have strayed over the edge. It has been hard to say, because for over a year
I have just shared and played things as fair as I can. I have tried to understand the extreme
things I am accused of, and come up blank.

I was once advising someone to go to their partner and talk things through, and was told this
was advising the person to go to their death, and it would be on my head if this happened.

We suspected in the end this was a troll playing games, but I found the guilt trip interesting.
The thing about advice, is it is always framed within a context, and some will work, and some
will go wrong. It comes down to the person taking advice not the advice giver. I always believe
some advice is better than none, unless you know nothing and cannot help at all.

What is great though, is we grow in His grace and we all make mistakes. Forgiveness and love
is how we learn, turning the other cheek and not resisting the evil person. I have understood this
more from being on cc, and cc is pretty tame. Counselling mentally disturbed people, suicidals
etc is a much more dangerous place, because get it wrong and people die.

You like many others have been accused of horrible things but that doesn't mean it's true, I have been accused of being a false prophet I was said to be leading his sheep into the pits of hell I have been condemned to hell many times on here I have been called many terrible things and have been falsely accused of many things I mean one halloween Blue and I were called demonic because we eat candy on halloween and of course since I love to mess with blue every halloween I remind of her that lol. The thing is such things will always happen and sometimes it make us even feel or think it's true but often times it's not.

I have tried to help people who are severely depressed and suicidal and yes it is in fact a dangerous area but sometimes there really is not anything we can say or any advice to give that will change them because like you said it really matters about the person receiving some people just don't want to listen. I actually used to when I first joined here not listen to any advice given to me I would bark back attack and basically be everything I often times preach not to be as a Christian I was easily offended and triggered as well. But in time God used the bdf to mold me into who I am now and he used many people to do this even the ones who meant harm to me.

I have many teachers and most of them even in their attacks or even in their simple discussions with each other don't even realize they are teaching me. I am always watching

 

[PeterJens]

God used the bdf to mold me

Brother, I wish I could hug you.

I say this because so many take the situation they are in as a negative, rather
than the refiners fire. Praise the Lord for showing us our weaknesses and
helping us to grow through the pain into much greater things in His name.

 

[Persuaded]

Just thought I would check back in to see if the Mods had responded to my request.

As you can see this tread has been hijacked and used as a platform for some to post their own beliefs not relative to the question I asked.
Don't mind the general comments and joking, but when some began to preach their doctrine, well, that upsets me.
It is not about me. I am not easily offended. You are welcomed to say what you wish about me.
BUT, I can not be a part of offering a platform for some who seem to go to every thread and preach the same thing over and over again knowing it will bring discourse.

 

[JosephsDreams]

I have not been on any other chat boards except one related to a hobby. I think the mods here are generally fair and do a good job.
My only real grip is that they do not return emails, which I don't mind saying that to me is the height of rudeness.

 

[PeterJens]

I have not been on any other chat boards except one related to a hobby. I think the mods here are generally fair and do a good job.
My only real grip is that they do not return emails, which I don't mind saying that to me is the height of rudeness.

It could be that they are actually overwhelmed.
Some report the most silly posts, claim x should have everything taken off them etc.

So if you had 100 emails, 1 hour to devote to this site, what would you do?

Sometime it can take me 20 minutes to respond to one issue in a balanced way.
So this site can literally take your life away.

 

[Blain]

Just thought I would check back in to see if the Mods had responded to my request.

As you can see this tread has been hijacked and used as a platform for some to post their own beliefs not relative to the question I asked.
Don't mind the general comments and joking, but when some began to preach their doctrine, well, that upsets me.
It is not about me. I am not easily offended. You are welcomed to say what you wish about me.
BUT, I can not be a part of offering a platform for some who seem to go to every thread and preach the same thing over and over again knowing it will bring discourse.

My question is why do you need your account deleted? Can you not just stop coming? Not that I want you too leave it's just sort of illogical to me but then again everyone has their owns reasons i suppose

 

[GODisLOVE7]

Brother, I wish I could hug you.

I say this because so many take the situation they are in as a negative, rather
than the refiners fire. Praise the Lord for showing us our weaknesses and
helping us to grow through the pain into much greater things in His name.

Beautifully said, PeterJens!

 

[Blain]

people really do report others for dumbest things. ( random user) I believe this and I think this is what the scriptures mean ( another random user) I don't agree,reported. ( mods) ...............

 

[popeye]

After 11 months here, I realized that the BDF has serious issues.
Often threads are started that are hijacked by folks who want to teach their doctrine.
They use someone else's thread as a platform to push their personal beliefs.
If that happens to a thread I start, I should have the option to close that thread or at least ask a mod to close it in a reasonable time frame.
I enjoy Bible discussion, that is why I joined, but there is very little on the BDF. It is mostly opinions and assumptions and when you disagree it becomes personal attacks and even questioning the intellect of others.
This may be a harsh statement, but in my opinion, the BDS is a joke and should be eliminated.
There is nothing here for me. It is a waste of my time. It is very depressing.
So yes, I'm gone.

I clicked on your latest posts and apparently you got into a battle over end times events/dynamics.

Nothing new about that,it has always been a passionate subject.

Back off the subject,and find someone hurting in the prayer or family forums,help some captives out of bondage,restore your joy ,and see how a bad situation propels you into a glorious realm of victory.

 

[popeye]

My question is why do you need your account deleted? Can you not just stop coming? Not that I want you too leave it's just sort of illogical to me but then again everyone has their owns reasons i suppose

Because he is upset.
We have all been there.

One needs a plan when that inevitable event comes knocking

 

[Blain]

Because he is upset.
We have all been there.

One needs a plan when that inevitable event comes knocking

So maybe by deleting your account you won't be as tempted to return?