Your "lady lurching and staggering" is not an example of a Jesus-style "ZAP" miracle. I have explained that to you repeatedly and at this point it is nothing less than dishonesty for you to feign "indignation" that I shot down your non-"Jesus-style" alleged "miracle".
I don't see how it would do any good to research miracles for you..
You wouldn't even
have to "research" anything if there were still ongoing apostle-style and Jesus-style miracles. There would be uproar throughout the world, at this point, 2000 years in. There would be world famous 'celebrity' healers that everyone knew of...and who would perform staggeringly spectacular healings and resurrections just as they did in those early days.
Bro, you are in the middle of the ultimate "emperor who wore no clothes" scenario. (Did DJ2 refer to that analogy?) This whole discussion is ridiculous. But...for the sake of 2 or 3 lurkers who may be here, I will forge bravely on (for a little while longer, at least).
I don't know much about Michael W. Smith's relationship with the Lord.
My experience in this thread is that you are utterly uninformed about the entire topic of "wolves in sheep's clothing"...and you tipped your hand when you tried to condescendingly lecture me and made the unintentionally hilarious remark that
"runic is the name for alphabets". You don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. But...you want to turn tables because you're getting frustrated about the actual topic at hand. The malice is apparent.
Your position, by the way, is completely unbiblical and counter-biblical. According to the Bible, there ARE hidden wolves...they ARE spectacularly deceptive...and they DO make an unprecedentedly huge appearance in the last days. If you don't like some of the people I have on my suspects list...howzabout YOU come up with some suspects? Name just one spectacularly concealed wolf who is nevertheless believed to be a genuine Christian leader by 99% of the Christian community. I'll be standing by. Meanwhile, there is now a dedicated thread on the subject. Knock yourself out.
We aren't talking about mythical beasts.
That's a dishonest dodge. I didn't claim we WERE discussing mythical beasts. It's simply an analogy. A tool for helping two parties come to a better understanding on the issue. But you don't
want a better understanding...particularly since this Unicorn analogy exposes your error.
You twist stuff. We are all supposed to be 'ready to give an answer for the hope...
Wait a minute - that's
YOUR twist - LOL! This is a very simple scripture, with a very simply message and a very simply application...and you utterly butcher the passage in your quest to dodge the application it has to your "tongues-speaking" claims.
Let me needlessly explain the obvious: When we have hope, that hope grows out of beliefs that we hold to. What are our beliefs? Well...they are the things we need to "give reason" for. Your writhing, wriggling evasion of this simple passage with its simple application...is dubious, to say the least.
To claim your "hope" isn't bolstered by the confirming miracles you claim to observe and participate in...is nonsensical.
So when someone like me asks you to give a reason for the hope and the attendant beliefs...all I get from you is reviling, rebuke and defamation. I'm supposedly headed towards the
"hottest hell"...I am an
"accuser of the brethren"...in other words, I am literally satanic. On and on you go.
You never answered my question as to whether you have had conversations in your adult life that ended up in fist fights or people calling you names? Does this happen to you, and if so, how often does it happen?
Yes, I usually have fistfights once or twice a week.
I could give you a contact through a PM
God never played hide-and-seek with miracles back during the days when they were happening. If you pulled aside a believer back then and asked him about evidence of miracles, he wouldn't say
"shhhh - I'll slip you a secret note after the Sunday service". Your "PM" proposal is nonsense and, in fact, yet more evidence of non-straightforwardness. The behavior of 'snipe hunting' pranksters.
Just put the evidence out in the open if there IS any evidence. And, of course, there isn't. There should be a huge array of the top healers on national TV every Sunday. Back in the days when there WERE miracles, they made a HUGE splash. It was a sensation. No "sensations" today.
evidence for healing and miracles that you don't bother to look up.
That is such a ridiculous statement as to be intentionally dishonest...your M.O. unfortunately, from my experience. I haven't "bothered" to look any of this up? Do I seem like a guy who doesn't spend much time on the Internet - LOL? Pure baloney. Intentional baloney.
I've seen plenty of videos that offer evidence worthy of further investigation
Jesus' miracles didn't require "further investigation" - LOL. We wouldn't even
need YouTube videos if this stuff was actually still going on. Each and every city in America would have at least one church where the "Spirit of God was working" (the way Pentecostals would describe it, I guess). I could drive across town and see for myself...which, BELIEVE ME, I would love to experience.
With this YouTube thing...I'm just trying to at least give you a
crack at producing something even REMOTELY interesting or credible...but the best you offered was an abysmal failure (the lurching lady) as far as Jesus-style miracles go. And now you're blaming
me for your disastrous YouTube offering! Wow.
I was born after the moon landings and accepted the offical story growing up. I saw one of those conspiracy theory videos about it. Most of the evidence was hard to follow and didn't really seem to make much of a case, but there were a few things. 'Facts' in this videos on YouTube could be false facts, not what really happened. But the fact that it was easier, cheaper, etc. to fake the moon landings than to actually do them, that there was a military motivation to do so is reason enough for me to keep an open mind to a conspiracy theory. It doesn't effect my daily life, so I have no real motivation to research the details of the missions.
What...in
THE world...are you aimlessly chit-chatting about? I am flabbergasted at how much effort you put into elaborate non-answers. You
completely dodged the point of my two analogies. I guess I can understand why. But...wow.
No, I'm saying that you shouldn't be so 'bold' about rejecting something
Fella, read this very slowly and carefully: There is...nothing to "reject".
I'm not rejecting anything. Good grief - this is both hilarious and sad. If I go on YouTube right now and type in "tongues speaking" (and/or a number of phrase variations)...what comes up is a horror show. Even you would be aghast, I suspect (or hope). If you want to categorize
that as "bold rejection"...yes, you nailed it.
But a Jesus-style miracle that was credible and verifiable? When did I reject that? That's another unfair and dishonest remark. That woman lurching and staggering and hobbling...was NOT a Jesus-style instantaneous miracle healing. Those are no longer going on. So I have reasonably surmised and concluded.
The problem is you are trying to limit what the Spirit will do
I'm not "limiting" anything. It's just that nothing is happening. The world is devoid of these miracles...as far as my billions of eyeballs can see. You claim you have video evidence but will now not let me know where to find them. Great. Thanks much.
I apologized because someone emailed me and told me that you had posted about coming out of the hospital for a certain condition that I had asked you about previously. I didn't know about your medical situation.
I have not the foggiest idea what you're talking about. I have no "condition". Who in the world would have PM'd you about my "condition"?
What a coincidence: I want to see
you repent. So,
now what?