Please Vote for the Book You Want to Read

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Which book would you most like to read and discuss?

  • 1984 by George Orwell

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Giver by Lois Lowry

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • L'Mort D'Arthur - by Thomas Malory

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • The Odyssey by Homer

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Strong Poison by Dorothy Sayers

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
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We should force him to read every Austen novel and confess to the beauty of her cannon of work, and to recant his idiotic comparisons.
Lol oh but you voted for L'Mort D'Arthur, and now you can't take it back. Though I will say that by that vote you ladies and OwzK do prove you got some good taste after all.

Though never one to resist a joke that so obviously leaves itself open, I have to wonder if your fantasies of dominating and torturing me makes me wonder if you have been reading that Shades of Gray novel after all. I do opine though I might rather have a rat cage tied to my face than read 1984 again.
 
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She was annoying, so no, not my favourite character by a long shot. You gloss over the very valid criticism. I can understand why you would not want to deal with it. Your choice, after all.
Lol not too sure what you are meaning quite honestly, but by all means, critique away.
 
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I find it funny too that you see no difference between music that is known for calling
women *****es and hos and music that uplifts Jesus Christ as the hope of the world
and the One worthy of our praise and worship. To say your conflations are inexplicably
peculiar would be an understatement. Telling us that P&P is comparable to trashy smut
really is inexcusable. Your inability to separate the gutter from the idealism of seeking
all that is good and true in order to live in that goodness is disturbing and perplexing.

Plus you kept trying to stick on my daughter and me some attachment to smut that
does not belong to either of us, as if you could not leave the idea alone, harping on it
over and over again. Your motivation for doing so I cannot know. You think I would be
surprised at your idea of love? I don't think you know it yourself.
Lol I think you're reading into things that aren't there. As for rap music I promised I wouldn't get dragged back into that one. Though one note, the most popular Christian musician at the moment is Kanye West, and the competition is not even close.
 
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Galatea

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Lol oh but you voted for L'Mort D'Arthur, and now you can't take it back. Though I will say that by that vote you ladies and OwzK do prove you got some good taste after all.

Though never one to resist a joke that so obviously leaves itself open, I have to wonder if your fantasies of dominating and torturing me makes me wonder if you have been reading that Shades of Gray novel after all. I do opine though I might rather have a rat cage tied to my face than read 1984 again.
If you are not going to be a gentleman, I don't know if I can speak to you any more. Have some class, think about those knights, or better yet, read Pride and Prejudice and learn some manners from Mr. Darcy.
 

Magenta

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Lol I think you're reading into things that aren't there. As for rap music I promised I wouldn't get dragged back into that one. Though one note, the most popular Christian musician at the moment is Kanye West, and the competition is not even close.
How can you say I am reading into something that is not there? You made implication after implication and outright statements about how that stupid book got into my hands and my daughter's hands as well, when she has no interest at all in it, it was given to her, she detests such things, but to you, you can imagine how and why she had it, and how and why it came to be in my hands, older women and erotica and all, your statements were repeatedly offensive, were you trying to test me? Your opinion of women throws all in the muck, why? I am sorry if you have been poorly treated by the opposite sex, but that is no excuse to lay on me or my daughter the things that you did simply because I had read a few chapters of a book that some friend of hers had given her.
 
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Lol i will read whatever book is voted on if I can get a copy of it..., so are we gonna do a chapter a week?
 

Magenta

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Lol i will read whatever book is voted on if I can get a copy of it..., so are we gonna do a chapter a week?
Oh dear, a chapter a week? I can hardly stop laughing. I was removed from my grade twelve English class because the teacher would assign a chapter to be read overnight, and I would return the next day and have read the whole book :D She put me on independent studies :) But I will try to stay with whatever pace is decided upon by the group :D
 
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If you are not going to be a gentleman, I don't know if I can speak to you any more. Have some class, think about those knights, or better yet, read Pride and Prejudice and learn some manners from Mr. Darcy.
Lol I'm pretty sure those gents and knights might have looked nice and mannerly on the outside but when one reads their tales they find quite the opposite.

If I may make a defense of myself from Tolkien:

"All that is gold does not glitter"
 
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How can you say I am reading into something that is not there? You made implication after implication and outright statements about how that stupid book got into my hands and my daughter's hands as well, when she has no interest at all in it, it was given to her, she detests such things, but to you, you can imagine how and why she had it, and how and why it came to be in my hands, older women and erotica and all, your statements were repeatedly offensive, were you trying to test me? Your opinion of women throws all in the muck, why? I am sorry if you have been poorly treated by the opposite sex, but that is no excuse to lay on me or my daughter the things that you did simply because I had read a few chapters of a book that some friend of hers had given her.
Lol yes, I am implying you are a middle aged woman indeed. Am I wrong?
 

Magenta

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Lol yes, I am implying you are a middle aged woman indeed. Am I wrong?
You think I am going to live to one hundred and twenty? Again you sidestep the issue. It wasn't about my age but about what I read. My age could have been any number, you proved that by including my daughter in your slurs against women.
 
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Galatea

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Lol i will read whatever book is voted on if I can get a copy of it..., so are we gonna do a chapter a week?
I was thinking a chapter a week, since people are busy with work and other things. It depends on the book. If the chapters are short or something, maybe more than one. If they are long, maybe just one. It looks like it might be 1984, I'll post a link to it tonight after the poll closes. :)

Did your surgery go okay?
 
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You think I am going to live to one hundred and twenty? Again you sidestep the issue. It wasn't about my age but about what I read. My age could have been any number, you proved that by including my daughter in your slurs against women.
Hey you might live to that old, who knows?

Pretty sure you're the one that brought up your daughter and her reading habits. Didn't even know you had one or what she has read until you mentioned it.

Lol is it a slur now to observe that pretty generally the audience for such books are women?
 

Magenta

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Lol I'm pretty sure those gents and knights might have looked nice and mannerly on the outside but when one reads their tales they find quite the opposite.

If I may make a defense of myself from Tolkien:

"All that is gold does not glitter"
Makes me think of Led Zep. It is true men are beasts. But that is not all they are. You seem to want to reduce everything to its lowest common denominator and say therefore there really is nothing higher, no greater thing within us to strive toward, to make a greater aspect of our being, to live for, that there is no real goodness in humanity. Do not make the mistake of thinking I believe mankind to be good. No, for even Jesus refused being called good. Only God is good. But we can still evince goodness, and seek after it, and recognize it when we find it, and embrace it, and love it as something better than the common baseness that otherwise would drag us all down to having nothing better to live for. The artist, the poet, the musician, are they but hopeless dreamers in your eyes? Is there nothing good in anyone, in your view?
 
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Makes me think of Led Zep. It is true men are beasts. But that is not all they are. You seem to want to reduce everything to its lowest common denominator and say therefore there really is nothing higher, no greater thing within us to strive toward, to make a greater aspect of our being, to live for, that there is no real goodness in humanity. Do not make the mistake of thinking I believe mankind to be good. No, for even Jesus refused being called good. Only God is good. But we can still evince goodness, and seek after it, and recognize it when we find it, and embrace it, and love it as something better than the common baseness that otherwise would drag us all down to having nothing better to live for. The artist, the poet, the musician, are they but hopeless dreamers in your eyes? Is there nothing good in anyone, in your view?
Lol there you go reading into things that I have not said again lol. Lol I like the Led Zep reference though, kinda surprised you would like them considering Jimmy Page's famous former house.

To answer your questions in order:

1. The true ones are indeed, though not hopeless, I'd say moreso hopeful dreamers. The fake ones are just in it for money and/or fame of men, and it does show. Truly, they have their reward all ready.

2. Makes me think of this parable from the Holy Book of Books.

Luke 18:9-14

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 
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Magenta

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Hey you might live to that old, who knows?

Pretty sure you're the one that brought up your daughter and her reading habits. Didn't even know you had one or what she has read until you mentioned it.

Lol is it a slur now to observe that pretty generally the audience for such books are women?
Yeah, I told you she was not interested in it, and you went on and on about it as if she had bought it herself or as if I had gone out of my way to get my hands on it, when neither was true. Even when I said yes, the audience of books is readers, you made another slur against women. If you are just going to deny your attitude and the things you said there is no point in talking to you.

Lol well I can guess how your hands came to possess Gray lol, the audience is the reader indeed, the female readers for those smutty romance novels.
You did not guess at all and you continually heaped your scornful innuendo upon me and my daughter and now you pretend you did not. This conversation is over.
 
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Oh dear, a chapter a week? I can hardly stop laughing. I was removed from my grade twelve English class because the teacher would assign a chapter to be read overnight, and I would return the next day and have read the whole book :D She put me on independent studies :) But I will try to stay with whatever pace is decided upon by the group :D
I just reread the chapter and limit myself to discussing that chapter...just found that pace allowed all to discuss the book more fully.
 
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I was thinking a chapter a week, since people are busy with work and other things. It depends on the book. If the chapters are short or something, maybe more than one. If they are long, maybe just one. It looks like it might be 1984, I'll post a link to it tonight after the poll closes. :)

Did your surgery go okay?
Guess so...headache, too much pressure in eye. Dr said to not pick up anything over 10 pounds and no laundry, mopping etc.

Blah

My husband wants to get me a pirate eye patch. Lol.
 
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Yeah, I told you she was not interested in it, and you went on and on about it as if she had bought it herself or as if I had gone out of my way to get my hands on it, when neither was true. Even when I said yes, the audience of books is readers, you made another slur against women. If you are just going to deny your attitude and the things you said there is no point in talking to you.

You did not guess at all and you continually heaped your scornful innuendo upon me and my daughter and now you pretend you did not. This conversation is over.
Lol I'm frankly just responding to your insistence to keep talking about the book. I have not said I like or dislike Fifty Shades of Gray, for I have never read it. I just observe the audience that has.

Lol I think you're just reading things that aren't there. No scorn, innuendo, or slurs which you can declare.
 
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Guess so...headache, too much pressure in eye. Dr said to not pick up anything over 10 pounds and no laundry, mopping etc.

Blah

My husband wants to get me a pirate eye patch. Lol.
I'm glad you're okay. At least you get a forced vacation from housework for a while. :) I have a pirate patch that I used when I dressed up as a pirate a few years ago at school. I'd lend it to you if we lived close by each other. I hope the headache and pressure ease up.
 

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I was thinking more like a couple pages a week... :rolleyes: