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BrokenSparrow

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But you don't have a choice if one of the choices is terrible pain. Who would pick terrible pain over wonderful bliss? Can you not see how these two choices are a set up.
I see it clearly, just don't see how others don't...I mean looks like and easy choice to me.
 

BrokenSparrow

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Trolls like to eat children, so I'd say you're safe.
You calling me old?

That's alright though because you know what that means, right...I'm too old of a cat to get scratched by a kitten:p
 
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I see it clearly, just don't see how others don't...I mean looks like and easy choice to me.
Arhhh. There is no choice, because one of them is impossible to choose freely. Let me put it this way, can you choose to go to hell?
 

zone

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Arhhh. There is no choice, because one of them is impossible to choose freely. Let me put it this way, can you choose to go to hell?
what do you think happens when you die?
 
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Can true love allow anyone to suffer in hell?
True love for me destroys chaff in the lake of fire because there is nothing else that can
be done.

Love only works when it is alive in the heart of man. Without this being alive, people
are disfunctional imaginations, living from one illusion to another, blown by the wind of
fashion and social pressure. All the unresolved internal conflicts will rip them apart to
leave a heap on the floor.

In this world we have a chance to found ourselves in the author of life.
Without this we are dead, with a grasp of life, but it fades as we get older and
further away from the King.

Torture in the lake of fire is only for satan, the beast and his prophet.

Righteousness is not brutal, it is pure without a stain or wrinkle, love and support
flowing out to those who will listen.

When all is cleaned only the pure will remain.
 
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Christ and the cross is Gods love demonstrated to the world.

If love dwells within you it will echo with God and His son.
 

Adstar

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Yes, yes! It's true. Oh you know me too well. No, well it's theory.
I said"""Maybe"" Paradox Maybe means maybe.. I chose my words carefully.. I do not know you well..... God does though..
 
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True love for me destroys chaff in the lake of fire because there is nothing else that can
be done.

Love only works when it is alive in the heart of man. Without this being alive, people
are disfunctional imaginations, living from one illusion to another, blown by the wind of
fashion and social pressure. All the unresolved internal conflicts will rip them apart to
leave a heap on the floor.

In this world we have a chance to found ourselves in the author of life.
Without this we are dead, with a grasp of life, but it fades as we get older and
further away from the King.

Torture in the lake of fire is only for satan, the beast and his prophet.

Righteousness is not brutal, it is pure without a stain or wrinkle, love and support
flowing out to those who will listen.

When all is cleaned only the pure will remain.
It's not a choice about loving God is it, it's a choice to stay out of harm's way. I mean can you really love someone who'll punish you if you don't.

That's how it looks to me, I can't choose to love God while hell exists

DO YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND.

Sheeesh...
 

BrokenSparrow

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It's not a choice about loving God is it, it's a choice to stay out of harm's way. I mean can you really love someone who'll punish you if you don't.

That's how it looks to me, I can't choose to love God while hell exists

DO YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND.

Sheeesh...
It is a choice to accept God's love. He's not asking you to do anything bad. He is giving you a choice to live a good loving life here on earth and in the world to come.

I just can't see what the problem with that is.
 

Adstar

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Do you think eternal damnation is a fair consequence.
Do you think Eternal life in a perfect existence is a fair for those who are granted it by God???

See i have heard a lot of people protesting about the eternal lake of fire but i don't here them protesting the eternal life in a perfect paradise...

The choice is believe and trust Jesus or reject Jesus.. The choice has very dramatic outcomes.. But in the end it's all about the message of Jesus and people either love His Word or the Hate His word. They either think it is wisdom or foolishness.. No reward can make a person believe and trust Jesus and no punishment can make a person believe and trust in Jesus.. Look at yourself for your own example.. You know about The Lake of fire when you once accepted Jesus right??? Did the knowledge of the Lake of fire stop you from rejecting Jesus? Did the knowledge of eternal life with Jesus in His perfect existence cause you to remain? Nope..

So why do people who where once religious suddenly try to use paradise or hell in arguments as if it is something that forces Christians to believe when they have demonstrated by their very lives and decisions that these things do no such thing...
 
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It's not a choice about loving God is it, it's a choice to stay out of harm's way. I mean can you really love someone who'll punish you if you don't.

That's how it looks to me, I can't choose to love God while hell exists

DO YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND.

Sheeesh...
I see it from your perspective.
God is saying something different to you.

He is saying your path destroys you and will finally kill you.
But God is offering you cleansing, eternal life and true freedom.

But the conditions are you open up your heart to Him and repent of your sinful ways
and desires. It is these that will destroy you, as you make do and fight to keep that
which you currently have.

The lake of fire is testimony to the effects of sin and how it will eliminated from creation.
Which side of this judgement do you want to be on?
The way of love and life, or the way of rebellion and destruction?

Christ and the cross was Gods way of saying as a friend, equal with man, He is the only
way out of this paradox and internal conflict between our hopes and love and painful
failure and slavery to sin.
 
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It's not a choice about loving God is it, it's a choice to stay out of harm's way. I mean can you really love someone who'll punish you if you don't.

That's how it looks to me, I can't choose to love God while hell exists

DO YOU FINALLY UNDERSTAND.

Sheeesh...
If you have met some truly evil people you would want something
worse to happen to people than destruction.

Eternal torture was created out of bitterness towards those insane
who torture and do unspeakable things to the living out of the evil
that dwells within them

But God knows their evil is worthless, justice will be served by destroying
those who commited such things, will be no more, ever.
 
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If you have met some truly evil people you would want something
worse to happen to people than destruction.

Eternal torture was created out of bitterness towards those insane
who torture and do unspeakable things to the living out of the evil
that dwells within them

But God knows their evil is worthless, justice will be served by destroying
those who commited such things, will be no more, ever.
Those evil.....dastard's