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YOU go read my bible
i dont take orders from women
i dont take orders from women
Not that I can make you do anything, but the basic message "if people don't know how much you love them,they won't realize your words are jokes."
If you had said it to me, I would have said "no thanks,my version of the Bible is more right..,you wanna know why?
Cuz it's mine of course!"
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I don't agree it's a reach.
You see I agree that Adam wasn't deceived but he sinned anyway. That is called willful sin. We still get chastened by God for willful sin.
While Eve sinned out of ignorance and because Satan deceived her into wanting to become godlike. Adam did it because he loved Eve more than God.
Both of them commited sins people today still make.
Some people try and BE GOD to their spouse, which the host in the video seems to be imply men should do with the whole "get the he'll out of her" comment. I believe he is wrong. That it is God's place to change hearts. A husband can show his disapproval of his wife's actions, or his concern for her sanity but sometimes it's best for them to say nothing verbally and let God deal with it. Dissapproval can be shown nonverbally by refusing to look at the person, storming out of the room, not returning a hug or kiss, silent treatment, etc.
I believe the "curse " of making women learn to submit to their husbands Was focused on getting rid of the spiritual stronghold of wanting to be goddess in their lives instead of listening to God and their husbands.
I guess we can talk about what does it mean to submit and what it doesn't mean later. Gonna finish reading the thread,
You see I agree that Adam wasn't deceived but he sinned anyway. That is called willful sin. We still get chastened by God for willful sin.
While Eve sinned out of ignorance and because Satan deceived her into wanting to become godlike. Adam did it because he loved Eve more than God.
Both of them commited sins people today still make.
Some people try and BE GOD to their spouse, which the host in the video seems to be imply men should do with the whole "get the he'll out of her" comment. I believe he is wrong. That it is God's place to change hearts. A husband can show his disapproval of his wife's actions, or his concern for her sanity but sometimes it's best for them to say nothing verbally and let God deal with it. Dissapproval can be shown nonverbally by refusing to look at the person, storming out of the room, not returning a hug or kiss, silent treatment, etc.
I believe the "curse " of making women learn to submit to their husbands Was focused on getting rid of the spiritual stronghold of wanting to be goddess in their lives instead of listening to God and their husbands.
I guess we can talk about what does it mean to submit and what it doesn't mean later. Gonna finish reading the thread,
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I agree i like the fact she stresses that the Bible verses about marriage only work if the man is following Christ and loving his wife with that sacrificial love of Christ.
However, the underlying question is
"What if he doesn't love her that much, does she then get to disobey him and do whatever she wants?"
Truthfully, my husband does NOT love me much as Christ because he is a flawed human being and it's not possible to be as loving as God.
However he does love me with a sacrificial love.
Even if he didnt, even if he was a nonbeliever, I believe God calls wives to still to submit to their husband.
Do you know why?
Because slaves are told to submit and work as if they are working for God. Do you believe all of any slave masters would be godly people? Maybe a few, but when this was written the Romans were the slave masters and we know most were NOT Christians.
So what does it mean to submit?
I believe it's respecting the authority of another...brb
However, the underlying question is
"What if he doesn't love her that much, does she then get to disobey him and do whatever she wants?"
Truthfully, my husband does NOT love me much as Christ because he is a flawed human being and it's not possible to be as loving as God.
However he does love me with a sacrificial love.
Even if he didnt, even if he was a nonbeliever, I believe God calls wives to still to submit to their husband.
Do you know why?
Because slaves are told to submit and work as if they are working for God. Do you believe all of any slave masters would be godly people? Maybe a few, but when this was written the Romans were the slave masters and we know most were NOT Christians.
So what does it mean to submit?
I believe it's respecting the authority of another...brb
I think this is not what Scripture says.
Scripture says that Eve was deceived (as you say) not because she wanted to be like god, but because it did not happen after she did what satan said.
And where did you get that Adam knew perfectly what is going on and sinned because he loved Eve? Genesis says only "and she gave also to her husband and he ate too."
The rest is just a modern day romantic fantasy, imho
Scripture says that Eve was deceived (as you say) not because she wanted to be like god, but because it did not happen after she did what satan said.
And where did you get that Adam knew perfectly what is going on and sinned because he loved Eve? Genesis says only "and she gave also to her husband and he ate too."
The rest is just a modern day romantic fantasy, imho
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Sorry kid emergency. My son is going to,the Dragon boat race and my daughter have Science Olympiad competition today...crazyiness. Lol.
Had things to post but no time.
Key idea:
When we worship idols and think they will bless us, God takes away our blessings and comforts to show us WHO really gave them.
When we seek to be gods, God takes away His hedge of protection and allows us to be enslaved and have others rule over us.
When we seek God alone, we know His peace and joy even as we walk through the valley of the shadow of death we fear no evil.
So what do we as people chose today?
Will we be like Adam, Eve of Jesus?
Had things to post but no time.
Key idea:
When we worship idols and think they will bless us, God takes away our blessings and comforts to show us WHO really gave them.
When we seek to be gods, God takes away His hedge of protection and allows us to be enslaved and have others rule over us.
When we seek God alone, we know His peace and joy even as we walk through the valley of the shadow of death we fear no evil.
So what do we as people chose today?
Will we be like Adam, Eve of Jesus?
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I think this is not what Scripture says.
Scripture says that Eve was deceived (as you say) not because she wanted to be like god, but because it did not happen after she did what satan said.
And where did you get that Adam knew perfectly what is going on and sinned because he loved Eve? Genesis says only "and she gave also to her husband and he ate too."
The rest is just a modern day romantic fantasy, imho
Scripture says that Eve was deceived (as you say) not because she wanted to be like god, but because it did not happen after she did what satan said.
And where did you get that Adam knew perfectly what is going on and sinned because he loved Eve? Genesis says only "and she gave also to her husband and he ate too."
The rest is just a modern day romantic fantasy, imho
It says Adam was not deceived.
In the context - by satan's claim of being like God.
But yes, even though he was not deceived by Eve, it still does not say why he ate, maybe he was hungry, maybe he did not think about it, maybe he thought God will not punish them, maybe he just wanted to rebel against God etc... we simply do not know
But yes, even though he was not deceived by Eve, it still does not say why he ate, maybe he was hungry, maybe he did not think about it, maybe he thought God will not punish them, maybe he just wanted to rebel against God etc... we simply do not know
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In the context - by satan's claim of being like God.
But yes, even though he was not deceived by Eve, it still does not say why he ate, maybe he was hungry, maybe he did not think about it, maybe he thought God will not punish them, maybe he just wanted to rebel against God etc... we simply do not know
But yes, even though he was not deceived by Eve, it still does not say why he ate, maybe he was hungry, maybe he did not think about it, maybe he thought God will not punish them, maybe he just wanted to rebel against God etc... we simply do not know
We also know that idolatry is a sin.
I believe that God chastens us for the sin of idolatry by showing that the things we seek from our idols can't be found there and that blessings come from Him alone.
I drew the parallel because often Israel turned to idols and God chastened them by withholding His blessings and allowing their idols to give them what they sought. However, idols at best are just man made things of stone and wood...at worst are demonically influenced practices and beliefs.
Need to eat breakfast, brain is getting foggy, bbl.
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And now we know why we're really single
dont blame my poor jokes on you being single too
im single because i only ever seem to attract
princess complex
single moms
very sexual not Godly women
and its very easy for me to choose in these types of scenerios
even if i wanted to be single and a good woman got my attention
im sure id do a 180 and start praying on it
K
Im not single...
But I do get how you feel.It seems almost impossible to find the right person if you are old fashioned at all. And I would know,I traveled in churches for years and found no one. But I thought it was just me
Prayer is the best solution. God can still send that someone,it just may take a little longer.Dont give up.
J
Im not single...
But I do get how you feel.It seems almost impossible to find the right person if you are old fashioned at all. And I would know,I traveled in churches for years and found no one. But I thought it was just me Prayer is the best solution. God can still send that someone,it just may take a little longer.Dont give up.
But I do get how you feel.It seems almost impossible to find the right person if you are old fashioned at all. And I would know,I traveled in churches for years and found no one. But I thought it was just me
Prayer is the best solution. God can still send that someone,it just may take a little longer.Dont give up.i really am happy as i am maybe i wasnt the first couple years
but kinda feels like i have a gift.... i see soo many people so torn about their spouses and exes that still cause trouble
and i only gotta worry about my relationship with Jesus
the prospect of change is kinda scary to me
Im not single...
But I do get how you feel.It seems almost impossible to find the right person if you are old fashioned at all. And I would know,I traveled in churches for years and found no one. But I thought it was just me Prayer is the best solution. God can still send that someone,it just may take a little longer.Dont give up.
But I do get how you feel.It seems almost impossible to find the right person if you are old fashioned at all. And I would know,I traveled in churches for years and found no one. But I thought it was just me
Prayer is the best solution. God can still send that someone,it just may take a little longer.Dont give up.
K
thanks
i really am happy as i am maybe i wasnt the first couple years
but kinda feels like i have a gift.... i see soo many people so torn about their spouses and exes that still cause trouble
and i only gotta worry about my relationship with Jesus
the prospect of change is kinda scary to me
i really am happy as i am maybe i wasnt the first couple years
but kinda feels like i have a gift.... i see soo many people so torn about their spouses and exes that still cause trouble
and i only gotta worry about my relationship with Jesus
the prospect of change is kinda scary to me
Ive know people who have stayed single and gone into ministry,its much easier to be in ministry when single. I stopped ministry when I married because it was too hard to do both in my situation. Both has its benefits and I do think some people have a gift of singleness and they should be supported in their choices and not made to feel like they are lacking. God uses us each where we are.