*****5 Wise Virgins---------------------------------*****5 Foolish Virgins
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Consider the context and the audience for this parable. It is part of the greater Olivet discourse on the end times and the coming of Christ to rule on the earth. The kingdom of heaven is and is coming.
The potential bride of Christ went out to meet Him. Not all were prepared so they came up short. Their preparation was faulty in that they took lamps but no oil to burn in the lamps. This parable is being taught to Israel who were very religious but very lost. Later we see Christ judging the nations with the goats on one side and the sheep on the other. In every case we see the need to have a correct knowledge of Christ.
Scripture often repeats itself that we might get the message.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The potential bride of Christ went out to meet Him. Not all were prepared so they came up short. Their preparation was faulty in that they took lamps but no oil to burn in the lamps. This parable is being taught to Israel who were very religious but very lost. Later we see Christ judging the nations with the goats on one side and the sheep on the other. In every case we see the need to have a correct knowledge of Christ.
Scripture often repeats itself that we might get the message.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
but they did not seek to enter into the wedding. They did not believe He was the bridegroom 
What have I learned from this thread????-----there has always been wise and foolish people in the Church-----some think they know it all and some are seeking the truth----some are getting prepared and staying prepared-----some are not prepared and are walking in deception (deception is one of the most talked about aspect of the End Times in Jesus' teaching ---"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you." (Matthew 24:4) "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." (Matthew 24:11) "...if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24) "But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;..." (Matthew 24:48)***KEY IS BE PREPARED---WATCH...
Hi popeye,
Not so, the virgins were described in the bible as wise and foolish. It’s not me either who disallowed the 5 foolish virgins to the marriage chamber, the scriptures of truth says, the 5 foolish called but were not heard and even the door was shut for them. Though, they have lamps yet they have no oil in their vessels. And because these were so foolish, the bridegroom did not even know them. If all were saved then they have been known by the bridegroom. The bridegroom may represent God or our Lord Jesus and we know it that God knows His own. Yet, in the dispensational approach, the 10 virgins are in reference to the nation of Israel as someone says here, possibly in the coming future tribulation. But the parable may somehow be applied to us Gentile relating to our preparation in regards to salvation. The vessel may also represent the heart, either one has the heart of unbelief (foolish virgins) or heart establish with grace (wise virgins). All may have prepared well according to his own yet only the wise virgins (saved) prepared well to the coming of the bridegroom. So, the kingdom seekers each prepared, the wise (saved) in the Bible way, the foolish also prepared in a wrong way, not knowing their preparation lacks one thing, they have no oil.
Do both the wise and foolish virgins have oil in their lamp?
The Bible answer is NO. Both have none!
What the Bible says the wise took oil with their vessels with their lamp. The foolish, had their lamp only or no oil in their vessel. This is because while the 10 were ‘setting order’ their lamps that the foolish have to ask the wise virgins to give oil for them to light up their lamps since it was then in the midnight. The Bible says their lamps are gone out.
God bless
Not so, the virgins were described in the bible as wise and foolish. It’s not me either who disallowed the 5 foolish virgins to the marriage chamber, the scriptures of truth says, the 5 foolish called but were not heard and even the door was shut for them. Though, they have lamps yet they have no oil in their vessels. And because these were so foolish, the bridegroom did not even know them. If all were saved then they have been known by the bridegroom. The bridegroom may represent God or our Lord Jesus and we know it that God knows His own. Yet, in the dispensational approach, the 10 virgins are in reference to the nation of Israel as someone says here, possibly in the coming future tribulation. But the parable may somehow be applied to us Gentile relating to our preparation in regards to salvation. The vessel may also represent the heart, either one has the heart of unbelief (foolish virgins) or heart establish with grace (wise virgins). All may have prepared well according to his own yet only the wise virgins (saved) prepared well to the coming of the bridegroom. So, the kingdom seekers each prepared, the wise (saved) in the Bible way, the foolish also prepared in a wrong way, not knowing their preparation lacks one thing, they have no oil.
Do both the wise and foolish virgins have oil in their lamp?
The Bible answer is NO. Both have none!
What the Bible says the wise took oil with their vessels with their lamp. The foolish, had their lamp only or no oil in their vessel. This is because while the 10 were ‘setting order’ their lamps that the foolish have to ask the wise virgins to give oil for them to light up their lamps since it was then in the midnight. The Bible says their lamps are gone out.
God bless
S
Yes
I did quite a bit of research on this due to the odd interpretations and the concensus is that it is about being prepared. and NOT about salvation
Seriously, Jesus says that Himself at the end of the parable so I don't know how it can be otherwise interpreted?
The context, is a preparation by way of a typical Jewish wedding (at the time). They occured at night apparently, and everyone had lamps with oil IN them. The text clearly states that all 10 had oil in their lamps and only 5 brought EXTRA oil
As you say, deception is the miserable disease of this current church age
There is just no other way to put it with some, no doubt, finding it offensive to actually say so
OK, everyone has a twist so I might as well have one to. Matt 25:10 and the DOOR was shut. Jesus used that expression at least one other time, the opportunity to be saved...WAS GONE. Saved people have a relationship with Jesus Christ, the five foolish virgins NEVER had that. They had the possibility of having a relationship with the Lord but they never had that relationship, so it was right for the groom to say, I do not know you.
**** just think about it---- there have been many people saved in the last 40 years of my journey---- some failed to bring enough oil---- they are already living worldly lives devoid of Christ---- we must wake up--- we have security in our salvation---- but it is in Jesus Christ not in a past experience...
Let's look at the parable from the beginning.
Matthew 25:1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Not sure how verse 1 can be attributed to the unsaved at all.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.[SUP]3 [/SUP]They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:[SUP]4 [/SUP]But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Now one can say that the foolish are those that believed they have no oil for their lamps when they went out to meet the Bridegroom, because they believe they need a continual filling of that oil, thus they did not have the oil by faith.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.[SUP]6 [/SUP]And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.[SUP]9 [/SUP]But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Now here are the foolish virgins waiting for the Bridegroom and nonbelievers would not be waiting for Him like that.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Virgins waiting to be received to the marriage and thus the marriage supper suggests saved believers abiding in Him knowing they are filled and ready to go always whereas the foolish ones are saved believers but denied Him as in them and thus not having faith for that oil being in them for why they are out at the market when the Bridegroom had come.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.[SUP]12 [/SUP]But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Believers forget that works of iniquity that denies Him ( Titus 1:15-16 ), they will be denied; 2 Timothy 2:12 But even if they had their faith overthrown or they do not believe in Him any more, He still abides in them ( 2 Timothy 2:13 ) which was why they were still called virgins even though they were the foolish ones.
The elect are the prudent ones that are ready to go as filled believers whereas, the saved but yet denying themselves as always filled believers since they were saved are out at the market seeking to be filled when the Bridegroom had come.
If your only proof that they were unsaved believers because Jesus knew them not; then explain 2 Timothy 2:12-13 where Jesus still abides even in those that deny Him. ( Course, they are still denied, but that is what they get for not being ready to go when they are out to the market seeking to be filled with that oil where there is no end to be ready by.
Matthew 25:1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Not sure how verse 1 can be attributed to the unsaved at all.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.[SUP]3 [/SUP]They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:[SUP]4 [/SUP]But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Now one can say that the foolish are those that believed they have no oil for their lamps when they went out to meet the Bridegroom, because they believe they need a continual filling of that oil, thus they did not have the oil by faith.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.[SUP]6 [/SUP]And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.[SUP]9 [/SUP]But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Now here are the foolish virgins waiting for the Bridegroom and nonbelievers would not be waiting for Him like that.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Virgins waiting to be received to the marriage and thus the marriage supper suggests saved believers abiding in Him knowing they are filled and ready to go always whereas the foolish ones are saved believers but denied Him as in them and thus not having faith for that oil being in them for why they are out at the market when the Bridegroom had come.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.[SUP]12 [/SUP]But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Believers forget that works of iniquity that denies Him ( Titus 1:15-16 ), they will be denied; 2 Timothy 2:12 But even if they had their faith overthrown or they do not believe in Him any more, He still abides in them ( 2 Timothy 2:13 ) which was why they were still called virgins even though they were the foolish ones.
The elect are the prudent ones that are ready to go as filled believers whereas, the saved but yet denying themselves as always filled believers since they were saved are out at the market seeking to be filled when the Bridegroom had come.
If your only proof that they were unsaved believers because Jesus knew them not; then explain 2 Timothy 2:12-13 where Jesus still abides even in those that deny Him. ( Course, they are still denied, but that is what they get for not being ready to go when they are out to the market seeking to be filled with that oil where there is no end to be ready by.
A person is either saved or not. If the foolish Bridesmaids were saved they would have gone to the wedding feast and the
bridegroom would have known them. If you had bothered to read my post properly you might have re read the parable of the sower as well. The sower sows seeds the people who receive it react in certain ways. Only a few go on in the Lord and produce fruit.
There is a big difference between waiting for the Lords return and being obsessed with it. You make a big assumption about me at the end of your post. Just because I dont happen to believe in delusions about it doesnt make me any less
enthusiastic about it than anyone else.
bridegroom would have known them. If you had bothered to read my post properly you might have re read the parable of the sower as well. The sower sows seeds the people who receive it react in certain ways. Only a few go on in the Lord and produce fruit.
There is a big difference between waiting for the Lords return and being obsessed with it. You make a big assumption about me at the end of your post. Just because I dont happen to believe in delusions about it doesnt make me any less
enthusiastic about it than anyone else.
Not necessarily. In both Matthew 7:21-23 & Luke 13:24-30, Jesus denied them because they were workers of iniquity, even though they had professed Him and did works in His name. More scripture confirms this;
Titus 1:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.[SUP]16 [/SUP]They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]12 [/SUP]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:[SUP]13 [/SUP]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
So it is possible for a saved believer to deny Him and wind up being denied by Him, and yet even though they believe not any more in Him, He still abides in them although they have been left behind from the Marriage Supper.
This is what differentiates the vessels unto dishonor from the vessels unto honor; as the vessels unto dishonor are those that DID NOT DEPART from iniquity wherein is the reason why Jesus would deny them attendance to the supper.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
So saved believers can be left behind at the pre tribulational rapture event as they become vessels unto dishonor in His House for not trusting Him as their Good Shepherd to help them discern good & evil by the King James Bible so as to expose the works of iniquity by Him to see the need for His help to depart from that iniquity.
So I see the foolish virgins as those that seek a filling of the Holy Spirit as separate from their salvation just as those that preach another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues just as those that seek a continual supernatural filling of the Holy Spirit after a sensational sign in the flesh as those out to the market seeking to be filled & thus denying Him as filled by faith in Jesus Christ as promised at their salvation.
They are filled as promised at their salvation for why they were waiting for the Bridegroom, but because they denied Him as being filled, they were out to the market and thus not ready to meet the Bridegroom when He had come for the marriage.
The elect, Christ the firstfruits, are received while the foolish left behind will be among they that be Christ's at His coming.
Titus 1:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.[SUP]16 [/SUP]They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]12 [/SUP]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:[SUP]13 [/SUP]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
So it is possible for a saved believer to deny Him and wind up being denied by Him, and yet even though they believe not any more in Him, He still abides in them although they have been left behind from the Marriage Supper.
This is what differentiates the vessels unto dishonor from the vessels unto honor; as the vessels unto dishonor are those that DID NOT DEPART from iniquity wherein is the reason why Jesus would deny them attendance to the supper.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
So saved believers can be left behind at the pre tribulational rapture event as they become vessels unto dishonor in His House for not trusting Him as their Good Shepherd to help them discern good & evil by the King James Bible so as to expose the works of iniquity by Him to see the need for His help to depart from that iniquity.
So I see the foolish virgins as those that seek a filling of the Holy Spirit as separate from their salvation just as those that preach another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues just as those that seek a continual supernatural filling of the Holy Spirit after a sensational sign in the flesh as those out to the market seeking to be filled & thus denying Him as filled by faith in Jesus Christ as promised at their salvation.
They are filled as promised at their salvation for why they were waiting for the Bridegroom, but because they denied Him as being filled, they were out to the market and thus not ready to meet the Bridegroom when He had come for the marriage.
The elect, Christ the firstfruits, are received while the foolish left behind will be among they that be Christ's at His coming.